August 2012 Weddings

Hmmm E-mail from officiant

So I e-mailed our officiant a couple of days ago after he emailed us (3 months late) the ceremony outline. My fi and I emailed him back just wanting to change a couple of things. For example we wanted the reading and sand ceremony separate not done together. I emailed him an example of a sand ceremony reading kind of explaining it to all the guests that came in our sand ceremony kit that he could read. Then also we asked if we could have my aunt read more towards the beginning of the ceremony not at the end.

 We had just those two ideas that we were wanting to talk to him about. A bit of a back story when we met in person about the ceremony we had explained to him about having the ceremony very light on the religious end. He is a minister, he had agreed and made some changes.

This is the first part of the e-mail he sent to us replying to our request:

"Thanks for your questions. I realize that this is of great importance to you, and I will do my best to accommodate your wishes within reason. Please keep in mind that the order and contents of the service are ultimately my decision, as the presiding minister, and it is my responsibility to see that the service has integrity as a service of worship."  

My fi and I were very upset, he is a friend of FI mom. The e-mail we had sent had nothing rude or anything and we get this nasty email. We have not responded, I am not sure how. My FI and I feel like it is our decision as it is our wedding. I guess we should have talked about the ceremony before hand with him so we could see that he wanted to turn our wedding ceremony into a worship! Urgh, we don't know what to do or how to respond. I feel like this probably is somewhat in response to our initial meeting about the ceremony when we stated that what he was planning on for the ceremony was just to much for us. But we adjusted it that day and it was fine, we just wanted to change the sand ceremony and reading. Advice on how to respond? 

Re: Hmmm E-mail from officiant

  • edited June 2012
    Where is your ceremony taking place? In or out of a church?

    It could have been taken by the minister that you were rude telling him how to have a non religious ceremony when the ministry is were his devotion is. (You should have maybe chosen a non religious officiant if you didn't want that.) I would think this would have come up in the face to face meeting but I don't know what a sand ceremony entails personally or what your readings entail.

    Edited to add: I just read what a sand ceremony is and I don't see it as much different than a unity candle. I don't see how that could be offensive religiously.
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  • Our ceremony is outside at a hotel that is hosting our ceremony and reception. We did not want to have a church wedding. We didn't tell him we wanted a non-religious ceremony. We just spoke our concern about some of the content and it being "to much" for us. We told him it doesn't fit with us. In the ceremony we had agreed on he just took out some parts here and there (as our ceremony has to be under 30 min) and this one was much longer. One thing we took out was the lords prayer that everyone even the guests would have to say, we took this out because some of our guests would feel uncomfortable and we have never heard this done at a wedding. Also we took out the part where my FI and I are supposed to kneel on the ground..... The ceremony is still religious. 

    It is possible we did offend him, but he knows us very well through FI mom. We just felt like the ceremony should somewhat reflect who we are. 
  • edited June 2012
    Then I think maybe it could be just a mismatch of personalities. I am not sure how to come to terms with it though or if you should look for someone who is a better match? :( How important are these details for you as to when they occur?

    Honestly the ceremony goes by very quickly and I couldn't tell you what order in my previous marriage or weddings that I have attended when those things happened.

    For my first wedding I can't remember changing anything about the wedding except he asked if I wanted to take "obey" out of my vows which I said yes. It was a religious ceremony.

    This wedding I wrote the entire ceremony and his brother got ordained to marry us so it was totally different than the first and non religious.
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  • It is tough because you hired a minister to do a non-religious ceremony.  His job, his beliefs and his way are based on his religion and if you are taking things out that he deems are important that is probably why you are facing these issues. I totally agree it is your decision on what is and isn't in the ceremony but that should have all been discussed before hiring someone and based on what you said it should be someone of non-religious background.
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  • I feel like you and your FI aren't on the same page as your officiant. This is his career, life, and practice. Some officiants don't feel they have the right to adapt the service too much.
    I think it is good that you two asserted your wants, and you'll just have to decide whether you are okay with want this officiant wants to do for a ceremony. It may not be a negotiable point for him.

    I'm sorry this is upon you 2 months before!
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