October 2012 Weddings

Gaining a husband, and loosing my job :(

Back in October the company that I now work for called and offerend me a full-time position. I took it on the condition that I could have most of October off because I was getting married and taking a two week honeymoon. They said they would accomodate that. We also talked about this at the interview and during training. I have been very open with the ladies I work with (heavily female dominated industry) with how much time I will need off, and was told again and again and again that this would not be a problem. I submitted my time off for the wedding (six days for the actual wedding and 16 days for the honeymoon) it was ALL approved back in July.

Fastforward to yesterday, I get taken aside by the manager and told that the company will not give me the time off that had previously been approved. Everything is booked and paid for, there is no way that I am NOT getting on the plane to Cuba. Looking at it realistically there are only two days that I could work, and they would have to be AM shifts.

Here is the kicker, a girl that got married two months ago took off an entier month for her wedding and is now taking off another week to go on holidays. Another staff member was approved for a three week cruise, and just tonight a girl decided that she wants to go to the cabin for the long weekend and dumped her shift off on a girl that is no where near qualified to take that shift (there are from two entierly different departments)

If I want the time off work I have to resign, and then reapply for my job after I get home from my honeymoon, and there is no guarentee that I can have my job back.

The best part? I work in the freaking wedding industry!!! You think that they would be able to understand this!

Coles notes: my job refuses to give me the time off for the wedding, even though it was a condition of my taking the job and previously approved. My job sucks.

I'm so angry.

I need to vent.

Can I have a hug?

Re: Gaining a husband, and loosing my job :(

  • I would be furious, and am so sorry this happened to you. I can revoke time I have approved, but I never have and hope I never feel I have to. I am glad you are still gaining a husband.
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  • *hugs*

    That sucks!  I have no words of wisdom or advice for you, just sympathy :(
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  • Thats horrible. I didn't know companies could actually do that. I mean once its approved how can they just take it away. I am so sorry its happening to you.
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  • Oh my gosh, that is TERRIBLE!!  I can't believe they would do that to you!  Any idea what you will do?  I feel so bad that you have to deal with that stress.  

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  • After I got the news yesterday I went home and had a good cry about it. I went in today with my head held high. The manager acted like nothing ever happened. My ASM asked how I was doing later in the day, I gave her that "are you freaking kidding me look" and all she could keep saying is 'I'm so sorry I'm so sorry" so I put on my big girl panties and had an adult conversation in short tell her this whole thing is B.S and that I am ready to go to the labour board over it.

    She was kind agreed with most of what I said and said that she wants her and myself to approach the manager about it tomorrow. We will see how that goes, my manager is very jeckel/hyde.

    FI is beyond furious and ready to go down there himself (which would not help), and did not want me to go to work tomorrow, saying that we can get by just fine without my pay.

    I will see what happens tomorrow, I think that I am also going to start feeling out some other things.
  • *hugs* that is so horrible! I am glad that you are not backing down (even though you will have to resign)
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  • In Response to Re:Gaining a husband, and loosing my job ::[QUOTE]After I got the news yesterday I went home and had a good cry about it. I went in today with my head held high. The manager acted like nothing ever happened. My ASM asked how I was doing later in the day, I gave her that "are you freaking kidding me look" and all she could keep saying is 'I'm so sorry I'm so sorry" so I put on my big girl panties and had an adult conversation in short tell her this whole thing is B.S and that I am ready to go to the labour board over it.She was kind agreed with most of what I said and said that she wants her and myself to approach the manager about it tomorrow. We will see how that goes, my manager is very jeckel/hyde.FI is beyond furious and ready to go down there himself which would not help, and did not want me to go to work tomorrow, saying that we can get by just fine without my pay.I will see what happens tomorrow, I think that I am also going to start feeling out some other things. Posted by Poppy101212[/QUOTE]

    Update us after! That's horrible!

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  • Get a lawyer.  What they are doing is wrong.  Based on everything you have said I would file an unlawful termination.
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  • Make sure that you get everthing in writing.  If you have a converstation make sure you follow up with an emails so that you can print it up and have for your files if you need to defend your self in court or unemployment.   For example:  your manager tells you.  You are not allowed to go on vacation.  

    Your email back to her is .  Hi ...  I would like to make sure I am clear.  On date, month, year at around this time you told me i'm not allowed to  do xxx...  I am not understanding what change since x, x, x, etc. x... 

    You need to make sure you have everything in writing so that when you go to them and say WTF you have your back up and can speak from facts instead of just complling.  


    I am sorry this happened! Never a dull moment!  I hope the manager realizes that what they are doing is wrong.  Do you have an employee hand book?  Did they sign something a while back do you have it?
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  • I have an employee handbook, but there is nothing saying how much vacation time you can take, only that as full-time you MUST take two weeks (umm my honeymoon is two weeks, so we are really just fighting over five days)

    I have a print out of the dates I asked for with thee approved stamp beside all the requests.

    Thanks for the support ladies, I will make sure and updat tomorrow.
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    *HUG* Ditto on the getting everything in writing. I work in HR at a department store, and once we approve something, it's approved, even if something comes up and we're short somewhere, gave too many people time off, etc. What they are doing to you is not okay.

    However, since you're thinking of feeling other things out now, perhaps this is all about timing for you. Sometimes bad things happen for good reasons! I wish you the best of luck in this yucky situation!
  • Sorry, that sucks :(

    Unfortunately, there's nothing illegal about it. Companies don't even have to legally give you paid vacation time in the US.

    You have a few weeks. You could look for a completely different job during this time, and then just quit before your wedding and start the new job after you get back. I wouldn't want to work for a company that treated me like that.
  • Do not resign ! Your time was approved if they choose to let them lay you off. They approved your time your employer is in the wrong not you. Them asking you to resign for something that was previously approved is not legal they are trying to cover their ass by you resigning. 
  • I am so sorry this is happening to you. Update us when you speak with your manager next  -  hope he comes around and it was just a bad day! 
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  • Oh man!! That is so horrible.  I agree that they shouldn't be able to do that.

    I can't wait to hear what happens. *huggggs*
  • Well the conclusion to this is as good as I could have hoped for, but I'm overtyl annoyed.

    My ASM was really upse about the whole thing and spoke with the SM. Was I actually took off was two weeks for the hm with one day on either side. My SM asked me if I was willing to compromise and work 9-3 the day before I depart. I agreed. The Tuesday before the wedding (which is on a Friday) again I work 9-3. That is all, apparently that somehow magically fixed everything!!! Why bother putting me through this if that is all is takes! My SM can never admit that she is wrong so I am assuming that this is her solution appose to admitting.

    UGH!

    I am happy that is over, but still looking into other options for when I get home.
  • This isn't just a headache or a tough situation. What they are doing is a breach of contract!
    Technically, if they want you to resign and re-apply, which is ridiculous btw, that is against the law (but I can't remember what it is called). I work in a law firm and have heard of these types of situations before. You should definitely bring it to your labor board. Your employer is REQUIRED to give you that time off because it was party of your employee contract regardless if it was verbal or not. A verbal contract is still legally binding in court. You took that job on the condition that you would get that time off. If they don't give you said time off, they are in breach of the contract.

    It is not your fault, nor your problem. Stop dealing with your incompetant manager and go straight to the labor board.

    Good Luck hun!!

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