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Mother-In Law- HELP

I wanted to write a post to get the thoughts of other brides-to-be on this issue I find myself in.  There are deep rooted issues within this family so I'll do my best for a quick synopsis.   (Background we are both 25, Fiance is 1/2 way done school on the GI bill after the military and I work as a corporate paralegal)

My Fiance- D has always had a tense relationship with his mother who is very controlling.  She has been divorced 2x (over 20 years from D's father)  and is in a long term relationship.  She often tells everyone all the things she has to do in a day, how busy she is and how any plans others suggest often don't fit into what she must do.  She loves to shop- has every Longaberger basket ever created, always dresses lovely from Talbots and leases very nice cars.  

The issues of contention that relate to our wedding:
1. It is a Friday night which kicks of the Bike Race she is doing  and this is an issue for her.
2. She MIGHT consider taking 1/2 day of work off
3. We have tried to include her in planning by, for example- sending her proofs of invites for design concept purposes.  When I did this, she replied- Why aren't I listed on  the invite??? ( the invite had my parents inviting guests).  We kindly explained that it's just a proof and in fact, no ones going to be listed since we're paying for the wedding ourselves.  
4. She never asks how she can help ( either her time or her financially). 
5. We took her to dinner to share with her more details and request if she could help financially in any capacity.  She ignored all the 'ques' to contribute.  

MIL often has issues with other women in the workplace... I sometimes wonder if she is threatened by me? She totally doesn't seem to care about our wedding in any way which is really hurtful and sad.  More issues arose that would take a long time to explain- but it ended where she told D's brother many lies to support her stance that more of her family should be invited and NO ONE TELLS HER SHE SHOULDNT GO TO HER BIKE RACE.   Essentially, my finace made the decision that he won't invite her.  I'm both very angry at her becuase she isn't a very good mom to D, and to me.... and I'm very hurt - why does she hate me? why doesn't she support us? ...... Anyone have any support or expereice? 

Please no nasty comments on this. 

Re: Mother-In Law- HELP

  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_mother-in-law-help?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:64e3135c-dc5b-4b40-ba86-0cf3991c2a51Post:bb5a450f-f46f-4236-907a-63b0d70f2fa4">Mother-In Law- HELP</a>:
    [QUOTE]I wanted to write a post to get the thoughts of other brides-to-be on this issue I find myself in.  There are deep rooted issues within this family so I'll do my best for a quick synopsis.   (Background we are both 25, Fiance is 1/2 way done school on the GI bill after the military and I work as a corporate paralegal) My Fiance- D has always had a tense relationship with his mother who is very controlling.  She has been divorced 2x (over 20 years from D's father)  and is in a long term relationship.  She often tells everyone all the things she has to do in a day, how busy she is and how any plans others suggest often don't fit into what she must do.  She loves to shop- has every Longaberger basket ever created, always dresses lovely from Talbots and leases very nice cars.   The issues of contention that relate to our wedding: 1. It is a Friday night which kicks of the Bike Race she is doing  and this is an issue for her. 2. She MIGHT consider taking 1/2 day of work off 3. We have tried to include her in planning by, for example- sending her proofs of invites for design concept purposes.  When I did this, she replied- Why aren't I listed on  the invite??? ( the invite had my parents inviting guests).  We kindly explained that it's just a proof and in fact, no ones going to be listed since we're paying for the wedding ourselves.   4. She never asks how she can help ( either her time or her financially).  5. We took her to dinner to share with her more details and request if she could help financially in any capacity.  She ignored all the 'ques' to contribute.   MIL often has issues with other women in the workplace... I sometimes wonder if she is threatened by me? She totally doesn't seem to care about our wedding in any way which is really hurtful and sad.  More issues arose that would take a long time to explain- but it ended where she told D's brother many lies to support her stance that more of her family should be invited and NO ONE TELLS HER SHE SHOULDNT GO TO HER BIKE RACE.   Essentially, my finace made the decision that he won't invite her.  I'm both very angry at her becuase she isn't a very good mom to D, and to me.... and I'm very hurt - why does she hate me? why doesn't she support us? ...... Anyone have any support or expereice?  Please no nasty comments on this. 
    Posted by Lesleya34[/QUOTE]

    It sounds like she's just not that into you.

