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Blue & White · August 2012

So I think I picked up a sore throat at the doctor's office on Tuesday (why I go in for healthy physicals when I'm going to get sick is beyond me...)

Anyone have some home remedies? I'm going to the doc tomorrow if I can't beat it today, but I'm willing to try teas or anything that might work (I don't particularly think it's serious, it just hurts!)

I have Zicam and cough drops already.

If you have no sore throat remedies, you should post a funny doctor story. Here's my best one: One time, I was at a plastic surgeon to evaluate whether he could reduce scarring near my nether regions. He was about 68000 years old and told me he wouldn't do it because I was 21 years old and deserved to have a good sex life. Yep, an 80+ year old male doc told me I should have sex. Awesome.

minskat30 · August 2012

I usually gargle with warm salt water and that sometimes helps. Sorry to hear you aren't feeling well...sore throats are a pain.

Funny doctor story: Not sure if it is funny or just humiliating. The first time I had to go to the Gyno I was really nervous. I made an appointment and thought I would just tough it out. In walks the doctor and who does it happen to be....one of my friend's dad. He pretended not to know it was me (even though he clearly knew it was me). I was beyond mortified and could never look him in the eyes again.

Hummingbird125 · August 2012

OMG Minskat, I never could have gone through with it!

Here's my funny/awkward story:

Back in college I worked as a counselor at a sleepaway camp in northern PA. About halfway through the summer, I got my first ever UTI. I knew exactly what it was from hearing about them from my mom and sister, and I knew I needed to go to a doctor to get some meds ASAP. I had to go to the camp nurse to tell her what was going on, and she said that Hank would drive me to the local hospital. Hank was the 80-something year old father of the camp owner, and he pulled up in his rickety pick-up truck to drive me to the hospital. I have no idea what the nurse told him he was taking me there for, but he spent the whole ride telling me that "Boys just want you for one thing, and they never man up to deal with the consequences." and that "Sometimes, it's just better to keep your legs closed so you didn't have to make these tough decisions." I just let him babble because he was somewhat senile, but to this day I'm convinced he thought he was taking me to get an abortion.

beanbot2002 · August 2012

Definitely gargle with warm salt water. My abuelita used to make me do it and I hated it, but that shiiit works.

peekaboo2011 · August 2012

Lemon tea and honey. I've always heard to toss a shot of whiskey in there (BF's mom suggested that to me last time I was feeling under the weather), but I've never actually tried it.

Funny doctor story: I've been afraid of needles for as long as I can remember. Like, pass out terrified. My mother dates this back to when I was about 2 and a nurse was trying to draw blood, but was unable to find a vein in either arm, so she stuck me about 50 times trying to find it, all while I was screaming bloody murder. Traumatic experiences aside, I've embraced this tidbit about myself and now request someone else drive me anywhere when I have to have blood drawn or shots done. When I was 17 or 18, I had to get a shot and I was bound and determined that I would be fine. So, I walked into the room, and sat down where they told me to. I was getting nervous, so I asked if there was someone else there that I could squeeze into oblivion, or if I could lie down. The nurse told me I needed to suck it up and deal with it. She stuck me and I passed out - she didn't even get the shot done. Just, the tip of the needle in. It was fortunate that a Colonel happened to be walking out of the room, because he apparently sprinted over and had to catch me to keep me from falling off the table. She let me lie down for the actual shot after that.

LilTexasGal · August 2012

I was pretty much going to say everything that Tarra said, and am also going to add to stay away from OJ/Lemonade, I find that acidic drinks can actually irritate my throat more.

Edit: I've never had an issue with Lemon Tea (just thought I'd throw that out there.)

Peaseblossom55 · August 2012

I agree with the gargling with warm water and salt.

Hummingbird that is a pretty funny story.

TeddiD34 · August 2012

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[QUOTE]I was pretty much going to say everything that Tarra said, and am also going to add to stay away from OJ/Lemonade, I find that acidic drinks can actually irritate my throat more. Edit: I've never had an issue with Lemon Tea (just thought I'd throw that out there.)
Posted by LilTexasGal[/QUOTE]

Lemon tea with honey is great. The lemon tea acts as an antiseptic, and the honey soothes the throat.

