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Major crisis...feedback needed!

Ok here goes....
We have bee together for 8 years and just got engaged 4 months ago. Days after getting engaged, a couple snarky ladies decided to spill the beans that he had an brief affair with the friend of his co-worker 2 years ago. VERY out of character for him & it was a crushing blow to me & to him b/c he felt like nothing. He told me that a few times following the affair, he almost packed a trash bag of clothes and left b/c I deserved better.
When that all comes out...we decide to press on, work it out b/c we love each other and he said he would do anything for a new start. He went to his Dr to see if he could get help for the anxiety/depression symptoms he was having. He got meds.Just about 3 weeks ago he made a counseling appt for himself. All of these things he did on his own and I was very proud of him. We had been having great conversations about moving forward. learning about each other's needs more, making wedding plans, he's asking me when he should take days off this summer, he'd planned on working a bit with me at my summer camp, going to many things together, HE continued to say things about wedding and babies like we always do etc....
We continued to have sex, even improving spontenaity and so on. He never showed me signs of pulling away but he did have some ups and down emotionally that were uncharacterisitic. He drinks w the meds and he's not supposed to. I think the meds make his depression worse, which can be a side affect. Loooong story short, after 4 months of more ups than downs, I come home and he is very down Sat afternoon. Says he is tired and had a long day. I leave and come back from an errand and he is now at a friend's house "having a beer". Fine - no problem there. THEN he comes home and I say again "are you ok?" he says "no, I'm not ok. I can't do this anymore. I just don't feel anything...."  He says "I love everything about you. it's not you. It's just not there..we havent been connecting for awhile now ..." . There was NO incling of that at all & WHY did he ask mwe to marry him 4 mos ago then???? I am worried he is depressed and can't get over the guilt and thinks leaving is going to clean his slate and rid him of guilt.
I was horrified and shocked but was calm while crying. Asked why and said I was confused several times w/ no real answer except what he said before. He packed some clothes and went to a friends, we were both crying, we hugged and cried the whole works. This is the 4th day he's been gone and he has barely spoken to me at all. No calls, only a few breif responses to texts. I have backed off, just making it clear that I am here for him. love him and am ready to listen if he needs me. BUT at this point I am fuming inside. I do not deserve to all of a sudden be ignored like 8 years haven't existed...but I am trying to let him work it out in his own head. HELP?! :(
Jen Small

Re: Major crisis...feedback needed!

  • edited December 2011
    I forgot to say that our wedding was supposed to be next June, so we felt we had time to work on this prior to invitations and getting plans in stone.
    Also, he came to get more clothes 2 days ago and without telling me, took my ring. I called in tears asking why. He said he gave it to me and he took it back and was seeing if he was going to give it back to me or not. I expressed my disappointment that he did not speak to me about it and let it be a mutual decision. He apologized. He is not a sneaky, decietful person. I just have no idea what os going through his head right now and he's just not communicating with me. It is hard for him to express himself when the going gets tough so I know he is frustrated.
    Jen Small
  • edited December 2011
    Oh Jen, I am so sorry!  Very, very sorry.  Sometimes two people can love each other very much but things do not work out.  I had this happen to a very close friend.  They had been together 10 years, got married, and were divorced within two years.   They were very sad and heartbroken, as were all of us.  They tried couples counseling and a lot of things came to the surface.  At the end of the day, they agreed that while they loved each other very much, they knew deep down they were not the best fit for each other nor could they truly make the other person happy.  I commend them so much for having the courage to do that.  

    I hate to say this, but I'm wondering if your situation is like that a bit.  I cannot judge because I am not a part of the relationship nor have I experienced anything similar, although I do have some experience with heartbreak.  Someone I was with for five years and it was an awful breakup and my heart was broken.  BROKEN. And it hurts - physically sometimes.  It took a long time, but I healed.  And my FI now?  I am not sure I would fully appreciate him if I hadn't been hurt so bad.  My FI has been worth the wait and worth the heartbreak.  I never knew it could be like this - and this is how it should be.

    I think you're doing all you can by giving him his space.  My concern is that he has betrayed your trust multiple times, including cheating.  I know depression and anxiety are tough to deal with and I commend you for being willing to deal with his issues, but I think you need to believe him when he says he wants it to be over.  I don't think that's his depression.  I'm not a doctor so I could be wrong, but I think it hurts him a lot to make this break, and I think he means it.  Just remember that actions are what matter most - they speak louder than words - and that no matter what happens, you will be ok.

