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So annoyed with caterer! Sorry, need to vent.

Next October I will be a Barclay Villa bride and I couldn't be happier about it. The place is so pretty and Danielle is the sweetest woman I've ever worked with. If you didn't know, Barclay Villa used to require all of their events be catered by Barclay Catering, which a separate entity but they worked together for something like 20 years (I think it's a family thing but I'm not sure). Anyway recently Barclay changed their policy requiring everyone use Barclay Catering and now they're just strongly recommended. I'm getting to the venting, I swear!

 

Well, we booked Barclay Villa and met with Cathy, the owner of Barclay Catering, but I wanted to check out other caterers. My goal is to find the best caterer at the best price since I have options (duh, right?). So in a nut shell, Barclay Catering doesn't do tastings, they just don't. I could understand that when it was a given that brides who book the venue would have to book them as the caterer but that's not the case anymore. So I sent an email questioning how they could expect to win over perspective clients without letting them taste the food. I also said that I was glad for the choice to check out other options (because I believe that a competitive market is best). The email I sent was literally 3 sentences and I am in total shock by the reply.

 

The reply came from the owner herself and she completely took everything personal. She went on about how their quality of food is outstanding and their prices are very competitive and how everyone just loves their food. Now I'd just like to point out that I never said they had bad food, in fact everyone I talked to said they have amazing food. My point was that I've never tasted it....that was all! And she said that almost all of her business comes from past clients, word of mouth and internet reviews. This is why they don't need to do tastings, cuz everyone already knows they're good. But I still want to know what does that have to do with me, someone who's never heard of them? I appreciate the reviews I've read but I still need to see some things for myself!

 

And then she goes on to say how well they treat their couples and how once they sign a contract they are treated to tasting events (she called them gala's) and are taken care of at every turn. Ok.....STILL has nothing to do with my original comment of how they work with prospective clients.

 

So FINALLY, after all that she finishes her email with something to the effect of, oh by the way, I just noticed that we're already booked on your wedding date.

 

How insane is that? I mean she already took a whole page defending her business (which I never said a bad thing about) and telling me off over what she construed as a direct insult even though it wasn't (seriously, it wasn't at all) and then she has the nerve to tell me she's booked! Like I really want to work with someone who flies off the handle over 3 sentences! People expect brides to go all bridezilla, not the vendors!!!   


  

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Re: So annoyed with caterer! Sorry, need to vent.

  • pirategal03pirategal03 member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_north-carolina_annoyed-caterer-sorry-need-vent?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:115Discussion:42ccd678-b1fb-4b66-ad63-ca55d6e25c6dPost:05c871fc-4890-4f82-ad6b-901cff48f7ee">So annoyed with caterer! Sorry, need to vent.</a>:
    [QUOTE]Next October I will be a Barclay Villa bride and I couldn't be happier about it. The place is so pretty and Danielle is the sweetest woman I've ever worked with. If you didn't know, Barclay Villa used to require all of their events be catered by Barclay Catering, which a separate entity but they worked together for something like 20 years (I think it's a family thing but I'm not sure). Anyway recently Barclay changed their policy requiring everyone use Barclay Catering and now they're just strongly recommended. I'm getting to the venting, I swear!   Well, we booked Barclay Villa and met with Cathy, the owner of Barclay Catering, but I wanted to check out other caterers. My goal is to find the best caterer at the best price since I have options (duh, right?). So in a nut shell, Barclay Catering doesn't do tastings, they just don't. I could understand that when it was a given that brides who book the venue would have to book them as the caterer but that's not the case anymore. <strong>So I sent an email questioning how they could expect to win over perspective clients without letting them taste the food.</strong> <strong>I also said that I was glad for the choice to check out other options (because I believe that a competitive market is best). </strong>The email I sent was literally 3 sentences and I am in total shock by the reply.   The reply came from the owner herself and she completely took everything personal. She went on about how their quality of food is outstanding and their prices are very competitive and how everyone just loves their food. Now I'd just like to point out that I never said they had bad food, in fact everyone I talked to said they have amazing food. My point was that I've never tasted it....that was all! And she said that almost all of her business comes from past clients, word of mouth and internet reviews. This is why they don't need to do tastings, cuz everyone already knows they're good. But I still want to know what does that have to do with me, someone who's never heard of them? I appreciate the reviews I've read but I still need to see some things for myself!   And then she goes on to say how well they treat their couples and how once they sign a contract they are treated to tasting events (she called them gala's) and are taken care of at every turn. Ok.....STILL has nothing to do with my original comment of how they work with prospective clients.   So FINALLY, after all that she finishes her email with something to the effect of, oh by the way, I just noticed that we're already booked on your wedding date.   How insane is that? I mean she already took a whole page defending her business (which I never said a bad thing about) and telling me off over what she construed as a direct insult even though it wasn't (seriously, it wasn't at all) and then she has the nerve to tell me she's booked! Like I really want to work with someone who flies off the handle over 3 sentences! People expect brides to go all bridezilla, not the vendors!!!        
    Posted by Astrid821[/QUOTE]

    You sent an e-mail to the owner of a catering company attacking their business practices and expressing your relief that you weren't being forced to use them and you're surprised the owner took it personally?
  • edited December 2011

     

    Ok, maybe I didn't give enough information but I didn't want to make it too long. My email was in response to receiving an email invite to a tasting and then when I replied to that saying we would love to go I was told that we were actually not invited and that it was only for contracted couples.