I think you have to drink a lot of it though.

Blue & White · August 2012

Peek, your story is the story of my life. This last doc appt, the nurse "attempted" to take my blood. I was actually behaving (for once) but I was shaking relatively uncontrollably and crying. The nurse just said "I can't do this" and walked out. wtf, nurse. I've NEVER had a nurse walk out on me that quickly! Then the doc decided he didn't need my blood. Doc, I told you needles and I don't mix - you didn't believe me? I wasn't lying

I figure tea, olympics, and rest will be good for me today

LilTexasGal · August 2012

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[QUOTE]<strong>Lemon tea and honey.</strong> I've always heard to toss a shot of whiskey in there (BF's mom suggested that to me last time I was feeling under the weather), but I've never actually tried it. Funny doctor story: I've been afraid of needles for as long as I can remember. Like, pass out terrified. My mother dates this back to when I was about 2 and a nurse was trying to draw blood, but was unable to find a vein in either arm, so she stuck me about 50 times trying to find it, all while I was screaming bloody murder. Traumatic experiences aside, I've embraced this tidbit about myself and now request someone else drive me anywhere when I have to have blood drawn or shots done. When I was 17 or 18, I had to get a shot and I was bound and determined that I would be fine. So, I walked into the room, and sat down where they told me to. I was getting nervous, so I asked if there was someone else there that I could squeeze into oblivion, or if I could lie down. The nurse told me I needed to suck it up and deal with it. She stuck me and I passed out - she didn't even get the shot done. Just, the tip of the needle in. It was fortunate that a Colonel happened to be walking out of the room, because he apparently sprinted over and had to catch me to keep me from falling off the table. She let me lie down for the actual shot after that.
Posted by peekaboo2011[/QUOTE]

Ahh, I knew it. :)

I have the same problem you do. No matter how much I try to rationalize it, I just can't get over it. My problem dates back to when I was in 5th grade. I got mono and was in the ER. The lady came in and needed to draw my blood, and up until this point I was fine with needles and took getting shots/blood drawn like a champ, but I was so sick and dehydrated, and am already "blessed" with little veins that the lady stuck me a million times and I ended up screaming bloody murder and kicking the woman in the face when she attempted to butcher my other arm. Luckily they got a gal from the pediatric ward who got it first shot. From then on I've demanded (well my mother did, until I could) that I'm either laying down or have someone to squeeze and I never go alone. Also, I tell them that they get ONE shot. If they don't get it on the first shot they are done (this is especially helpful when I'm in the ER or hospital). I don't care about your ego enough to let you butcher my arm!

ETA: Grr, for whatever reason TK didn't post this back when I originally told it too. *sigh*

fizzylemonade · August 2012

Hot totties are popular in my house - honey, lemon juice, hot water, whisky. Takes the sting away from swallowing. And I agree with Tarra - stay away from dairy.

Blue & White · August 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: NEY minor MD: : Ahh, I knew it. :) I have the same problem you do. No matter how much I try to rationalize it, I just can't get over it. My problem dates back to when I was in 5th grade. I got mono and was in the ER. The lady came in and needed to draw my blood, and up until this point I was fine with needles and took getting shots/blood drawn like a champ, but I was so sick and dehydrated, and am already "blessed" with little veins that the lady stuck me a million times and I ended up screaming bloody murder and kicking the woman in the face when she attempted to butcher my other arm. Luckily they got a gal from the pediatric ward who got it first shot. From then on I've demanded (well my mother did, until I could) that I'm either laying down or have someone to squeeze and I never go alone. Also, I tell them that they get ONE shot. If they don't get it on the first shot they are done (this is especially helpful when I'm in the ER or hospital). I don't care about your ego enough to let you butcher my arm! ETA: Grr, for whatever reason TK didn't post this back when I originally told it too. *sigh*
Posted by LilTexasGal[/QUOTE]

This needle story is horrifying :) I don't actually have one specific incident that induced my phobia, but I'm not a fan of needles. I did kick the nurse the last time they drew my blood, but I didn't even kick this one (and I should have cause she was a butthead, haha)

peekaboo2011 · August 2012

I've only ever had two nurses be able to touch me with a needle and not have me pass out/freak out. One was an ER nurse named Peaches the night I whacked my head on the ice and blacked out, and she put in an IV without me even noticing.

