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WWYD- eloping and the ex husband

This might be long.  I'm usually long winded, so this probably won't be any different.  I will use paragraphs, proper spacing, and CN at the end.  So thanks if you make it through this.

As I've said, we're eloping on Friday.  We have plans, which pre-dated our plans to elope, to go visit Todd's family and friends in Connecticut this weekend.  New Year's Eve is my ex-husband's holiday this year, so our initial plans were to drop Johnny (my older son) off at his house on our way to CT.  When we decided to elope, we explained to Johnny that he could come with us to CT, but that we would be going out that night with friends so he would be spending NY Eve with Todd's parents.  We also offered him the option to keep his plans with his father that night and celebrate NY Eve with him, as planned.  Johnny decided that he'd like to still visit with his father that night.  So, it turns out that several hours after our ceremony, we'll be going to my ex husband's house.  Here comes my question.

Should I tell my ex husband before Friday that we'll be getting married that day?  We have a good enough relationship that I imagine is probably better than most exes.  We see each other every week, and we're all very friendly.  We've been divorced for five years now.  He has been through several bad relationships since the divorce, and has a habit of getting reminiscent and "why don't you love me anymore" when he is single.  Todd has always suspected that my ex still had feelings for me, and I have always done my best to assure him that this isn't the case.  Whether or not that was the right course of action remains to be seen, but it's what has felt right for me.  There is no threat of me developing feelings for my ex when he gets this way, and I understand it to be precisely what it is: When he is single and feeling vulnerable, the easiest thing to do is reconsider the past.  As I'm part of his past, he begins to reconsider me.  When he is happy, he sees things for what they are, and I know that he does not wish that we were still together.  I'm not sure that makes sense written out, but it makes sense in my head.   My gut is that my ex doesn't really have feelings for me, he just thinks he does when he is lonesome. 

So, with that being said, what should I do?  He and I were together from a young age, and I know him very well.  I feel like that news should be something that I deliver to him so that he has time to digest it.  I feel somewhat guilty when considering telling him of my plans before they occur, but not telling our families until after.  What do you think...am I over thinking this?  If I tell him ahead of time, am I doing a disservice to our families by letting him in on the secret but not telling them?  If I don't tell him ahead of time, am I possibly blindsiding the man and setting him up to be uncomfortable and embarrassed when we drop Johnny off on Friday? 

I keep trying to reverse the roles and think of how I would want him to deliver the news to me, were the tables turned.  The problem with that is, I have never had one of those "Oh no, why won't you come back to me!" moments.  Even though I believe his moments to be misguided, he has had like 10 of these since our divorce, the last of which was fairly recent.  I'm not sure I understand it from his perspective and therefore am not sure how to handle it.  WWYD?

CN- Eloping Friday, ex husband is kind of whiny and needy, not sure when to tell him the news. 

Re: WWYD- eloping and the ex husband

  • Does your ex know you're engaged?  If he does, then eloping won't be a huge bomb.  If he doesn't, well, you should probably give him a little advance notice.

  • kikibabykikibaby member
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    I feel like you should let him know ahead of time, just because I feel like it would be awkward to show up on his doorstep with Todd like "So, uh, we just got hitched!" 

    EDIT: Actually, since you're already engaged, maybe it's not a big deal...

    So, in conclusion, I have no advice.  Carry on and good luck.
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  • Oh, yea, he knows we're engaged.  Todd has lived with me for almost four years, and we've been engaged for 3 of them (we suck at planning a wedding).  He knows the wedding is coming, he just thinks it's coming in September.  It's not like a big surprise that I've moved on.  If the moving in and getting engaged didn't drive that point home, the having a child with another man should (hopefully) have done it.  But a few months ago we had to have one of our "No, really, we are never getting back together" talks, so it seems like we make a certain amount of progress, and then we lose it. 

    I guess my concern is just delivering the news as delicately as possible.  He doesn't hide his feelings well, and I don't want him to look visibly embarrassed/stunned/upset on Friday in front of Todd or Johnny.  I'm just not sure that it's appropriate of me to clue him in. 

    I may have already lost track of what my original question was :(
  • Will you be telling your families after you get married (but before you drop off your son)? Will your son tell him? How might be react if you tell him at the drop off? Could you tell him on the way (last minute, but enough time for him to digest before you get there)?
  • Are you telling your children ahead of time?

