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Question about long-distance marriages

I have a question for you all.  When you hear that a young married couple is in a long-distance marriage, what do you think of their relationship?  

I'm having trouble telling people that my husband and I will be doing long-distance for the next two years.  As you all know, he is Brazilian, and even after graduating from Harvard Business School this past May, he has been unable to find a single job (or get a single interview) here in the U.S., much less Boston where we live.  He has been offered a really great position in Brazil, where he would get equity in a company that has a lot of potential.  I can't go down there because I'm in school, but he hopes that he can work for this company and in two years work from the U.S. once it has grown.  We're doing this, because this is the only way he can break into business, and it's not fair for me to keep him in Boston when I'm so busy with school I can't interact with him much. But he plans to visit frequently and telecommute from Boston every couple months or so.

When I tell older people about this, I get this sense of disapproval or skepticism, and it is really driving me nuts.  It is driving me to the point of not even telling people we will be long distance.  Even a friend in school went on a tirade about him moving to Brazil.  I also get a sense that my parents aren't entirely happy.  What do you guys think of this situation, and how would you advise handling it?  I feel like our generation has to have more flexibilitywith these things because the economy is awful, but people don't seem to get it.  Our love is strong enough to be long-distance for a while, but we have committed to settling down afterwards.  

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  • I'd say that's absolutely incredible, people are always going to make comments about something they can't really understand - if you think about people in the military, etc. they don't see eachother for years at a time and they're even stronger for it, sure it can put a relationship under strain, and it'll be hard - but that's amazing and, the fact you're prepared to make sacrifices for the benefit of both of you is so admirable. I'm not going to say ignore them, cos it's not that easy, but try to shrug it off - they're either so gobsmacked that the easiest thing to do is be in denial about the strength of your relationship, or they're just plain jealous that, your love has the ability to stretch across oceans.

    I'd say, good on ya. I certainly couldn't do it!
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  • Honestly if FI and I were in this situation, I would tell people the least amount of information. It's no ones business what you and your FI do and why you do it. You guys are doing what is best for the both of you. That is a big sacrifice to make and people should respect that. If they didn't respect that, I'd tell them to bug off...well actually I probably would tell them a lot of things...

    I could understand people thinking your relationship would fail if you were still dating, but your married. And after all this is over, your relationship is going to be stronger because of it.

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    Honestly, I'd side-eye it, too.  We believe that God is the head of the husband, and the husband is the head of the home, so wherever God leads the husband, the wife follows in willing, joyful submission.  2 years apart would be a no-go for us, no matter what I was doing.  If God's leading him somewhere, I'm going with him.
  • What type of school program is it ? Could you do some online classes and finish a lil later ?

    Other then that , people who are in the military do it all the time. My FI's friend just left for another deployment for 18 months and they have 3 kids under the age of 5...

    Personally I would go crazy, but FI are already apart distance wise as it is....How long have you been married ? I would keep the info on the downlow or just be honest if they are skeptical it could actually be a great time to whitness and say that God is working in both your lives and you are not scared because he will not destroy something he has built for you ..... something like that ....
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    [QUOTE]Honestly, I'd side-eye it, too.  We believe that God is the head of the husband, and the husband is the head of the home, so wherever God leads the husband, the wife follows in willing, joyful submission.  2 years apart would be a no-go for us, no matter what I was doing.  If God's leading him somewhere, I'm going with him.
    Posted by fpaemp2011[/QUOTE]

    This exactly. I would talk to him about it if I had my dream job, but ultimately, I would follow him, regardless.