    Also, after the first time she ignored you asking her for money, you probably should have just left it alone (technically you shouldn't have asked her in the first place)
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  • I repeat...Much love! * ;)
    Anyone have any support or expereice? 

    Please no nasty comments on this. 

  • Honestly, there's nothing you can do except suck it up and be nice to her when you see her. Don't get involved in your husbands inviting her, not inviting her issues. Don't push him to not invite her. Let him figure that out on his own.

    And I agree, I think it's awkward you asked her for money.
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  • azdancer8azdancer8 member
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    edited May 2012
    Honestly, it sounds like your FI doesn't want to invite her, so don't invite her. If she's not supporting you (whether emotionally or financially), then stop asking her opinion on things or trying to please her.

    I'm sorry she doesn't have a good relationship with either of you, but that just happens sometimes. You can't change who she is. The only thing you can change are your expectations.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_mother-in-law-help?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:64e3135c-dc5b-4b40-ba86-0cf3991c2a51Post:9d59f1fb-893a-4e32-a639-d41a2bb66d6a">Re: Mother-In Law- HELP</a>:
    [QUOTE]Honestly, it sounds like your FI doesn't want to invite her, so don't invite her. If she's not supporting you (whether emotionally or financially), then stop asking her opinion on things or trying to please her. I'm sorry she doesn't have a good relationship with either of you, but that just happens sometimes. You can't change who she is. The only thing you can change are your expectations.
    Posted by azdancer8[/QUOTE]

    <div>Thanks Lady, I appreciate your thoughts.  I think you are correct.  Everyone else seems to focus that we were wrong to ask for support.  I think we were really disappointed and hurt and thought it doesn't hurt to ask since there was no offer..... she just really isn't  going to be a supportive person. :/ </div>
  • Uh. You should greedy. Who givesashit if she buys all the baskets in the world? It's her money- she can spend it how she wants.  She doesn't owe you anything, and to ask repeatedly for money was probably very off-putting.  By the way, it's 'cues' not 'ques' (whatever that is.)

    If she's your FI's mom, why didn't you check the date with her first, before deciding?
  • NebbNebb member
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    You cant tell people how to respond to this. I agree with Steph, you sound greedy. Just cause she spends money on herself doesnt obligate her to spend money on your wedding.
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    [QUOTE]Uh. You should greedy. Who givesashit if she buys all the baskets in the world? It's her money- she can spend it how she wants.  She doesn't owe you anything, and to ask repeatedly for money was probably very off-putting.  By the way, it's 'cues' not 'ques' (whatever that is.) If she's your FI's mom, why didn't you check the date with her first, before deciding?
    Posted by Steph+J[/QUOTE]
    Dude. Be nice. She said much love. 
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  • In Response to Re:MotherIn Law HELP:[QUOTE]In Response to Re: MotherIn Law HELP:Uh. You should greedy. Who givesashit if she buys all the baskets in the world? It's her money she can spend it how she wants. nbsp;She doesn't owe you anything, and to ask repeatedly for money was probably very offputting. nbsp;By the way, it's 'cues' not 'ques' whatever that is. If she's your FI's mom, why didn't you check the date with her first, before deciding?Posted by StephJDude. Be nice. She said much love.nbsp; Posted by LetsHikeToday[/QUOTE]


    STOP BEING A BULLY.

