Future hubby joining the Air Force..

MrsH8611 · May 2011

yep it's final.. on a previous post is was between this and the Marines, but the Air Force offers more, plus with his degree it is better for the Air Force and he likes the Air Force more regardless.
Paperwork won't be signed until his weight is at the exact requirement and after the wedding , but yah... ugh. I am going to need tons of support on this one! I have gone through many deployments with other family members, but can't imagine if it were my husband

SamiJoeB · May 2011

Congrats to your FI!

SarahP787 · May 2011

Good luck to you both!

shan87 · May 2011

My FH is also is a pilot in the AF PM me if you have questions!

kyrgyzstan · May 2011

Sooooo, what more does the AF offer than the MC?

Victoria2013 · May 2011

I don't think deployments will be quite as difficult as you think since you already have experience. They will be different because its now your H, but at least you already know what to expect and I think that helps significantly. I'm and AF brat, I'm now AD and my SO is currently deployed. It has been easier to go through than I thought it was going to be.

MrsH8611 · May 2011

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[QUOTE]I don't think deployments will be quite as difficult as you think since you already have experience. They will be different because its now your H, but at least you already know what to expect and I think that helps significantly. I'm and AF brat, I'm now AD and my SO is currently deployed. It has been easier to go through than I thought it was going to be.
Posted by Victoria2013[/QUOTE]

Ya I think knowing what to expect will definitily help, good point. And I am an Army bratt as well so I mean this lifestlye won't be something brand new, I just wish this damn economy wasn't so down right now!!! We both have degrees and it's much more difficult than I thought to get a job!

MrsH8611 · May 2011

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[QUOTE]Sooooo, what more does the AF offer than the MC?
Posted by WishIcouldbeinthe'stan[/QUOTE]

Well according to the comparisons we made from the MC recruiter to the AF recruiter... because of his degree each offers significant differences for his career in the military... and the major one being the AF offers to help with his super high student loans costs up to 10,000, and seeing how we both have 4 year degrees, that is double the loan payments, plus where he is at when he enters in (rank and job wise) his degree offered different options based on branch as to higher pay, rank, and outlook on what he can achieve while in the military, just to name a couple.

Not that one is better then the other, they all protect us... like I stated above I am an Army Bratt so I am not at all biased toward any branch... but between the two (MC and AF).. the comparison was with his degree aspect

firsttimersluck · May 2011

My FI is a pilot in the Navy.
Heads up! The deployments aren't so scary.

Promise. They get per diem and often the places they end up are places you can fly space A to and stay with him! (unless he's a boat guy.. then.. not so much on that front)
You can do it

But right now don't think about that, because that's a ways off. Yes the AF does offer more than the marines pilot wise (the navy even more if he's wanting to go test pilot or nasa, which is why mine is navy)
it's a fun experience and you will need LOTS of support to support HIM. We're here for ya

kyrgyzstan · May 2011

This is all going to come across as snarky, and it's not meant to be. This is just one specific thing I love about the Marine Corps. They're very much "we don't want you, you have to chase us, and you better be the best". Which I dig.

Per diem only happens if they're in certain places. I promise when my best friend was deployed to Iraq with the AF she neither got per diem nor had us all coming to visit her, though I would have if I could have. ETA: She just told me she DID get per diem in Iraq! $3 a day! I of course was thinking of per diem as in $$ for hotels and food, and she of course had her cot and the chow hall, BUT they gave her that $ for "incidentals" AND her USA and USN roommates got it too! Win. 3 bucks is 3 bucks. She also hasn't visited her H when he's deployed to less hostile areas. And Marine Naval Aviators get to be Marines, so there's that.

Yes, it's true the AF offers a higher enlisted rank with a degree than the MC does, and does loan repayment. That's what I love about the MC though, since a degree doesn't translate to leadership ability or military bearing. I honestly wish people who get rank for education in branches that do so had to go to an extended basic training, that involved the leadership and military education one generally gets as an E1-E3/4 (or O1-O2, since some graduate degrees get advanced rank in other branches too, and they often get an abbreviated OCS *shudder*). It actually cracks me up that the MC would give me E2 rank with my BA and certificate, the exact same as they would give a kid who took 3 classes. And my degree would never help me in promotion after that one (from E1 to E2). I definitely think the MC is very JFKesque. Ask not what your Marine Corps can do for you, ask what you can do for your Marine Corps. I would probably be in the MC for free if it was the only way I could do it.

