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addressing invitations

My mother is driving me a little bit crazy with how to address invitations.  I'm admittedly compulsive about wanting to do everything with proper etiquette that Miss Manners would approve of, and I'm having difficulty reconciling my mother's rules with Miss Manners.  For example, my mother insists that I address the outer envelope to my sister and her husband as "Katie and Charles Matthews" instead of "Mr. and Mrs. Charles Matthews" because she says the latter doesn't even recognize my sister.  She also says I should address the inner envelope of my siblings and other close relatives as "Katie and Charles" instead of "Mr. and Mrs. Matthews" because she says the latter is too formal.

She also refuses to give me the address of my dad's friend's girlfriend and says I should put them both on the same invitation with my dad's friend's name first even though his girlfriend's name comes first alphabetically.  Her reasoning is we wouldn't be inviting her if she and my dad's friend weren't together.

My mother seems to think people will get offended by my following the rules.  That seems unrealistic to me.  At worst they can say it's a stupid rule but not think I was trying to slight them.  Should I do it my mother's way to make her happy?  Should I do it the Miss Manners way?  Or, should I do it the Miss Manners way and tell my mother I did it her way (and hope she doesn't find out)?

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    [QUOTE]My mother is driving me a little bit crazy with how to address invitations.  I'm admittedly compulsive about wanting to do everything with proper etiquette that Miss Manners would approve of, and I'm having difficulty reconciling my mother's rules with Miss Manners.  For example, my mother insists that I address the outer envelope to my sister and her husband as "Katie and Charles Matthews" instead of "Mr. and Mrs. Charles Matthews" because she says the latter doesn't even recognize my sister.  
    <strong>I would do Mr. & Mrs. Matthews.  Your sister is being recognized by the & Mrs.  </strong>

    She also says I should address the inner envelope of my siblings and other close relatives as "Katie and Charles" instead of "Mr. and Mrs. Matthews" because she says the latter is too formal.
    <strong>Inner envelopes can be less formal.  I've only ever seen first names on them, as they are to list the people invited.  We didn't have inner envelopes but thats how I would have done it. </strong>

    She also refuses to give me the address of my dad's friend's girlfriend and says I should put them both on the same invitation with my dad's friend's name first even though his girlfriend's name comes first alphabetically.  Her reasoning is we wouldn't be inviting her if she and my dad's friend weren't together.
    <strong>We didn't send seperate invites to couples, even if they didn't live together.  I would do this one as your mom says.  Not only will you be saving money on another invitation and postage, but would you be inviting this woman if she weeren't your dad's GF?  You have to take into consideration what would happen if they broke up?  By sending her own invite, she would still be invited to come, which i wouldn't think is something you want.  And we put the name first on the invitation of whoever we were closer to in the couple, regardless of the alphabet.  </strong>

    My mother seems to think people will get offended by my following the rules.  That seems unrealistic to me.  At worst they can say it's a stupid rule but not think I was trying to slight them.  Should I do it my mother's way to make her happy?  Should I do it the Miss Manners way?  Or, should I do it the Miss Manners way and tell my mother I did it her way (and hope she doesn't find out)?
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  • Well, if you're going to bring Miss Manners into it, she strongly advocates for addressing people in the manner in which they want to be addressed so that's not necessarily a back-up for what you're saying. That said, obviously it's not feasible to ask all your guests about their addressing preferences.

    So if I had to choose a style (and I did have to choose one when I did my own invitations), I agree with your mother that Mr. and Mrs. Charles Jones is offensive even though I know it's still the traditional way of addressing envelopes. And Jane and John Smith is considered more casual since it doesn't use titles.

    If you're interested, many people today opt for other variations of the traditional:
    Mr. and Mrs. John and Jane Smith
    Mr. John and Mrs. Jane Smith
    Mrs. Jane Smith and Mr. John Smith

    are just some of the ways I've seen people do it so there can be a middle ground of using titles and still acknowledging that women have names.

    As for putting your dad's friend's girlfriend on the invitation with dad's friend, that actually IS the norm. And while the standard rule is women do go first in that scenario, I admit that once again, I agree with your mom and broke that rule -- I put the name first of the person I knew best and was really inviting, whether that was the man or the woman.

