Awesome. A student wants to punch me in the face.

Re: Awesome. A student wants to punch me in the face.

• sunshine9779 member

  

  April 2012

  I'm sorry this happened to you, but I loved reading this thread.  I guess I didn't realize how many teachers are on this board!  It's nice to know we're not alone and that across the country we're dealing with similar issues.
   
  I teach upper elementary school.  We're not supposed to take a student's cell phone/iPod away from them either --the principal can.  It's in our handbook that they should be "off and away" during school hours.  I have the agreement with my students that I will keep my phone on silent and they will do the same.  If their phone goes off in class I can answer it and remind the caller that they are in school.  If mine goes off they may answer it and remind the caller that I am teaching.  It's a way to create that mutual understanding as well as show I'm living by the rules, too.
  
  No doubt teaching in this age of digital natives is soooo different from when I was in school just a decade ago!

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• junieolive member

  

  April 2012

  I know I am late to this post.
  Drama, I feel your pain.  I teach in a small "innercity" high school and I have been told to go fcuk myself and called a fcuking b*tch many times.  At least she removed herself from the situation instead of actually punching you.  Hopefully the kid will apologize and try to be on her best behavior for the rest of the school year.  Good Luck! 

  

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• mbrischoux member

  

  April 2012 edited April 2012

  In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_awesome-a-student-wants-to-punch-me-in-the-face?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:06da2bb8-cd44-45b2-8608-3bc155c4e64ePost:b2d77b8c-95c5-479b-840c-c1c19c503173">Re: Awesome. A student wants to punch me in the face.</a>:
  [QUOTE]This is a kid with chronic issues.  I believe she has more than 20 referrals on the year.  She's suspended on a regular basis.  Like I said, we're working toward a resolution, we just don't have many options.  Our administration is trying everything they can think of to help her.  She has a time out pass to go to the office whenever she wants, which is what she was using today.  I just got off the phone with the counselor and she's writing a referral for the comments made to her. Brischoux, <strong>when I taught high school I would answer the phone if it rang in class.  That only happened once in each class and then they'd all realize I meant it!  My electronics policy is really lenient - you can bring it to class and you can use it when I give you permission, which is generally when we're doing independent work.  But when I'm teaching or we're doing group work, it needs to be away.</strong>  I know some of the teachers have a much stricter policy than me and I see them fighting it so much more. And to the PP who is having a rough year - <3.  That was me year before last.  It was rough.  I took so many sick days that year.  It does get better though!  Last year was good and this year has been awesome.
  Posted by DramaGeek[/QUOTE]
  
  I haven't had the guts to answer a kid's phone yet.  I wish I had the ability!
  
  I hear ya on the leniency of your policy...I can't believe that kids still cn be so disrespectful to you when you are so understanding about this stuff!  I have pretty much the same policy in my room and I am amazed when kids are so miffed by it when other teachers hand it to an administrator right away!
  
  Hoping the rest of the year with this student goes better...and that she gets the help she needs.

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• lacey3eb

  

  April 2012 edited April 2012

  In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_awesome-a-student-wants-to-punch-me-in-the-face?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:9Discussion:06da2bb8-cd44-45b2-8608-3bc155c4e64ePost:b3b59b5b-ee58-4cca-8d99-4532cb1067a1">Re: Awesome. A student wants to punch me in the face.</a>:
  [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Awesome. A student wants to punch me in the face. : It's a little different within the same agency.  Unless there are specific confidentiality rules with counselors at schools that I'm not aware of.  But in an agency like a school where there are many different providers working with a student with behavioral issues, coordination of services and keeping everyone on the same page and up to date with what's going on is important.
  Posted by J&K10910[/QUOTE]
  
  School Counselors are bound to ethics just like any other professional counselor and should follow the ASCA guidelines for ethics in regards to confidentiality.  I'm a school counselor at the elementary level.  I don't give teachers a play by play on what students share with me.  If I feel teachers or parents need to know what a child shares with me to benefit the child then I will share as long as I have the child's permission to do so.  Otherwise what they say is confidential with the exception of the child sharing that he will harm himself or someone else, or that he or another child is being abused, or if it's court ordered for me to share.  This particular sharing of info may be different given the history of the student, but for me if a student says they WANT to punch a teacher in the face I would access the risk involved with that statement and only share if there was a risk that it may happen.  Otherwise it sounds like this student expressed their anger in a safe way rather then blowing up in the classroom. 
  
  Side note, I am so happy to work in an elementary where I do not have to deal with cellphone/technology issues!  It must be extremely challenging to teach with those issue.

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• J&K10910 member

  

  April 2012 edited April 2012

  In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_awesome-a-student-wants-to-punch-me-in-the-face?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:06da2bb8-cd44-45b2-8608-3bc155c4e64ePost:af9c581e-a124-4ffa-b2fd-59b8db0b38a8">Re: Awesome. A student wants to punch me in the face.</a>:
  [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Awesome. A student wants to punch me in the face. : School Counselors are bound to ethics just like any other professional counselor and should follow the ASCA guidelines for ethics in regards to confidentiality.  I'm a school counselor at the elementary level.  I don't give teachers a play by play on what students share with me.  If I feel teachers or parents need to know what a child shares with me to benefit the child then I will share as long as I have the child's permission to do so.  Otherwise what they say is confidential with the exception of the child sharing that he will harm himself or someone else, or that he or another child is being abused, or if it's court ordered for me to share.  This particular sharing of info may be different given the history of the student, but for me if a student says they WANT to punch a teacher in the face I would access the risk involved with that statement and only share if there was a risk that it may happen.  Otherwise it sounds like this student expressed their anger in a safe way rather then blowing up in the classroom.  Side note, I am so happy to work in an elementary where I do not have to deal with cellphone/technology issues!  It must be extremely challenging to teach with those issue.
  Posted by lacey3eb[/QUOTE]
  
  For the record, I agree that some discretion was called for in this case, and I probably would not have mentioned the student's comment to a teacher unless I felt it was absolultely necessary either.  But it sounds like basic confidentiality doesn't quite apply as normal here with everyone working together to get this girl's behavior into a better place.

  
  
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