Baptismal certificate...

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• Calypso1977 member

  

  February 2012

  i would think that's enough.
  
  my baptism cert. only had my baptism on it - i obtained the other sacraments elsewhere and could not provide proof.  however, my priest gave me communion on a regular basis so he pretty much figured id done that.  he accepted my verbal answer on whether id been confirmed.

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• agapecarrie member

  

  February 2012

  It is not obligatory documentation for first communion. Confirmation is often documented, but not always. The main purpose for a Catholic's baptismal certificate is for proof there wasn't a marriage, which should always be recorded.

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• professorscience member

  

  February 2012

  Yeah, H got confirmed in Austin because it was a special visit from the bishop, I think, so it never got recorded with his home church.  They just wrote it in and sent a note to the church where we got married.
  
  I remember it was a pain because we kept asking the church to update it, and they kept sending us a copy without the confirmation date.

  

  
  

  
  

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• caiti2u

  

  February 2012 edited February 2012

  In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_baptismal-certificate?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:615Discussion:f4ceb7b7-ef52-4f2e-8aa3-d7932e1475f6Post:a899e9e2-66fd-4ece-b33f-5beabd2c710d">Re: Baptismal certificate...</a>:
  [QUOTE]It is not obligatory documentation for first communion. Confirmation is often documented, but not always. The main purpose for a Catholic's baptismal certificate is for proof there wasn't a marriage, which should always be recorded.
  Posted by agapecarrie[/QUOTE]
  
  <div>Yeah, this is what my priest here told me. But if they're supposed to document if there was a marriage, shouldn't it be ok if they're nothing written there or does it absolutely have to say "no notations" or it be crossed out or something. </div><div>
  </div><div>I'm just frustrated b/c I've called the oregon church at least 3 times and they haven't been very nice/helpful about it. I seem to only get to talk to volunteers or secrataries that don't seem to really know what I'm talking about. I may just wait a couple more days and actually ask for the pastor directly to bypass the office ladies....</div><div>
  </div><div>Side note question to this, out of curiosity...would the church 'notate' a wedding that wasn't performed in the church? I'm thinking no, right?   </div>

  

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• agapecarrie member

  

  February 2012

  In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_baptismal-certificate?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:615Discussion:f4ceb7b7-ef52-4f2e-8aa3-d7932e1475f6Post:b9e6e44f-9641-458a-9a70-9312c39d1ff0">Re: Baptismal certificate...</a>:
  [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Baptismal certificate... : Yeah, this is what my priest here told me. But if they're supposed to document if there was a marriage, shouldn't it be ok if they're nothing written there or does it absolutely have to say "no notations" or it be crossed out or something.  I'm just frustrated b/c I've called the oregon church at least 3 times and they haven't been very nice/helpful about it. I seem to only get to talk to volunteers or secrataries that don't seem to really know what I'm talking about. I may just wait a couple more days and actually ask for the pastor directly to bypass the office ladies.... Side note question to this, out of curiosity...would the church 'notate' a wedding that wasn't performed in the church? I'm thinking no, right?   
  Posted by caiti2u[/QUOTE]
  
  There shouldn't be anything written. There would be no other notes (except sacraments).
  
  It's bizarre that they don't understand. Perhaps ask your church to call.
  
  If it was a marriage outside the church, there wouldnn't be any notation, as it wouldn't be a valid marriage.

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• caiti2u

  

  February 2012

  Thanks agape, that's what I thought. I figured since they're all catholic churchs they should know what i need, but maybe I'm just real bad at explaining to them what it is I'm looking for. guess I have some more calls to make...

  

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• ElisabethJoanne member

  

  February 2012

  FWIW, we had our first meeting with the Priest yesterday. (We're hoping for both a dispensation for mixed marriage and a dispensation from form.) I told him my baptismal certificate was misplaced, along with my birth certificate and Social Security card. [I went looking for the birth certificate first, and kept them together, and can't find any of them.] He said there were ways around it even if I never find it, and my former parish didn't keep its copy. We're getting married in November, and he seemed very relaxed about the timeline, even holding off on submitting our paperwork until April, when my future husband will be baptized. [Yes, I'm a bit worried about his lacadasical attitude, having heard how long dispensations can take, but my future husband keeps telling me both not to stress and not to bother his Priest, so...]

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• agapecarrie member

  

  February 2012

  Actually, an old baptismal certificate will not suffice, as it won't have current sacraments recorded.
  
  The official record of baptism at a parish is actually a Ledger or a card, not a certificate. When parishes send a baptismal certificate to other parishes for proof of sacraments, they actually issue a new certificate, dated currently (with the correct baptismal date), and any marriage that may have happened. This is why it must be done within 6 months before the wedding, to prove there hasn't been any marriages before hand.

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• ElisabethJoanne member

  

  February 2012

  Well, there's no record of my receiving the later sacraments.

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• memilie member

  

  February 2012 edited February 2012

  I converted when I was 21, and my step-father baptized me when I was 12, and that knowledge alone has thrown the deacon for a loop.  I explained it to the priest and produced a letter from my step father stating that he baptised me in water in the Trinitarian form and he was satisfied.  But the deacon keeps asking me about it, saying things like, "But why would he take it upon himself to do that?  Why didn't the pastor do it?  Why don't you have formal church documentation?"  etc.  I find it more amusing than anything else...I'm guessing he hasn't had much exposure to converts before. 

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