    Oh and FWIW, I wouldn't think you were intentionally trying to slight anyone if you sent out envelopes addressed to Mr. and Mrs. John Smith. I would just think it was sad that someone who I imagine is fairly young is so ignorant of larger social issues and chooses to use an antiquated and offensive form of address just because she thinks it's "proper."
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    [QUOTE] Oh and FWIW, I wouldn't think you were intentionally trying to slight anyone if you sent out envelopes addressed to Mr. and Mrs. John Smith. I would just think it was sad that someone who I imagine is fairly young is so ignorant of larger social issues and chooses to use an antiquated and offensive form of address just because she thinks it's "proper."
    Posted by tenofcups4me[/QUOTE]

    What?  I consider myself fairly young at 27, and am not at all offended to be called Mrs. Husband's name, or to see Mr. & Mrs. Husbands name on anything we receive.  What are these larger social issues you are referring to?  The feminist movement?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: addressing invitations : What?  I consider myself fairly young at 27, and am not at all offended to be called Mrs. Husband's name, or to see Mr. & Mrs. Husbands name on anything we receive.  What are these larger social issues you are referring to?  The feminist movement?
    Posted by dnbeach12[/QUOTE]

    You seriously don't understand the social issues that relate to calling a woman Mrs. herhusband's first and last name without any acknowledgment that she has an actual first name even if she's chosen to give up her own last name and take his? Really?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: addressing invitations : You seriously don't understand the social issues that relate to calling a woman Mrs. herhusband's first and last name without any acknowledgment that she has an actual first name even if she's chosen to give up her own last name and take his? Really?
    Posted by tenofcups4me[/QUOTE]

    I don't like to be called Mrs. Husbands name all the time or instead of my name on a regular basis, but if something came addressed to us as Mr & Mrs Husbands name and wouldn't at all be offended by it.  Especially something so formal as a wedding invite. 
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  • That's your perogative. The OP said: "At worst, they can say it's a stupid rule." So I was pointing out what else people might think. Whether or not she cares (or you care) is up to her (and you).
  • tenofcups, an invitation addressed to Mr. and Mrs. H Lastname is offensive to me only because he should be addressed by his rank, not by Mr.  Mail addressed to Mrs. H Lastname would be offensive to me - if you're addressing me individually, address it to ME. 

    If you want to include the woman's name, the proper method is:

    Ms. Woman Lastname and Mr. Man Lastname

    Technically you should only use Mrs. when you're using her H's first name, but different people feel differently about that one, so I think you'll be fine either way on that one. 

    In terms of using their first names or Mr. and Mrs. Smith on the inner envelope. . . I'd stick with a formality appropriate to the outside of the envelope.  If you used titles on the outter, you need to use titles on the inner.

    As for the girlfriend - I wouldn't send her a separate invitation, personally.  If she's being invited as the named guest of another guest, and not on her own merits, I would send the invitation to him and include her name.  If it's his home the invite is addressed to, I'd put him on the first line and her on the second.  So, your mom wins that one.  :D
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  • That's fine if that's how you feel.  But I think most people who feel that strongly about not being called their H's name would be the same people who choose not to take their H's last name when they get married. 

    I just think saying that someone who uses Mr. & Mrs. H's name is "so ignorant of larger social issues and chooses to use an antiquated and offensive form of address just because she thinks it's proper" is a little over the top. 
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    [QUOTE]That's fine if that's how you feel.  But I think most people who feel that strongly about not being called their H's name would be the same people who choose not to take their H's last name when they get married.  I just think saying that someone who uses Mr. & Mrs. H's name is "so ignorant of larger social issues and chooses to use an antiquated and offensive form of address just because she thinks it's proper" is a little over the top. 
    Posted by dnbeach12[/QUOTE]

    Today, yes, most of us who feel that strongly don't give up our own names to begin with and I didn't. But I know my 70-year-old mother despises being addressed as my mydad's first and didn't really have the option of not taking his last in 1963 when she got married.

    At any rate, my opinion is my opinion. I lose a degree of respect for people who to choose that form of address (in real life that is; I can't say I bother to keep up with individual preferences of most people on a forum like this). And I do think it's incredibly sad that this is still an issue -- when I was a kid in the '70s, I assumed all women would keep their own names by now.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: addressing invitations : Today, yes, most of us who feel that strongly don't give up our own names to begin with and I didn't. But I know my 70-year-old mother despises being addressed as my mydad's first and didn't really have the option of not taking his last in 1963 when she got married. At any rate, my opinion is my opinion. I lose a degree of respect for people who to choose that form of address (in real life that is; I can't say I bother to keep up with individual preferences of most people on a forum like this). <strong>And I do think it's incredibly sad that this is still an issue -- when I was a kid in the '70s, I assumed all women would keep their own names by now.
    </strong>Posted by tenofcups4me[/QUOTE]

    Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I respect other people's opinions.  But I don't think you respect women who choose to take their H's last name.  I don't see this as "an issue," and its kind of upsetting to me that you think less of people who choose to take their H's name. 