    quoting on my phone sucks. I'm going back to lurking while trailing behind H in this boring store.
  • ricksangricksang member
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    edited May 2012
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_mother-in-law-help?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:64e3135c-dc5b-4b40-ba86-0cf3991c2a51Post:bb5a450f-f46f-4236-907a-63b0d70f2fa4">Mother-In Law- HELP</a>:
    [QUOTE]I wanted to write a post to get the thoughts of other brides-to-be on this issue I find myself in.  There are deep rooted issues within this family so I'll do my best for a quick synopsis.   (Background we are both 25, Fiance is 1/2 way done school on the GI bill after the military and I work as a corporate paralegal) My Fiance- D has always had a tense relationship with his mother who is very controlling.  She has been divorced 2x (over 20 years from D's father)  and is in a long term relationship.  She often tells everyone all the things she has to do in a day, how busy she is and how any plans others suggest often don't fit into what she must do.  She loves to shop- has every Longaberger basket ever created, always dresses lovely from Talbots and leases very nice cars.   The issues of contention that relate to our wedding: 1. It is a Friday night which kicks of the Bike Race she is doing  and this is an issue for her. 2. She MIGHT consider taking 1/2 day of work off 3. We have tried to include her in planning by, for example- sending her proofs of invites for design concept purposes.  When I did this, she replied- Why aren't I listed on  the invite??? ( the invite had my parents inviting guests).  We kindly explained that it's just a proof and in fact, no ones going to be listed since we're paying for the wedding ourselves.   4. She never asks how she can help ( either her time or her financially).  5. We took her to dinner to share with her more details and request if she could help financially in any capacity.  She ignored all the 'ques' to contribute.   MIL often has issues with other women in the workplace... I sometimes wonder if she is threatened by me? She totally doesn't seem to care about our wedding in any way which is really hurtful and sad.  More issues arose that would take a long time to explain- but it ended where she told D's brother many lies to support her stance that more of her family should be invited and NO ONE TELLS HER SHE SHOULDNT GO TO HER BIKE RACE.   Essentially, my finace made the decision that he won't invite her.  I'm both very angry at her becuase she isn't a very good mom to D, and to me.... and I'm very hurt - why does she hate me? why doesn't she support us? ...... Anyone have any support or expereice?  Please no nasty comments on this. 
    Posted by Lesleya34[/QUOTE]

    Your mother in law does not have to contribute. I thought you were paying for the wedding, why are you hinting for money from her? I see where your going with the "she loves to shop" issue, she still doesn't owe you any type of finanical support for your wedding. If you are paying for the wedding she has zero say on extra guests if you can't afford them.

    I think it's shitty to not invite his mom to the wedding just because she won't give you any money for the wedding or won't put in any time to help you out. Some people just don't enjoy wedding planning.

    I don't know why your MIL hates you or if she even hates you as I don't know you personally.
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    [QUOTE]I repeat...Much love! * ;) Anyone have any support or expereice?  Please no nasty comments on this. 
    Posted by Lesleya34[/QUOTE]
    You won't get support here in regards to begging your MIL for money and so forth.

    Please no nasty comments automatically guarantees smartass comments, yep.
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  • What if you somehow incorporated the bike race into the wedding? Like have the altar at the finish line?

    Kidding. I don't think you're greedy, I think you were asking if she wanted to contribute and she said she didn't, which seems in lockstep with her other behavior about the wedding. It sucks when a MIL doesn't seem to approve, but at a certain point it really is best to ignore the whole situation. I do think not inviting her is a really extreme thing to do, however, and you and he may regret it down the line.
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  • MrsRalfMrsRalf member
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    I think you are on the wrong site. You will get nothing but nastiness from this hot-mess of a wedding planning website.
    Go to www.offbeatbride.com, you'll have a way better experience and actually get some support when you ask a question. Not bullying from miserable bitches.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_snarky-brides_mother-in-law-help?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:17Discussion:64e3135c-dc5b-4b40-ba86-0cf3991c2a51Post:9210c41a-f720-498c-98da-1664071d98e1">Re: Mother-In Law- HELP</a>:
    [QUOTE]I think you are on the wrong site. You will get nothing but nastiness from this hot-mess of a wedding planning website. Go to <a href="http://www.offbeatbride.com," rel="nofollow">www.offbeatbride.com,</a> you'll have a way better experience and actually get some support when you ask a question. Not bullying from miserable bitches.
    Posted by MrsRalf[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>Why are people nasty for giving honest advice and not blowing smoke up someones a$$ and telling them what they want to hear, even if its wrong?   