But, that was just another Stan diatribe about the military, and it sounds like your FI/H has chosen a good path for himself. Is he going to contract for Security Forces?

firsttimersluck · May 2011

THe marine corps is NOT great, which is what's great about it. You have to fight for everything. Which is great if that's the kind of motivation you need. I dated a marine and have MANY marine friends now (as We were all army brats.. people stay in the military once theyre raised that way :P )
I'm pretty sure you can't be an aviator enlisted in the AF or NAvy for that matter.

And I'm not saying that all branches, places are like that. My FI was deployed to QATAR and Bahrain so hell no I didn't go visit (although I could have I suppose.. but no thanks)
But this next time he is most likely deploying to Japan, HELLO SPACE A! For pilots in the AF and Navy especially there are LOTS of places to deploy that are beautiful areas. Marine and Army pilots tend to deploy to the front lines area.

kyrgyzstan · May 2011

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[QUOTE]THe marine corps is NOT great, which is what's great about it. You have to fight for everything. Which is great if that's the kind of motivation you need. I dated a marine and have MANY marine friends now (as We were all army brats.. people stay in the military once theyre raised that way :P ) I'm pretty sure you can't be an aviator enlisted in the AF or NAvy for that matter. And I'm not saying that all branches, places are like that. My FI was deployed to QATAR and Bahrain so hell no I didn't go visit (although I could have I suppose.. but no thanks) But this next time he is most likely deploying to Japan, HELLO SPACE A! For pilots in the AF and Navy especially there are LOTS of places to deploy that are beautiful areas. Marine and Army pilots tend to deploy to the front lines area.
Posted by firsttimersluck[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>1. The Marine Corps (capitalized) IS great, lol.</div><div>2. Nowhere was I saying you could be an enlisted aviator, I think in the Army you can be a WO pilot (super cool), but I wasn't even talking about that. I was talking about advanced rank for education separately from saying that Marines are Naval Aviators and Marines. That's why they're in separate paragraphs. I'd rather get to be a Marine than get $$ for student loans, or advanced rank, but I think that's how most wannabe Marines/already in Marines feel. </div><div>3. Yes, I'm sure the Navy and AF get to go to nice places sometimes. So do the Marines (FI has been to Singapore and Thailand, and all those places). BUT, that all depends on job, aircraft (if you're in the wing), etc. For instance, FI is on attack helicopters. They fly in combat. If he was on, say, a Gulfstream IV, he'd probably get to go nicer places. He was also stationed in Japan, though I understand our definitions of deployment differ semantically. The AF also ends up at totally different bases (Turkey, for instance, which I'd be down for).</div><div>4. I simply don't think it's responsible to tell someone their H/W/FI/SO won't likely deploy to combat, because that all depends on needs of the military, and their job. There are Coast Guardsmen in Afghanistan, when my bff was deployed to Iraq (in the AF), one of her Os was in the CG. And even if OP's H goes to say, one of the Stans that's not Afghanistan (which is a reasonable possibility, since there are tons of AF personnel doing the transports and resupply), that's no picnic.

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firsttimersluck · May 2011

NOwhere did I say that being in the AF or Navy means you won't deploy to dangerous locations and that's somewhat rude to assume I just said that. I said there are LOTS, not all. Um.. hello I just said that my FI deployed to qatar and bahrain last deployment.. that means flying missions over dangerous places. When he was in bahrain he was in the fantastic tents with little to no internet and ran out of water more than on one occassion. It also, of COURSE depends on what they fly. Mine flies the P3 so he is land based, our growler pilot friend is getting ready to deploy and he will be stuck on a boat for 9 months (no per diem there) But My FI gets per diem anywhere he goes as long as it's not on a boat (although I think that rule is only for the navy... I don't think other branches pass out per diem that easily haha)

Maybe you took my generalized statement about marines/army deploying to the front lines as meaning thats ALL they deploy to, when I know very well that that is not the case (one of my marine friends is living it up in puerto rico right now after finishing at DLI)
Yes you can be a Warrent officer in the army and be a pilot (although extremely difficult to do). That is also the case for the Navy.