Peaseblossom55 · August 2012

I had blood drawn yesterday and I usually pass out or come very close. The nurse was real comforting and we starting talking I barely noticed her sticking me with the needle. I still had to lay down for 10 minutes or so while sucking on a lollipop, but it beats passing out. Pee k what an awful story, no wonder you are so scared of needles.

Blue & White · August 2012

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[QUOTE]I had blood drawn yesterday and I usually pass out or come very close. The nurse was real comforting and we starting talking I barely noticed her sticking me with the needle. I still had to lay down for 10 minutes or so while sucking on a lollipop, but it beats passing out. Pee k what an awful story, no wonder you are so scared of needles.
Posted by danser55[/QUOTE]

haha, I always bring a gatorade (ya know, to recover from passing out? lol - it's tradition. That's bad news)

Peaseblossom55 · August 2012

I never thought of gatorade. It seems- as long as I lie down and have some sugar in me before during and after the blood being drawn I'm ok. It's taken a while to figure that out sadlly. Mostly because I avoid needles as often as possible.

peekaboo2011 · August 2012

I always take OJ. And when I do pass out, the smell of those ammonia tabs always sticks with me for at least a week afterwards.

ravenray · August 2012

I also recommend honey tea with lemon, but don't put milk in it.

Your guy’s stories made me laugh and feel bad for you.

My story isn't very interesting but it is all I have:

I am not really into giving blood, I know it is a great cause and I admire anyone who does it but the idea of someone draining my blood terrifies me. So my friend who is a nurse forced me for my 17th birthday to give blood. She drove me to the clinic and I was freaking out. So we get there and the nurse tests me for my iron count. It was too low because I was on my period. I was so relieved but my friend was pissed at me because I hadn't told her. But I had no idea that your period affected your iron in your blood. Since then I have tried to give blood but have never successfully done so.

Blue & White · August 2012

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[QUOTE]I also recommend honey tea with lemon, but don't put milk in it. Your guy’s stories made me laugh and feel bad for you. My story isn't very interesting but it is all I have: I am not really into giving blood, I know it is a great cause and I admire anyone who does it but the idea of someone draining my blood terrifies me. So my friend who is a nurse forced me for my 17th birthday to give blood. She drove me to the clinic and I was freaking out. So we get there and the nurse tests me for my iron count. It was too low because I was on my period. I was so relieved but my friend was pissed at me because I hadn't told her. But I had no idea that your period affected your iron in your blood. Since then I have tried to give blood but have never successfully done so.
Posted by ravenray[/QUOTE]

I was secretly thrilled not to weigh enough to give blood in high school. I do weigh enough now, but I'm on antibiotics 99.9% of all days, so that's usually a no no. Oh yea, and it's torture to me. I don't volunteer for torture. I do try to help out in OTHER ways that don't involve needles. And I also support the medical profession by telling my students (at least once a semester) to get tested for HIV, lol. It's like my main lesson of the semester because we're in an area with such a high HIV prevalence. Plus, there's no needles in an HIV test (at least, not in the initial testing)

LilTexasGal · August 2012

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[QUOTE]I always take OJ. And when I do pass out, t<strong>he smell of those ammonia tabs always sticks with me for at least a week afterwards</strong>.
Posted by peekaboo2011[/QUOTE]

Same here. I've never thought about taking OJ or gatorade (though truth be told, I still have horrible flashbacks to my colonoscopy prep when I smell lemon gatorade) with me when I go. I think I'll try it next time. One nurse did try to force me to eat some salteen crackers until she finally understood that I couldn't eat them, not that I didn't want to. Took FI saying "She has Celiac Disease - she can't eat them because of the GLUTEN" about a million times before she understood... yes, this lady told FI that crackers don't have sugar, so I'd be fine.

