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NWR: I just dont know how to feel about this (long...sorry)

So the other day, my dad came over to fill me and FI in on how much he will contribute to the wedding.  Things went great and I was so excited because he offered to take care of the entire reception and ceremony costs leaving FI and I with photography, entertainment, attire....all the other small stuff.  I was so happy especially since financially FI and I are having a tough time getting it together.

Well, dad calls me 2 days later and said he wanted to come and talk to FI and me about our savings plan for the wedding.  So dad came over and dropped a nuclear bomb on me.  He said he knows the struggles FI and I are having (because whenever my car payment is late my dad get the phone calls from the financial company) and he doesnt feel comfortable signing the contract until he knows we are financially set to take everything else on....understandable.  Well, he tells FI and I that he wants us to give up our 2 bedroom condo and move in with him to his 2 bedroom apartment in West Chester....WTF!!!!!!

Now, there are pros and cons to thsi situation but it came so outta nowhere and I am having trouble being ok with this, however FI is ready to pack his bags and go!  Some of the cons: its a 2 bedroom apartment half the size of where we live now.  FI has a 4 year old son we have every other weekend so he would have no more bedroom and would sleep in the same room as us.  His toys would also have to be kept to a minimum because space will be tight.  FI and I also have a 1 year old pitbull and a cat, my dad has a 2 year old yellow lab and a cat....repeat SMALL APARTMENT!!!  Its moving us further from our jobs, friends...everything we know.  FI and I worked so hard our first year together to be able to afford our condo and its absolutely my dream place (for now).  I feel like I've failed and I'm running home to have daddy fix my problems for me and that feeling makes me sick to my stomach.  I dont wanna leave MY home.

Some of the pros: Dad wuld cover all of the bills (including food).  We just need to maintain our cell phones and pay for cable since dad doesnt view it as a necessity (which is cake).  We would be able to basically eliminate ALL of our debt in about a year and save major bucks for the wedding.  After about 9 months, we could begin saving for a down payment on a house.  Dad has offered to act as a full time live-in babysitter when needed, which is often because of FI and my schedule (he's 2nd shift, I'd 3rd).  Finally, dad pretty much lives at our beach house in SIC during the summer so he wouldnt be there much.

So, after some serious thinking, FI and I decided it was really too good of an offer to give up but it's not sitting ok with me.  I've lived on my own for 2 years now with FI and I dont know how Im going to cope with having my dad around so much again.  It wont feel like home to me.  My dad just moved there when my parent split last year so I've only been there a handful of times since he moved in.  And every time I'm there, I feel like a visitor. I cant see how thats going to change.  I also cant imagine scaling back all of my belonging to throw into storage and living basically out of one bedroom again.  I could go on for days about all the reasons I'm upset but this really is giving FI and I a great opprotunity to have a stress free and financially stable start to our life together which is so important, especially these days.  Like I said, I am so apprecaitive and fortunate that my dad is offering this to us but I could still use some more words of encouragement to help me come to terms with everything I'm giving up for my dream start in life.  You ladies are great at supportive words.
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Re: NWR: I just dont know how to feel about this (long...sorry)

  • edited December 2011
    I am sorry you are going through this; I can imagine it would be a tough situation.

    Have you thought about asking your dad to move in with you, if that is the only way to make it work?  It sounds like to me that you need to sit down with everyone who is contributing to the wedding and iron out details.  It also sounds like you need to have a more in depth talk with your dad about life in general.  The whole point of a child getting older is having them move out and move on, and accepting that things might be difficult and the child might fall on their face a couple of times.

    Have you and FI sat down and talked about where you could cut back so you you aren't as financially struggling?  If you come up with a plan with FI, and then present it to your dad, that may be what he needs to hear.  It sounds to me, from what I read, that he wants to see you all be more on a plan and working towards something.  I may be wrong, since I don't know your full situation. 

    Also, if you do take the offer, have you thought about asking him if he would be willing to move into a bigger apartment, especially if you helped a little bit?  That may make it easier for you all. 

    I think you need to sit down and really discuss this with your father, to make sure this is what you all really want.
  • edited December 2011

    I can completely commiserate. I live with my dad. Granted, he's in a 4/5 bedroom house, but it's still a little weird. I'd love to be living with FI on our own, but with DD, it makes much more sense for me to stay with dad. Plus, I am able to build my savings back up after DD's dad blew through it all while we were together.

    Sacrifices usually do benefit you in the long run... and I'd say this is a pretty lucky sacrifice. I know you love your condo, but think of it this way. Currently, you're behind on bills. Wouldn't you love to own your own house? And be current on all bills? $80 for a storage bin, (which you can get in to at any given time...) plus cable, and cell phones... just think of how much you'll have saved!!

    PS- I have a couch in my storage bin... whenever I need time to myself, I drive over there and bring a book and sit for a little while. It's quite funny, actually.

    Your friends will always be there- and if he's in wc, you'll make new friends. College town... :) It's very much like Newark too, just a little more umm... yuppy. :)

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  • edited December 2011
    It's a sticky situation.  BUT... West Chester is a great area.  There's a lot of great restaurants, bars, etc there.  

    The main thing I think is to make sure that there are ground rules.  Your dad can't butt into your marriage.  And you need to start a plan for the future.  Start putting stuff in savings so that you can get your own place, and not be struggling. 