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  • Thanks for your thoughts so far. I am in law school at a highly regarded school, so I definitely don't want to throw my education away and can't do online classes. My US law degree would be pretty useless in Brazil especially since I can't speak Portuguese, so he has committed to returning in two years so we both can have careers. For those who don't know me too well in these forums, my husband and I have already done long distance between the US and Brazil when we were just dating and we survived despite everyone's skepticism. It is annoying that even though people knew how committed we were to each other during the long distance, people still give us the side look today.
  • In that case i'd use it as a whitness type conversation ...
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  • Witness type conversation? I am unfamiliar with the phrase. :
  • Whitness .... as in people who are not Christians/know the Lord/God that you tell that about how God is working in your life ...Evangelism type thing .... God gave you the strong foundation for a good marriage ...etc... stuff like that ... ?
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  • As an Orthodox Christian, I am unfamiliar with the concept. We are much more like Catholics, but since I don't fit in the Catholic board either, I post here, hehe.
  • I know several married couples who are long-distance.  It's not uncommon when both spouses are professionals - in the couples I know, at least one spouse is a medical resident, so they have no choice where they are going to be.  The couple who is going to be apart the longest, 3 years, still sees each other frequently; it just happened that she was placed here for residency, and he's in law in another state.  The other couples I know are apart "only" for a year.  One wife had to stay behind to finish her grad degree before moving here to be with her hubby.  Another couple is apart because they were matching into resideny the same year and he didn't end up where she already was.

    It's unreasonable to expect a woman to drop all her aspirations for a career to avoid a long-distance marriage.  There are some things that just can't be put on hold or done on-line.
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  • Oh ... Well that's the general thought... Just kinda "promote" your marriage/God by telling them how you are going to get through it ... It might make them think a lil ...
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  • I don't think it's as easy these days to just follow your spouse... granted, God will provide regardless... and as much of a terrible thing most people think it is, I am, and probably will be for quite some time, the chief income earner in the household.
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  • I agree with what Emily said for myself and my marriage but it seems that you and your H are pretty set on this idea, so I'm not going to try to talk you out of it. From what I know of you, G, you are a very level headed, intelligent woman. I assume your H is the same, so I respect that you guys didn't make this decision lightly. While it wouldn't be an option for me, I think I understand why you are doing this. Feels like you're stuck between a rock and hard place, huh?

    As for people talking about it, people are gonna talk. I wouldn't worried about anyone's thoughts on your decisions. They're your decisions. You're a grown, married woman. 

    Would your H be willing to commit to staying in Boston a little longer and looking harder before going to Brazil?
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  • when i hear of couples in long distance relationships i wonder why they didn't hold off getting married until they could live together.   i don't mean it in a judging way, but i just find it weird that they would get marreid but not live together.  i think that's maybe what other people think, too.  it's fine if you're just dating long distance, but it's just different with marriage.  i agree with another poster about going wherever your husband goes.  mind you, we are probably not in the same situation as you (you being in a good school).

    i'd say pray about it and see if God is telling you to hold off on your wedding for now.

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    [QUOTE] i'd say pray about it and see if God is telling you to hold off on your wedding for now.
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    </div><div>Except that GJones and her husband have been married for a little over a year now.

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  • The tickets for him to move to Brazil are bought and he leaves next Tuesday. So it is pretty much set. I wish he could stay here a little longer to see if a job comes up. But he is needed quite badly, and he wanted to sign a contract so his equity stake wouldn't get eroded. I have determined that this is the right thing for us to do. I am mostly concerned how I should keep this under wraps or phrase it in a way that doesn't invite skepticism. No one bothers to ask about how exciting of an opportunity this is, and I don't want to brag about what he is going to do. For example, companies with billions already want to invest, Harvard wants to write a business case on it, and this company could change the world by helping poor communities fight climate hange. But even if I were to share that, it just seems like we care more about money or careers than each other, which isn't the case.
  • Gjones I admire you so much.  You are so strong and brave. 
    I am sorry people are being silly about the separation.  2 years is long and hard but I can't imagine that he will be gone for all of it (like coming back for Christmas).  Between having God and the Church on your side I can see why you guys aren't too worried. 
    I think the best way to deal with people's words is to only tell them what is necessary.  When they offer critiques perhaps firmly remind them that this is your marriage and you will follow your husband’s lead.  There is no really to explain why unless they are good friends. 
    I think for older people this kind of thing is a terrible, killing idea for a young marriage but you have already done long distance relationship.  I have and I know you guys have faith that God is leading you and because of that you don't have to explain your reasoning to anyone.