      I literally said "I see. However, I don't understand why you aren't interested in doing tastings for brides who haven't chosen a caterer yet. I know you folks are used to brides being required to use your catering services but since Barclay Villa allows outside caterers I need to make sure that we like their prices, policies and food before signing a contract with any caterer."   Really, truly I never meant to attack her company in any way. I just really thought it was rude that we were invited to this tasting (accidently or not) and that even after expressing interest we are told that they never do tastings for prospective clients.   And also, my emails were with someone who works there, I never sent an email to the owner.

     

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  • meredithl618meredithl618 member
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    edited December 2011
    I think they sound pretty crazy too, definitely not friendly. At least you figured out that you don't want to work with them now and not after booking. Good luck finding your caterer.
  • Beth0882Beth0882 member
    500 Comments
    edited December 2011
    I get you -- Even if she had taken something personally as an owner, she should have sucked it up, said "I am sorry to inform you we are booked on your event date, we hope to work with you in the future" and moved on.  That would have been good customer service.  There was no need to even respond to the other stuff on her part. 

    I get emails all the time where I want to respond to (perceived or actual) rude things people say, and the best practice is usually to ignore most of it (even though I compose nice long ranty emails in my head) because it would just draw the other person into an email battle that is unnecessary.  Even if she thought you were attacking her business practices, she had no reason to respond if she wasn't actually going to be doing business with you since she was booked that day -- she certainly would have avoided you being annoyed enough to post a review about her on a popular website!!
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  • uneek1323uneek1323 member
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    edited December 2011
    I don't have many nice things to say about Barclay Villa.
    The nice things I have to say are:
    Danielle and Theresa are awesome.
    The building and grounds are gorgeous.

    And.... that's it.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_north-carolina_annoyed-caterer-sorry-need-vent?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:115Discussion:42ccd678-b1fb-4b66-ad63-ca55d6e25c6dPost:9cf8e84d-b372-440b-b60c-5af069583e51">Re: So annoyed with caterer! Sorry, need to vent.</a>:
    [QUOTE]I don't have many nice things to say about Barclay Villa. The nice things I have to say are: Danielle and Theresa are awesome. The building and grounds are gorgeous. And.... that's it.
    Posted by uneek1323[/QUOTE]

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    </div><div>OMG, seriously? I've been told by a few other caterers that I'm not the first bride Barclay Catering has acted this way torward... I'm sending you a PM.</div>
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  • edited December 2011
    A friend of mine told me she ran into this sort of issue (not wanting to do tastings) with a few caterers in the area.  I was really surprised by that.  How are you supposed to know you even like the food without trying some of it first?
  • MyUserName1MyUserName1 member
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    edited December 2011
    I had a venue (Magnolia Manor) refuse to do a tasting too!

    They are a full service wedding site!  Why on earth would I pay you 14 THOUSAND dollars for my wedding if you won't let me TASTE your food. 

    I was shocked.  I mean, charge for the tasting if you need to, thats fine, but I'm not going to just trust your word that your food is awesome.

    Crazy pants.
  • edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/local-wedding-boards_north-carolina_annoyed-caterer-sorry-need-vent?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Local%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:115Discussion:42ccd678-b1fb-4b66-ad63-ca55d6e25c6dPost:b415a823-6953-4690-82d8-9a5e6ee97b63">Re: So annoyed with caterer! Sorry, need to vent.</a>:
    [QUOTE]I had a venue (Magnolia Manor) refuse to do a tasting too! They are a full service wedding site!  Why on earth would I pay you 14 THOUSAND dollars for my wedding if you won't let me TASTE your food.  I was shocked.  I mean, charge for the tasting if you need to, thats fine, but I'm not going to just trust your word that your food is awesome. Crazy pants.
    Posted by MyUserName1[/QUOTE]

    <div>
    </div><div><p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:#1f1f1f;">Exactly! It's not like you're asking to taste</span> the food before you walk into a restaurant, you're pre-ordering meals for at least 50 people... I think that warrants some firsthand confirmation that it's to your tastes. And Barclay Catering <strong>does</strong> tastings, just not for potential clients! If you're insistent upon sticking to that rule then at least it'd be nice to give prospective clients the option to pay to attend a tasting. If you're holding a tasting event anyway, what's the harm in that? </span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:#1f1f1f;"> </span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:#1f1f1f;">Obviously my comment caught this owner on a bad day and instead of seeing it for what it was, someone not understand why they were holding tasting events but not for potential clients, she convinced herself it was a personal attack and went on the defensive. </span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:#1f1f1f;"> </span></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal"><span class="apple-style-span"><span style="font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:#1f1f1f;">However from what I've heard after sharing my encounter, that's wasn't the only "bad day" she's had lately... <span> </span></span></span></p></div>
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