Raven: I never knew that your period lowered your iron count. Interesting fact. Seriously though, if one of my friends tried to drag me to give blood I would probably go crazy. I pretty much have to be dragged into the dr.'s office to get blood drawn or a shot... and thats for medical reasons. I can't imagine being able to do it electively!

melmac86 · August 2012

I have no other sore throat advice to offer that hasn't been offered already, but here's my little MD story:

I was 14 and had to have an upper endoscopy at Children's Hospital. I'm not sure if it's like this everywhere, but here they put you under general anesthesia if you're a child and having one of these procedures. I had been given some medicine to calm me down before having to be taken back to the procedure room, so my judgement was lacking a bit. I got transferred over to the procedure table and the anesthesiologist came in to start my IV. I never had one before and as he put the needle in I just yelled, "Oww, you're a jerk!" Luckily I was out very quickly after that, because as soon as the words left my mouth, I was mortified.

LilTexasGal · August 2012

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[QUOTE]I have no other sore throat advice to offer that hasn't been offered already, but here's my little MD story: I was 14 and had to have an upper endoscopy at Children's Hospital. I'm not sure if it's like this everywhere, but here they put you under general anesthesia if you're a child and having one of these procedures. I had been given some medicine to calm me down before having to be taken back to the procedure room, so my judgement was lacking a bit. I got transferred over to the procedure table and the anesthesiologist came in to start my IV. I never had one before and as he put the needle in I just yelled, "Oww, you're a jerk!" Luckily I was out very quickly after that, because as soon as the words left my mouth, I was mortified.
Posted by melmac86[/QUOTE]

Haha! This reminds me of when my little sister was waking up from her anesthesia after getting some tubes removed from her knee (she had a sporting accident and was still on heavy duty pain killers). The nurse was a little on the chubby side and my little sister put her hand on the lady's stomach and said "I can feel him kicking!" The poor lady was so embarrassed she turned bright red but she just stroked my little sister's hand and said "Thank you sweetie." My mom was super appologetic.

peekaboo2011 · August 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: NEY minor MD: : Same here. I've never thought about taking OJ or gatorade (though truth be told, I still have horrible flashbacks to my colonoscopy prep when I smell lemon gatorade) with me when I go. I think I'll try it next time. One nurse did try to force me to eat some salteen crackers until she finally understood that I couldn't eat them, not that I didn't want to. <strong>Took FI saying "She has Celiac Disease - she can't eat them because of the GLUTEN" about a million times before she understood... yes, this lady told FI that crackers don't have sugar, so I'd be fine</strong>. Raven: I never knew that your period lowered your iron count. Interesting fact. Seriously though, if one of my friends tried to drag me to give blood I would probably go crazy. I pretty much have to be dragged into the dr.'s office to get blood drawn or a shot... and thats for medical reasons. I can't imagine being able to do it electively!
Posted by LilTexasGal[/QUOTE]

<div>This shiiiit makes me stabby. Like, red mist of anger. It's hard enough dealing with this crap with regular people and trying to eat out, but in the medical field?! That's inexcusable.</div>

melmac86 · August 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: NEY minor MD: : Haha! This reminds me of when my little sister was waking up from her anesthesia after getting some tubes removed from her knee (she had a sporting accident and was still on heavy duty pain killers). The nurse was a little on the chubby side and my little sister put her hand on the lady's stomach and said "I can feel him kicking!" The poor lady was so embarrassed she turned bright red but she just stroked my little sister's hand and said "Thank you sweetie." My mom was super appologetic.
Posted by LilTexasGal[/QUOTE]

OMG! hahah. Meds will make people do and say some crazy stuff. lol.

Beads921 · August 2012

Nothing I can think of for a sore throat hasn't already been said. Usually, unless it's strep, doctors won't do anything for it (at least, around here they don't), but since it's a weekend coming up, it might be best to have it checked tomorrow anyway.