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  • I'd definitely limit what I say, then. Are the people who are giving you grief trying to change your mind? I don't think saying something like, "It's done, he's working at his job in Brazil and I am here continuing with school." would be too out of line when people start giving you grief about it.
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    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_question-about-long-distance-marriages?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:70c95179-d61c-42c6-ad14-a66cba3c2aa5Post:15d21eb3-841f-43c8-a56c-0a792f2e2ceb">Re: Question about long-distance marriages</a>:
    [QUOTE]I know several married couples who are long-distance.  It's not uncommon when both spouses are professionals - in the couples I know, at least one spouse is a medical resident, so they have no choice where they are going to be.  The couple who is going to be apart the longest, 3 years, still sees each other frequently; it just happened that she was placed here for residency, and he's in law in another state.  The other couples I know are apart "only" for a year.  One wife had to stay behind to finish her grad degree before moving here to be with her hubby.  Another couple is apart because they were matching into resideny the same year and he didn't end up where she already was.<strong> It's unreasonable to expect a woman to drop all her aspirations for a career to avoid a long-distance marriage.  There are some things that just can't be put on hold or done on-line.</strong>
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    Thanks... I have been wondering how to respond to this point and this is what I was trying to figure out how to say.

    We got engaged, planned our wedding, booked the date in fall 2010 (wedding booked for August 2011).  In February 2011 an amazing job opportunity came up for my H (then FI)  that he was really excited about, but it's about 2000km away.  He had been looking for ages for a new position, this is what he wanted, a change of pace, a steady reliable job with a good pension and a salary increase.  I'm here finishing off my PhD and can't do work online or via correspondence, and I wasn't about to quit my PhD or make him not take this career opportunity.  We also did not want to change the wedding date, everything was planned and we were emotionally/financially/etc. ready to be married.  For the meantime we are living separately, it will probably be 1.5-2 years total that we are apart.  Once I'm done school I'm moving out to meet him.

    I don't think that following your husband with a willing and joyful heart needs to always be literally in the flesh.  We are still married, we see each other every 4-6 weeks and talk multiple times every day.  We are still a couple and still have challenges and joys and share in each other's lives and are growing together.  I have my own career path planned and have done my own education and there's no need to throw that all out the window so that he can have a better career.  We are doing what's best for both of us.  In the short term it means some pain living apart, but in the long run we know we will both be happier and won't feel guilty that we "held the other person back" from something they were really excited about and that was really important.

    I think every situation is different and what works for us may not work for others.  Each couple is unique and has their own relationship and needs and way of communicating and being together.  Do what's right for you, not what's right for me or other people you talk to.

    If you need support or whatever let me know, we've been living apart for about a year.
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    FWIW I've never had people give me grief about it.  Only compassionate, sympathetic responses that they feel sorry that I must be lonely or that it must be hard, offers to help with the pool or any house problems I have.  Also I get a lot of personal stories from people that they did the same thing at some point in their marriage.  Usually early, before kids but sometimes later.  I have been surprised how common it is!

    I'm sorry that your parents are giving you trouble!  I'm sure that must be stressful.  Hopefully over time they will come to understand your decision and realize that you two thought about this decision and didn't take it lightly and believe that it's what's best for you both.
  • Ryan and I are of course in a long distance relationship now, always have been. We are so looking forward to being in each other's daily lives when we marry.

    My gut says "Ahh!" when I read your situation not because I think you can't do it or it's wrong or anything, but because I know how excruciating it will be... it is so hard to be so far from Ryan, but we also haven't known the intimacy of being married already. It will likely be harder for you two, though maybe not.

    But Ryan and I do survive just fine. And technology is amazing. We talk everyday, and we can video chat [not every day because his webcam is falling apart and my internet connection is not that strong] and we love each other. There are days it is agony, and other days when it's okay. And we know it will be over... someday. At least you guys will have an end in sight....

