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Moving and a wedding...major decision help!

I'm sorry this is going to be long.

Fi and I have been planning on getting married in Oc 2013 and then a year later moving to Vancouver.  Our wedding is going to be as minimal and inexpensive as possible (we're talking about $2,500) while still being able to properly host our closest famly and friends (guest list of about 70-80).  Our fabulous network fo friends have already volunteered to do things to help us with this, plus we have connections through FI's work for deals on food/bev. I'll be DIYing anything I can to keep costs down.  No unnecessary frills, only what is absolutely necessary to have a ceremony, then host a good dinner and party for our guests afterwards.  While I think that the most important thing is saying our vows, for me, it is almost just as important to do so in front of the people that we care about and who care about us, and those who have been and will be a part of our life together.  Basically I would rather not have flowers than not have a seat available for someone we want to have there, if that explains my attitude towards the whole thing.  We don't make a lot of money, and are paying for all of it ourselves, so we have gone through our budget and set  up savings account for the wedding and savings in general, emergencies and such.  We put a certain amount into each every month so that we can pay off everything wedding related by september.  We also planned on only having a small registry so we wouldn't have a ton of stuff to move and then any money given could then be put towards moving.  The wedding savings account would then be turned into savings for the move after the wedding.  This would all allow us to afford everything and still have that extra savings cushion for unexpected expenses or future major purchases.

However, now FI has thrown a wrench into all these plans.  He now wants to move as soon as my current work contract is up, which is about 2 months before our planned wedding date.  His reasons are totally legit.  He feels like his career is stagnating here and it is becoming a major source of stress for him, which I completely understand and can see how much it is weighing on him.  He is ready to get out of this city and work elsewhere, plus we are both ready to live somewhere new and are both completely in love with Vancouver.  I don't even know that we will be able to get Visa's that soon, but aside from that potential problem moving across and out of the country is going to be a huge expense.  I'm not sure that we can afford to do it at around the same time as the wedding.  He thinks we should just skip having a wedding all together and elope or just do a courthouse wedding and small dinner with just parents and a couple friends.  I'm trying to get into the idea, but like I already said, it's so important to me to have everyone there, it is hard to just give that up. This isn't because I wan't to be a princess and have my "special" day.  It's just such a major life experience, I can't imagine it without all these people there with us.  I'll be thrilled to be married to him under any circumstance certainly, I would just be disappointed not to share the day with my friends whose weddings I've been a part of or will be a part of.  I don't want these feelings to overshadow FI's happiness or career goals but I do think there should be room for negotiation , especially since it isn't like I have an absurd or extravagant wedding plannned.  If we could just up and move right away I would totally do it, but that isn't realistic either. 

Plus, our famlies are putting pressure on us too; mine because I'd be the only one of my generation to NOT have a courthouse wedding where only parents are invited.  My parents and aunts and female cousins are all ridiculously excited about getting to have a "real" wedding in the family, I'd feel bad disappointing them.  FMIL and FI's step mom have also already told me that we aren't thinking big enough, so there's that : /

So it seems like our options are these-

1) Do as FI suggests, I suck it up and we forego the small (relative to most people I know) and simple wedding I want for a family only courthouse thing or elopement

2) We put off the wedding until a year or so after the move, so that we can put the savings toward the move first.  (It seems kind of silly to hold off a wedding for 2 years just so I can have the wedding I want, but at least it put's FI feelings first and the wedding second.  It would mean having to travel back for the wedding and planning it long distance)

3)Look over our budet and see if it is at all possible to have the wedding as scheduled, maybe a month or so earlier, and then move right after (given that we have visas and jobs in vancouver settled by then).  This may be do able, especially if we can find a compromise where we scale down the guest list of our wedding some, without going to the extreme that FI suggested.   This only concerns me in that we would have less cushion in our savings, as a lot of the non-wedding savings would be going to the move.  This would also mean planning for both at the same time, which could be very stressful.  Not sure how wise this is.

I know you will all be honest with me, am I being selfish in the way I'm looking at this?  I'm not trying to be, I just think there is room for compromise.  Which option would you choose? Any advice or alternative suggestions welcome!  This is all such a big, grown-up issue, I'm not sure what the best decision is.  Thanks for reading all this...sorry and thanks.



Re: Moving and a wedding...major decision help!

  • I would have the wedding a few months earlier.  If you really want a wedding like you are describing and don't you will regret it, just save and spend what you can afford.  You can have a nice cake and punch reception, or just add apps., for very little money.
  • Hi!

    What concerns me is that you mentioned a visa only once.  Are you a US citizen moving to Canada?  If that's the case, you need to seriously investigate the requirements of moving.  

    I am moving to England (from the US) in April.  Our wedding is October 16, 2013.   I am discovering that getting a visa is not a walk in the park.  In the first place, you have to fall into a certain catagory to get a visa (I am going under the "fiance visa").  Is that also true for Canada?  Can you just move there because you want to?  You can't move to England (or anywhere else in Europe) because you want to.  You have to have a job there and your employer must certify that only you can do the job as opposed to anyone else in the native labor force.  Or you have to be married or engaged to a native.  Is your FI a Canadian?  I didn't get that feeling reading your post.  