    If you really are struggling... it's not the worst idea.  It's not ideal... but you don't want to get yourself into big trouble before you even start your life together.
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  • kmd0501kmd0501 member
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    edited December 2011
    At this point, FI and I have made cuts every possible area we can but his son is starting catholic school in the fall and all of our extra money has to go toward his tuition (and that is not something that can be negotiated).  We have tried for over 6 months to catch ourselves up from the debt we acquired while FI was in school and its just getting worse.  I know this is the only thing we can possibly do to get ourselves in a good place.  And I am so fortunate to have this opprotunity as I know many people dont  get chances like this. 

    I know all about west chester, thats where I went to school...and I absolutely hate it.  So much traffic, terrible roads...I'm used to basically growing up with nothing around me and I cant stand WC but again, its just something else I nee dto sacrafice.

    Also, today I got a phone call from Villanova that I am being considered for early acceptnace into their 2012 express Nursing BSN program which is phenomenal, yet another reason I will need to save money and conserve expenses. Oh...and possibly change the date of my wedding but only by 1 week so it falls during spring break...but FI is ok with that.

    UGHHH!!!!  How come so many good things have to be happening for me right now but also have to get ruined with money!  I wish it could be like old times when people traded goats ans cats.  I have plenty of cats! lol  Its just so frustrating and stressful but its great to be able to share it with you girls!  Thanks for everything
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  • JayElleJayCeeJayElleJayCee member
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    edited December 2011
    This happened to DH and I last year sort of. We had an apartment in Bear that I loved. His grandfather came to visit one day and being the snob that he is, he thought we were living in a horrible area and we were in so much trouble and he just had to rescue us. He made an offer we couldn't refuse which was $200.00 a month to live with him. We would get the entire house and would only have to share the kitchen (Grandfathers has a suite on the other side of house). So we decided we couldn't pass up on the offer and moved in with our 3 cats.

    As soon as we moved in and he got his bills for the next month and decided since the bills went up so much that we had to give him more money. So our rent doubled to $400. He also constantly bothers us and walks around the house all day when we aren't home to pick out things that should be done and attack us when we get home with it. Granted he is 87 and has been on his own for 10 years so I try to be understanding that he is set in his ways but we have had a few major blowouts over the past year!!!  

    This past month, he upped our rent again to $500.00 because the cost of oil has gone up. The nagging has calmed down since my recent explosion (hey, i'm pregnant and hormonal) but he still does it. Oh - and he tells everyone he knows how he rescued us from "the horrible place" we were living in. It makes me sick to my stomach sometimes.

    Bottom line - We are hanging in there because it's still cheaper and it's helping us pay off our debt. We also plan to own the house someday... However, the stress of living with someone who is older than you and a parent in some way can be stressful. You just have to be very tough at times and find a happy place when you need it. You don't want to start your new life in debt up to your ears.

    In your situation since you own a condo and he rents an apartment, it would be easier for him to move than for you to sell right now. Why don't you suggest instead of him or you moving that he helps with some of the bills you have since his bills will go up anyway when you move in to his place! Or maybe he can request a bigger apartment? It really sucks how money controls everything in life. If I wasn't scared of health care in foreign countries then I would move my lil family to Costa Rica and live in a shack near the beach. Get a laid back job serving drinks on the sand and surf my life away :D Oh to dream...
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  • kmd0501kmd0501 member
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    edited December 2011
    no we dont own the condo, we rent too.  Its just that my dad doesnt want to leave his apartment to go someplace bigger, just to have us move out in a year or so and have to move back to a smaller space.  And my dad cant live in delaware because it causes too much trouble in switching his gun permits, nursing and paramedic credentials and licenses...he has to stay in PA.  I had mentione to him looking for a bigger place but when I thought about it, its too much work and my dad doesnt want to leave him apartment and its not fair that I should ask him to either.  Its just going to be a very tight space for awhile.

    I just have a feeling this will ruin my relationship with my dad.  My younger sister lives with him now and has since my parents divorce and said he is a totally different person (aka-he's an asshole).  She is moving out with her boyfriend because she cannot tolerate being around my dad anymore and his terrible outlook and attitude anymore.  Thats why there is a sudden vacancy for us to move in.  I mean, I have had my sister coming to my house the past year in tears because of how mean and cold hearted my dad has become and they barely even speak anymore.  And I'm just so afraid this will destroy mine and dads relationship.

    I dont think my dad will understand that I have lived on my own for 2 years now and do things my own way.  Alot of things are different than the way i did them growin up.  I'm hoping he just suprises me and lets us live our life but that is very wishful thinking.  The only thing we can do is wait and see....
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  • JayElleJayCeeJayElleJayCee member
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    edited December 2011
    Yeah that's a toughy.... Sadly you are right, you wont know until you get there. You just have to decide what you think is the right thing for you and hope for the best. It's a good time with summer coming since you say he wont be there much... If it doesn't work out then you could always move.. even though it is such a PITA!!! My husband and I have almost moved out twice but decided the money is more important. We just lean on each other for support in the hard times. As long as you can laugh about it with each other (or cry)  lol then you can get through it.  Have you thought of having your sister and her boyfriend move in with you and maybe you could split the bills? I'm sure you have... well. Whatever happens... Good Luck! Just remember, everything happens when it should... and everything turns out the way it's meant to be. It sounds corny but I have never believed in something so much.
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