    But I admit, if it was Ryan and I, I wouldn't do it. I would quit school and move to Brazil, or get desparate creative to find him something here in America or something. We all have our own priorities, and after almost 2 years of long distance ourselves, we'd choose to put aside one of our careers or education temporarily for the sake of being togetehr. But this is because I know how awful long distance is, so I wouldn't do it by choice. We have no choice. We have no money for me to go to him, but pretty much as soon as we do I will be there. By the end of 2012. No later, or I feel I'll go mad...

    But if we have no other options, then of course we do long distance. Not being a couple is not an option. So if you really feel there is no other way for the two of you, then do it. I'm not trying to tell you you're choosing wrong. You can do this. But I am also being quite honest when I'm saying  it's excruciating. It's a bit like pregnancy, I think. From morning sickness to labor, it is horrible, but the end result is amazing... but would someone just put themselves in the physical condition of being pregnant, without actually having a child inside them? No.

    So you have to ask yourselves: what is this agony gaining us? And is it worth it? For Ryan and me, the agony of being long distance is tiny compared to the horror of being apart, and getting each other in happy small doses with the promise of a future of daily life, it's great. It's totally worth it. So is you having your degree and him having a job in Brazil worth the long distance?

    Only you two can answer that.

    But you have to answer it. Because on the hard days, you don't think it's worth it, and that's why you have tell yourself why you're doing it and you can survive it.

    God bless you and I really know you CAN do it. It is possible. But it is hard.
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  • I didn't read all the replies before I posted, so I do see you've definitely answered all I asked. Which I figured you had, or you wouldn't be posting, but I just wanted to make sure you'd thought it all through. It does seem you have.
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  • If someone told me they were going to have to be long distance, I would assume it was a necessity, especially in this economic state.  I had a friend in college whose parents were LD.  Dad's job moved the family to South Carolina from California, but the kids were so miserable there that Mom and the kids moved back to CA and Dad stayed in SC with the job.  They are an incredible couple with a wonderful marriage and they found a way to make it work for their family.

    I also know a couple who got married while long distance and made a conscious decision to stay long distance.  Not because they had to, but because they liked it (her words, not mine).  I thought that was strange, but hey, whatever works for you.

    Think about it this way - if he were in the military and deployed, you'd be separated.  No one would say a word then because it'd be doing what was necessary for his career.  Well, moving to Brazil for a job is what's necessary for his career.

    And no, I definitely don't think you should drop your education to follow him, unless you feel that's what you're being led to do.  This is a season in your lives, you will learn from it and come out better and stronger on the othe side.
  • Thanks for your kind words, encouragement, and sharing of experiences.  I'm just trying to figure out what to say to that "friend" whose comments really irked me, for example, because I know that she will ask questions about what he is doing and I don't want her bumming me out when I'm already going to be dealing missing him. 

    International long distance is very hard.  When we dated, we one time went 10 months without seeing each other, and it was one of the harest things of my life.  But I think it will be less bad this time, because we are married and committed to each other.  There's much less uncertainty.  He has given his word that it will be temporary.  And he's already scheduled his return trip in August for a few weeks, so it won't be as bad.
  • I think what you say to her is "H is in Brazil on work.  It's unfortunate that it worked out this way, but after careful consideration we realized it made more sense for him to get his foot in the door there while I finish school here.  It's not an easy situation, of course, but we're committed to making it work.  How are things going with your _______________ (insert topic here)?"
  • I'm late to this discussion, but I just wanted to say that I know you guys will be fine! Don't worry about others- God will be with you everyday and will strengthen your relationship and that's all that matters. I will say a prayer for you- that you will feel peace when talking to others about this, that you will find the words to say to them and that they will be understanding. 

    And I like DramaGeek's wording to your friend! 
  • I am currently semi-long distance with my H and I don't have much to add other than I understand how frustrating it is to hear comments from others that sound judgmental or "side eyeing" as some here put it. It isn't fun but keep your head up. I just keep as little detail as possible to anyone trying to pry. It isn't their business and you know what is best for your relationship. 
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