Last time I had to get my throat swabbed I hit the doctor. I have a terrible gag reflex, and she stuck the swab in there twice. I didn't mean to hit her, but it still happened reflexively. It was embarassing, although she didn't seem too flustered. This all happened in front of a student doctor as well. It was her first day observing, which got off to a great start, clearly.

I have also never given blood. All through high school I didn't weigh enough, and I was glad. Now I'm just barely over the threshold, but I'm still too chicken.

LilTexasGal · August 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: NEY minor MD: : This shiiiit makes me stabby. Like, red mist of anger. It's hard enough dealing with this crap with regular people and trying to eat out, but in the medical field?! That's inexcusable.
Posted by peekaboo2011[/QUOTE]

I think had I not been feeling so woozy and just plain awful I'd have reacted harshly. FI was ready to strangle the lady though, you'd really think that someone in the medical field would know what Celiac Disease is... or at least know that gluten isn't sugar. I totally agree with you, it is inexcusable.

minskat30 · August 2012

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: NEY minor MD: : I think had I not been feeling so woozy and just plain awful I'd have reacted harshly. FI was ready to strangle the lady though, you'd really think that someone in the medical field would know what Celiac Disease is... or at least know that gluten isn't sugar. I totally agree with you, it is inexcusable.
Posted by LilTexasGal[/QUOTE]

Agreed, completely inexcusable.

I'm lucky I don't have a problem with needles like some of you ladies (I actually had to give myself allergy shots every week for a few years so any fear I had regarding needles is, now, completely gone).

fizzylemonade · August 2012

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[QUOTE]I also recommend honey tea with lemon, but don't put milk in it. Your guy’s stories made me laugh and feel bad for you. My story isn't very interesting but it is all I have: I am not really into giving blood, I know it is a great cause and I admire anyone who does it but the idea of someone draining my blood terrifies me. So my friend who is a nurse forced me for my 17th birthday to give blood. She drove me to the clinic and I was freaking out. So we get there and the nurse tests me for my iron count. It was too low because I was on my period. I was so relieved but my friend was pissed at me because I hadn't told her. But I had no idea that your period affected your iron in your blood. Since then I have tried to give blood but have never successfully done so.
Posted by ravenray[/QUOTE]

<div>I had a friend do the same to me. She wasn't a nurse but saw it as 'doing her thing' and tried to convert most of my high school to doing it regularly. I think it's been the only time I've been glad to be on my period. After high school, I moved to the states, and Brits can't give blood here so I'm off the hook.</div>

LoveBug82510 · August 2012

I know I'm late to the party, but I wanted to join...

I agree with pp - lemon tea, gargle with warm salt water, and a the conkoction that my dad makes with whiskey and something else - clears everything up right quick!

My MD story - When I was in labor with my son 11 years ago, they had to start an iv for fluids/medicine drip. I asked them if they could wait 20 minutes until my mother (who is a RN) arrived. (I was in pain and wanted my Mommy, dammit) They came back to put the iv in and the nurse couldn't find my vein...She was sticking me and digging it around. Mind you, I'm in labor, dealing with contractions and she's inflicting unnecessary pain in my arm! As she dug for the last time, I got pissed and flung my free (right) arm and biiiitch slapped her hard. She freaked and I said "I'll have my MOM start my IV thank you." Of course the nurse freaked even more and said she couldn't allow that to which my Mom stood up and said "I've been a RN in the LDRP unit before you were born and have 23 years of experience on you, I'll put the IV in my daughters arm." As she was getting ready to put the iv in my arm, the Director of the hospital and Security showed up. She showed the director her nursing license and ID (She just came to the hospital from work). The director nodded and the IV was in at the blink of an eye. Of course, the nurse who was originally trying sat there in awe. My Mom glanced up and said "Now, that's how you start an IV." I couldn't help but laugh. To this day, when I see that nurse she just smiles, nods and walks away.

ETA: I'm absolutely hate needles. If you can't get it done in one shot, get someone else to do it. However, I can sit for an hour to hour and a half to get a tattoo (I have 2). Guess when it comes to body mod, I can handle it.....

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