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  • edited December 2010
    If you tell him on Friday, do you think it is going to create other drama in the family, ie: with the kids' grandparents and all. If not, I don't think it would be a big deal to just tell them. If you think it is going to create trouble, I would wait until after you are back from eloping and tell them then after the holidays and everything has settled down a bit.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_wwyd-eloping-ex-husband?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:306a0473-8dad-451b-9df7-479a1397c2e4Post:87df4e69-fb7a-4b84-b79a-6cc562e40ba1">Re: WWYD- eloping and the ex husband</a>:
    [QUOTE]Will you be telling your families after you get married (but before you drop off your son)? Will your son tell him? How might be react if you tell him at the drop off? Could you tell him on the way (last minute, but enough time for him to digest before you get there)?
    Posted by megandjay[/QUOTE]

    We're going to be calling my family that day, after the ceremony.  We're going to see Todd's family, so we'll tell them when we get there.  Johnny will definitely tell him about it, so I wanted to head that off.  I don't know how he'll react.  He's in a good relationship now, so there's a good chance he won't react at all.  I just don't want him to react negatively in front of his son or Todd.  I feel like that would embarrass him, and I don't think he deserves to be embarrassed in front of his child or his ex wife's new husband.  He's a good guy, you know?  I suppose I could call him on the way to his house, that's not a bad idea. 
  • I would just send him an email heads up, tbh.  You don't have to tell him in person, and considering how whacky he is this might be best so you don't have to see his response, he gets to hide it and has time to consider things.
  • I would definitely tell him ahead of time. You don't want his child to break the news.

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  • If he knows you're engaged, I don't think you owe him any advance notice.  You can just tell him when you drop your son off - "so guess what?  we just eloped!  hooray!" and be on your merry way.  I don't see a need to treat him with kid gloves here.  If you do, then you're just giving credence to his weird feelings for you and I don't think you should cater to that.  He needs to grow up and move on.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_wwyd-eloping-ex-husband?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:306a0473-8dad-451b-9df7-479a1397c2e4Post:c28b25d6-b6b0-4214-a84e-fe4ac8916266">Re: WWYD- eloping and the ex husband</a>:
    [QUOTE]Heh, Mery, I get what you're saying.  I suck at the "keeping it a secret" part of eloping.  I think we had this decision finalized for 24 hours before I was like "hey, E, we're eloping!"  And come to think of it, the dogs are coming to CT with us, so Todd will probably stay in the car with them.  You have really good timing, Mery, because I was just about to start writing that email...I think I like this plan.  It's sensible. 
    Posted by The Mel and Todd Show[/QUOTE]

    If you really want to, you can text/call him when you're on your way over and tell him you have something important you need to say. He might be able to infer it from there if you're worried about it being too much of a shock. Although I agree that learning his engaged-ex-wife who has a child with her FI just eleoped shouldn't be a huge punch in the gut, right?
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  • I'm confused... does your son know? I really hope you told your son your plans so you can prepare him for it, never mind the ex... think about your son
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    [QUOTE]I'm confused... does your son know? I really hope you told your son your plans so you can prepare him for it, never mind the ex... think about your son
    Posted by LowerEastSiiide[/QUOTE]



    Yes, new person missing several weeks of backstory and therefore making snide assumptions, my son knows. He's our best man.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_wwyd-eloping-ex-husband?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:306a0473-8dad-451b-9df7-479a1397c2e4Post:d4f32897-6b64-4f48-8df8-5486324aca2f">Re: WWYD- eloping and the ex husband</a>:
    [QUOTE]I'm confused... does your son know? I really hope you told your son your plans so you can prepare him for it, never mind the ex... think about your son
    Posted by LowerEastSiiide[/QUOTE]
    Of course she's hiding it from her son!! Good parents always lie to their kids and put them in horribly trying situations.  Especially when said son is LIVING with the mom and her new FI.  Cause you know, it would never get talked about.  Ever. 








    Ever.








    Seriously.
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    [QUOTE]I'm confused... does your son know? I really hope you told your son your plans so you can prepare him for it, never mind the ex... think about your son
    Posted by LowerEastSiiide[/QUOTE]
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  • I think lowereastsiiiiide didn't really make any friends last time she was here.   
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  • I didn't read through all of the comments so if this is a repeat, sorry. You said that now the ex is in a relationship and that he's better when he's in one. So, it might be best to go with the whole secret of eloping and not tell him until after. I like the idea suggested by a PP to have your son go hin his room and your new hubby to stay in the car while you tell him in person.
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