    Again, I'm so sorry this has happened to you and I sincerely hope you can find peace with however the situation is resolved.  Lots of love your way....
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  • H&S091711H&S091711 member
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    edited December 2011
    Jen I'm so sorry you are going through this, and I know how it feels because I have been there...so I hope this doesn't sound harsh...it was just my experience...

    When this happened to me I was crushed, and I knew that my ex was suffering with depression, it felt like he was running away from me because he loved me and he was scared. He told me I deserved better and that he loved me but somehow that wasn't enough. I really did cry for months on end.

    A good friend of mine told me that the most important thing we can do in such situations is listen to what the person is telling you. Most people don't tell people they love and want to be with that they deserve better. You have to respect that if they think that is true, it is true. One of the hardest things to do is to accept people as they are, not as we want them to be. Listen to his words, and his actions. He doens't want to be with you right now or else he would be. It's that simple. It's awful I know...

    Eventually I accepted the fact that no matter how much I loved him, and how much he might have once loved me or could love me again, for some reason (which I didn't have to understand or like to accept) he did not want to be in a relationship with me. Once I did that I was able to slowly start to heal.

    That was the last relationship I had. Then I met FI and everything is different. I never thought I would ever be able to love someone more than the person who walked away from me then but you never know what the future holds...I certainly didn't.

    I know this isn't what you want to hear. If you are anything like me you are clinging on to every little sign or word or thought you might have that he will be back and everything will be fine again. Sadly that is probably not the case.

    Take care of yourself, if you want to PM me feel free. I hope that you can accept things and get on with your life with or without him, just please try to see things as they are, not as you wish they were...if you can do that, you'll be ok I promise...

    Sending a huge hug xx



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  • edited December 2011
    Hugs, Jen.  

    I haven't been in a similar romantic relationship, but I have had a couple of close friends with depression.  It's really hard on a friendship, and maybe even harder when the person either isn't getting help or isn't getting adequate help (it sounds like your FI isn't doing well with his current treatment).  When that person acts totally out of character, it is so hard to get your relationship back to where it was.  With one of my friends, she lashed out at me and then blamed me entirely--I went to a therapist about what happened, but she would not do the same and would not admit to me that she was upset and things were bothering her outside of our friendship.  After that, I just felt I could not really trust her anymore.  I don't know if that rambling was helpful at all.  
  • edited December 2011
    Hi sweetie. I'm actually a therapist in the real world. I think there are some issues with trust and commitment, from the cheating in the past. However I would be concerned about the medication and drinking as well. Increase depression, anxiety and suicidal thoughts/actions can be a side affect and adding alcohol on top of that is a very bad mix. I'd recomend he'd go back to his doc. I'd recomend to you giving it time, and space. Could be his mental health, and he just needs some help, OR like previous posts have said, maybe you have love for eachother but cannot be together. I'm so sorry this has happened.
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  • edited December 2011
          All of these posts were very helpful....I totally realize the seriousness of this issue and I certainly would not want him to stay if he just can't. I am just so floored due to all the things we have been saying and doing together with not ONE hint he wanted to leave. I feel like I would have noticed something, due to my elevated emotional state from dealing with the infidelity issue for the last almost 4 months. He told me so many times that I was just amazing during the entire thing and that he was proud of us for moving forward and helping to meet each other's needs more.
          It was out in the open that he's struggling with feelings of numbness about life in general and severe guilt, but never once gave me a clue that he didn't want to continue moving forward. I mean, he did propose to me just 4 months ago...and every single bit of this is not him at all...my family is in shock, his family will be in shock when he tells them, it's just not like him in any way to behave so irrationally.
         I am going to speak with a counselor tomorrow just so I can hopefully begin a road to understanding myself and maybe a little bit of why this has happened. He said he was planning to speak with me this weekend, so we shall see if I am able to find any peace here... THANK-YOU! <3
    Jen Small
  • littlefieldmjlittlefieldmj member
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    edited December 2011
    I'm so sorry to hear about your heartbreak.  The PP have given excellent advice, and it sounds like your head is in the right place if you're seeking counseling as well to get through this tough time.  I hope you're able to come to a resolution quickly that improves your life.  Best of luck!!
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