S/O: Shoplifting- Downloading Music (Poll)

RebeccaJac · December 2011

What's your take? Are sites like Pirate Bay kosher? (For those of your who don't know Pirate Bay is a website where people can upload music and movie files to be "shared" with others. It avoided being closed down for a long time but is now getting hit hard with some lawsuits).

How about sharing CD's?

naomikb · December 2011

I downloaded from Napster/some of the really old music download sites back a long time ago. But now it seems the regulations are so strict, and I don't want to open myself up to hacking, it's just easier to use iTunes and buy it legally. It also means the quality is great and I don't have to wait forever for stuff to download.

So for me I'd say it's a combination of wanting to support the musicians, who I believe should be compensated for their work, and laziness to not learn about torrents that make me legally download music.

Re: sharing CDs - I have no problem with. You can share books with friends, you can share CDs with friends. I have no problem ripping a CD from a friend into my iTunes. Now me trying to explain why sharing a CD is fine but not a file is maybe a bit more complicated...

iamjoesgurl · December 2011

I barely understand iTunes so you can tell how tech savvy I am. I am not interested in learning how to share music/movies. I feel like when people don't pay for something, there is more of a tendency for things to cost more for the people who do pay. The recording industry and motion picture industry are going to command that they get paid a certain amount regardless. Just my personal opinion.

BMcLeodTeam · December 2011

As a musician, trust me, most of the music industry does NOT make more than enough money... take into consideration that although you may look at someone like Carrie Underwood for example, and think, well she makes more than enough... but if we're all downloading music what about everyone else that goes into making those CDs, do you think they'll keep getting contracts and making money? The sound techs? The graphic designers that create the covers? They all need to make a living too... and its going to hit the point that all music is digital due to this at the rate its going...

DramaGeek · December 2011

Many moons ago, before I understood how things work, I used napster to download music for free. Once I learned the way of the world, how many people it takes to produce a movie or cd and how rights/royalties work, I got really strict about it. I even get irritated when H watches stuff online that has been put there illegally.

RebeccaJac · December 2011

FI and I actually got into a pretty big fight about this. He was using Pirate Bay without fully understanding the legalities behind it and I was livid.

For me it's wrong to share music you haven't paid for. The difference between sharing a book and sharing a CD is you can get the book back, there's only one. When you can save the files, it now becomes yours.

ochemjenn · December 2011

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_christian-weddings_shoplifting-downloading-music?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural Wedding BoardsForum:464687ae-7bc1-4360-9aea-999e11f1e1adDiscussion:e274929c-16f6-406c-801d-f51c494d095ePost:3a519523-1f84-4ac5-9265-0b658a4fadde">Re: S/O: Shoplifting- Downloading Music (Poll)</a>:
[QUOTE]FI and I actually got into a pretty big fight about this. He was using Pirate Bay without fully understanding the legalities behind it and I was livid. For me it's wrong to share music you haven't paid for. <strong>The difference between sharing a book and sharing a CD is you can get the book back, there's only one. When you can save the files, it now becomes yours.</strong>
Posted by RebeccaJac[/QUOTE]

This is what it comes down to for me.

RyansBelovedBride · December 2011

Okay, this has nothing to do with music, but I'm a cashier at a retailer right now, and yesterday we had shoplifters get caught. The police came and took them out in cuffs. I thought "and this happened just after the Christian knottie converstation! I have to go on and tell them."

sister2groom · December 2011

I thought you were talking about just sharing the CDs and listening to them from the CD. Ripping the CD is like photocopying an entire book instead of buying it, less prosecutable than downloading but I don't see how it's more ethical.

To be fair, although I always felt squeamish about downloading the main reason I don't download (ilegal) things now is because my iPod died about a year ago and I've been too cheap to replace it. Now I've started renting CDs from the library, which I actually kind of like because for some reason I enjoy listening to just a few albums (plus pandora) for decent stretches before I go back for a few more.

RebeccaJac · December 2011

I left my iPod on a plane (right before my next 13 hour flight! Joy.) and haven't replaced it. Pandora seems to be needing all my needs

mkmistretta · December 2011

I come from a technology background and I see both sides of the issue. Once the music files are out on the internet I view it as fair game for anyone. Same goes for software and programming. (I'm a computer science major/junkie haha) Musicians used to have to get signed to even make a good demo. Today all of that can be done in someone's basement with the right equipment. I am more of a musicians should be supported through live music type of person. We can listen to songs through pandora and grooveshark and youtube. The only difference between a sight like that and pandora is really being able to edit the file or listen to it on an external device such as an ipod. And how many people really edit or mix songs? So in reality it's not a huge deal to me.
That being said i don't use pirate bay or anything like that. It's more for legal purposes that anything else. I used to use it a lot, but then I got a new computer. I don't do it because it is the law, not because I see a huge problem with it.

LittleBigO · December 2011

[QUOTE]I left my iPod on a plane (right before my next 13 hour flight! Joy.) and haven't replaced it. <strong>Pandora seems to be needing all my needs :)
</strong>Posted by RebeccaJac[/QUOTE]

LOVE Pandora!!

I think it depends on where your heart is. For me, I very rarely listen to music other than the radio or Pandora, so if I rip youtube video tracks of various Christian artists just to play for my long 6 hour drives to and from Kansas, and only do one cd for ME only, I don't really think of it as "shoplifting." However, I have yet to do that, and would end up going to itunes or whatever to buy each track for 99 cents instead, but I would love to have one cd of all of my favorite worship songs. I kind of think of it as "organized radio" in that case.

However, if I were listening all the time and burning copies to a lot of people and whatever else, I would find that wrong. I love music, but don't really listen all that much, and would hate to think of myself as stealing music. Which is why I result to paying 99 cents for each track. :)

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