Buuut I'm not bickering with a Marine about this as I'm pretty sure I was originally responding to someone regarding pilot stuff in this, and I don't think the OP said ANYTHING about her FI going pilot. So it's a moot point.

kyrgyzstan · May 2011

I'm not a Marine, I just took an ASTB practice test the other day and thus know it all. So will you bicker with me still? You did tell OP not to worry about deployments because they get per diem and deploy to cool places where she can go visit. I think that's irresponsible.

Also, I think this is an important addition to this conversation.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=crqOL7M4JJY

kyrgyzstan · May 2011

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[QUOTE]My FI is a pilot in the Navy. Heads up! The deployments aren't so scary. :) Promise. They get per diem and often the places they end up are places you can fly space A to and stay with him! (unless he's a boat guy.. then.. not so much on that front)
Posted by firsttimersluck[/QUOTE]<div>
</div><div>This is what I'm saying is irresponsible. The "often" part. There's just really no way to guarantee that. </div><div>
</div><div>And I wasn't calling AF/USN deployments cake walks, far from it, so I'm not sure why you felt the need to defend your FI's to the UAE. I understand their mission and am well aware of their dangers (Libya?). I think you were the one saying that they're "often" NBD. I get that you were trying to be reassuring, which is all well and good, until she's emotionally unprepared for an Afghanistan deployment.

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Sammy0709 · May 2011

I just wanted to interject that I think the Marine Corps is awesome. DH is a Navy Corpsman who has been greenside and no one appreciates him or respects him more than his Marines. The Marines do a lot with the small budget they recieve and that, to me, is why the Marines are awesome.

I just felt the need to say that.

kyrgyzstan · May 2011

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[QUOTE]I just wanted to interject that I think the Marine Corps is awesome. DH is a Navy Corpsman who has been greenside and no one appreciates him or respects him more than his Marines. The Marines do a lot with the small budget they recieve and that, to me, is why the Marines are awesome. I just felt the need to say that.
Posted by Sammy0709[/QUOTE]

<div>Corpsmen and all military medical personnel are gods. Seriously. I'm not even in and they're my faves.</div>

SamiJoeB · May 2011

Firsttimer- Can I please just ask you to show respect for all branches. I always (and I think most of the ladies on here) capitalize all the branches. When you capitalize your FI's branch over others, basically I interpret that as you think his branch is the most important and it's just not. The military machine as a whole is amazing, and I just ask that you show all the branches respect. Thank you!

Avion22 · May 2011

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[QUOTE]My FI is a pilot in the Navy. Heads up! The deployments aren't so scary. :) Promise. They get per diem and often the places they end up are places you can fly space A to and stay with him! (unless he's a boat guy.. then.. not so much on that front) [/QUOTE]

Not necessarily. Most of us get $3.50 per diem while deployed (not even enough to buy a coffee at Green Bean), and most AF members are deploying to combat zones where family members CANNOT fly out and stay. Nor would you want to. Having said that, his career field will determine where he deploys to and for how long. Just don't want you to get your hopes up that you'll be able to visit your FH on deployment, because you most likely will NOT be able to.

MrsH8611 · May 2011

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[QUOTE]Firsttimer- Can I please just ask you to show respect for all branches. I always (and I think most of the ladies on here) capitalize all the branches. When you capitalize your FI's branch over others, basically I interpret that as you think his branch is the most important and it's just not. The military machine as a whole is amazing, and I just ask that you show all the branches respect. Thank you!
Posted by SamiJoeB[/QUOTE]

Are you talking to me here or the women above?? I definitly respect every branch, trust me. I am an Army bratt myself and in my family we have every single branch represented with one male or female and like i stated, they ALL protect us no matter what branch.

kyrgyzstan · May 2011

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[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Future hubby joining the Air Force.. : Are you talking to me here or the women above?? I definitly respect every branch, trust me. I am an Army bratt myself and in my family we have every single branch represented with one male or female and like i stated, they ALL protect us no matter what branch.
Posted by MrsH8611[/QUOTE]

<div>She was talking to Firsttimer, not you. </div>

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