    Secondly, unless you pay an expidited processing fee, the visa usually takes at least a month to turn around.  Add in gathering all your documents (pay slips, employer letters, education documents, proof of your connection to Canada), then you have about six weeks AT LEAST.   I don't know how much visa fees are for Canada but for England they're $1300 and if you don't get the visa, too bad because you don't get a refund.   (The expidited processing fee, which I'm definitely paying, is $300).

    My feeling, based only on this post, is that moving to Canada is not a very well thought out idea.  You need to prioritize in order to get all the things you want.

    If moving is more important, I would definitely put off the wedding for at least a year.  Moving is going to be a massive expense (it always costs more than you think it will) and there are a lot of details to be worked out.   Honestly I doubt that two months is enough time to even figure out how to get the visa.  Once you get the visa, get jobs, and get settled, then have a wedding.

    If the wedding is more important, maybe look at moving in a year or eighteen months - after you've got a better idea of what is required to move to another country and you've saved the funds for it.

    Hope this helps. 
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  • Like PP mentioned, you can't just decide to move to another country on a whim. Have you done ANY research on it?

    Canada has a LOT of requirements. If you don't meet certain health and education requirements they will not let you in. There is an exam you will have to take and get scored.

    Are you both seriously planning on moving with NO jobs lined up? Because that is probably the stupidest thing I've ever heard, ESPECIALLY moving to a different country. I know plenty of people who have moved to Canada and they had an extremely hard time finding work because of their citizenship (Canadians will hire other Canadians before they will hire an American or other international).

    PP already mentioned how hard it can be to get a VISA, and most countries will not issue you a work Visa unless you already have a job lined up (At least this was the case for me when I worked abroad in New Zealand 4 years ago).

    I would take a step back from wedding planning AND the idea of moving until you both have a more solid plan for your lives. Please take the time to do research before just deciding to uproot yourselves.
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  • I agree with PPs. I am Canadian and have some friends that are from other countries and have married a Canadian and have heard first hand how difficult and long the process is.

    Plus I work for a company that is trying to hire a forgeiner because we literally can't find anyone in the country with the skills we need and we've been looking for a long time. I've been working on the paper work and it's pretty insane. A company has to REALLY want you to go through all that for you.
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  • Getting married earlier than Oct. 2013:  Sure.  What you have planned sounds great.  So move it up to Valentine's Day weekend or some weeking in March or April.  That way, you can concentrate on planning your wedding and getting married, and have that over by the time you need to concentrate on finishing your current work contract over the summer through August, and then move in September.

    Moving to Vancouver:  OMG.  Like the other Knotties have already said, that is a HUGE deal.  I have a friend who wanted to move to Toronto, and he went through a BUNCH of stuff and tried to make this work, but ended up moving to Minneapolis instead.  Try looking at moving to Seattle, and then traveling 150 miles to Vancouver when you want to vacation.
  • A friend of ours moved from New Orleans to Victoria, Australia, about two years ago in order to marry her husband. Only last week did she FINALLY get recognized as a legal foreign resident of Australia. She too started out by applying for a work visa, and after she found work and they had their wedding, she also applied for a spouse visa. It was hard for her all the way through the process. I don't recall her necessarily having to have a job lined up before she left, but she did have to have proof of income (I think a bare minimum of $5000 in her bank account, which she had to save for a pretty long time because her US jobs weren't paying too high), and even when she got a job in Australia, the rules dictated that because she wasn't a citizen, she wasn't allowed to stay at the same job for longer than six months during her first year there - even though she also couldn't be unemployed! It took a lot of research, time and effort on both her part and her husband's part. I aggree with previous posters who suggest doing a LOT of homework on your upcoming move before going any further. Best of luck to you both.
  • ok..so lots of advice about the whole moving to Canada thing.

    Yes, we have researched it; a lot. Which is why I recognize that it will be costly and not something we can just up and do.  We have had a consultation with an immigration firm that has informed us of different options and our chances of being granted visas.  We both work in jobs that are in high demand there, plus would score high on their points system of qualification.  It really is just an issue of time and money, and beginning the process.  No, we are not planning on moving on a whim with no jobs lined up.  He is already in communication with potential employers and is setting up interviews/trial shifts, which is another expense we have considered- we know we will have to travel there at least a couple of times beforehand to set up jobs and everything.  Trust me when I say this isn't  "on a whim" kind of thing.  And I did mention that this was all contingent on us even getting visas within a year, which we know may very well not happen. 
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    oh and, our plan B is to move to one of a few different U.S. cities we have in mind, if Vancouver proves to be impossible within a couple of years.  But in that case this issue is still the same.  Basically, where should we be putting our priorities, having the wedding and being married and getting that taken care of, or putting everything into moving first, which is going to be a big deal no matter where we go.  I feel a need to be married before we uproot our lives, with the wedding we have in mind if possible, but I also don't want that to put FI's happiness in his career in the backseat. 
  • Because the move is so up in the air and uncertain, I would focus on getting married...but that might just be me. I would hate to keep putting off getting married thinking this is the year I'd FINALLY be able to move and then it just keeps not happening.
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