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  • McRogolMcRogol member
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    So, did u post this in "snarky brides" becuz u thought people would be supportive of not inviting your MIL? I don't understand why u didn't ask her about the date before putting down a deposit. That seems pretty inconsiderate, and perhaps you started this whole thing off on the wrong foot. Not inviting her to her son's wedding is fairly permanent and makes a big statement - equivalent to saying F You in my opinion. Since you're asking for opinions, I think you should think long and hard about the long term effects of not inviting her.
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  • As PP have hinted, it would be permanent damage not to invite his mother.  From what you have mentioned, she really doesn't sound that unfair in her behavior.  She doesn't want to contribute and she doesn't want to be that involved - there are worse issues to have. 

    The bike race is obviously very important to her, and she probably was hurt that you didn't consult her on the date because she wants to be at both places.   Is there a way to plan around the bike race - and to show her that she is important, too?  It sounds like you have left her out of everything, and then asked her to make a contribution.   How can you show her that you want her to be involved without asking for $$? 

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  • In Response to Mother-In Law- HELP:
    Let me just start by saying you cannot please her. It doesn't matter what you do, everything will be wrong in her eyes. If you say "go to the thing  you planned" you are wrong. If you say "don't go to the bike race" you are wrong. She sounds like a drama queen (just judging by what you have posted). As much as you want to include her, don't be surprised by any response she gives. Do your best to include her still. Just as you have done. Invite her to the wedding. If you have other pieces left of your wedding to plan and are looking for an "opinion" ask her. After you have done everything to include her.... if she ever comes back later and says "you didn't..." you can say I tried from the get go and you had none of it. And let it be. Don't be hateful. Spiteful etc. Just keep in mind that you are probably going to get nothing out of it but complaints. Just know that you tried.

    Best of luck!
  • So wait...asking our future in-laws if they intend to help out at all/can help out at all and keeping them included makes the OP a greedy biatch? Good to know most of us have paid for everything in your life, never asked your parents for a dime and never had to ask your parents anything about money for th wedding because ou were set./sarcasm OP, my future MIL is a B as well. No way around it. Controlling, horrible mother (objective, really), etc. we can complain the rest of our lives or deal. She'll be my family soon and your MIL will be yours. I get it and it sucks but....if I were you, I wold just try to keep her out of the loop a bit and just enjoy your big day with the future hubby.MIL will be MIL. You cannot change or help that. Breathe, relax and move past it.
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    [QUOTE]I think you are on the wrong site. You will get nothing but nastiness from this hot-mess of a wedding planning website. Go to <a href="http://www.offbeatbride.com," rel="nofollow">www.offbeatbride.com,</a> you'll have a way better experience and actually get some support when you ask a question. Not bullying from miserable bitches.
    Posted by MrsRalf[/QUOTE]

    I second this.  I am on the tribe for OBB and it is supportive and fun.  I have been just shocked at the bitchy answers on here.  Is this where all the harpies come to bag on people they don't know?
  • I think it's entirely appropriate for you to have asked her how, if at all, she wanted to participate in wedding plans.  I think the days of wedding planning being between the bride and the bride's mom only, are outdated.  I  know several moms-of-the-groom who have been more involved than the moms-of-the-bride.  I think it also goes a long way in how your relationship with your FMIL will go.  (Yours sounds less than ideal - Sorry!)

    I think you should still invite her.  Not inviting her could lead to even bigger issues down the road.  Inviting her puts the ball in her court.  She's a big girl and needs to decide what is most important to her - the race or her son's wedding. 
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