    And Squirrly, you said what I meant much better.  If you are addressing just me or mailing something to just me, I would prefer Mrs. Myname Lastname.  But if its something addressed to us together I have no problem whatsoever with it  coming to Mr. & Mrs. H's name.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: addressing invitations :  But I don't think you respect women who choose to take their H's last name.  Posted by dnbeach12[/QUOTE]

    You're right. I don't. I respect that they have the right to make whatever choice they want, but I don't respect that actual choice.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: addressing invitations : You're right. I don't. I respect that they have the right to make whatever choice they want, but I don't respect that actual choice.
    Posted by tenofcups4me[/QUOTE]


    Seriously?  You disrespect someone because they choose to change their name?  I respect your right to do what you want about your own, you could at least extend the same to others.  How is your view any better than the idea that women wouldn't be permitted to NOT change their name?  It's just as snotty and intollerant.

     - My last name isn't who I am.  It's just a name.
     - I think it's easier for kids to have parents with the same last names
     - My maiden last name is easily (and commonly) misspelled into a word I find offensive and was teased mercilessly because of as a child.  I wanted to change my name regardless of getting married because of that.

    I really find your attitude on this to be offensive.  Changing one's name or not doesn't make you old school or not - it's how you live your life, not what you sign on a credit card slip. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: addressing invitations : You're right. I don't. I respect that they have the right to make whatever choice they want, but I don't respect that actual choice.
    Posted by tenofcups4me[/QUOTE]

    Wow.  I truly didn't think there were people who felt this adamently about taking your H's last name.  Do you also have no respect for women who cook their husbands dinner or are stay at home moms? 
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  • Oh Squrrly, I disagree with you on so many things that it's not surprising I disagree with you on this. I'm sorry if you're offended. But I won't apologize for my opinion. If you think it's snotty or intolerant, so be it; it probably is. I'm one of those elitist, liberal intellectual type people who actually thinks some things are good and others are bad in society and I won't apologize for that.

    And I certainly never said women couldn't change their name. I simply said it's not a choice I respect. People make many choices I don't respect. They don't need my permission or approval.
  • Squirrly, was your maiden name Delores?  JK, your post made me think of that though.


    And I completely agree with you on this.  I'm in awe that there are such strong feminists still that they have no respect for someone who takes their H's name. 
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  • I'm all for women's rights.  But I think losing respect for women who choose to change their name when they marry is equally as offensive as disapproving of women who don't.  Women should be afforded the right to choose for themselves, and there's no reasonable reason to disaprove of either choice, in my opinion. 

    Honestly, ten, over the top opinions like this are what give a lot of people poor opinions of people who consider themselves feminists.  In fact, it's what makes "feminist" a bad name in many circles. 


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  • Thank you all for your insight!  I learned a lot of interesting tidbits.  I'm thinking about using "Mr. and Mrs. Charles Matthews" or "Mr. and Mrs. Charles and Katie Matthews" on the outer envelope, I haven't decided which, and "Charles and Katie" on the inner envelope so at least her name will be on the inner envelope.  I honestly doubt my sister cares, but my OCD makes me want to use a consistent system.

    To dive into the discussion that's been going on, I think some married women would consider their married names to be more representative of themselves as individuals because it represents the husband they chose rather than father (most likely) they inherited.

    I consider myself to be a feminist.  I founded a non-profit organization with the sole purpose of advancing women in music.  Although I think certain rules of chivalry should possibly be retired, I think there are more important feminist issues for me to worry about than the version of my name people choose to use on a piece of paper I'm about to throw out.  So long as people don't call me "doll" or some other demeaning name, I don't complain.  Although I do realize I'm being a little hypocritical since I was the one who brought up the importance of names on an envelope in the first place.  Again, I plead OCD.  Tongue out
  • edited November 2010
    When a lady says "I lose a degree of respect for X", which is a precisely worded honest comment; then to respond as though she said "I have no respect for X" is an over-the-top response not merited by the original words. Similarly, "I don't respect their choice" is NOT saying "I have no respect for them". Black-and-white thinking precludes the possibility of understanding, and is frankly itself rather disrespectful of the carefully nuanced wording in the original.

    As far as the original question goes, invitations are supposed to be consistent in tone. If the invitation is formal then formal social names (Mr and Mrs Smith -- without the first names) go on the inner envelope or on the invitation itself if you are using the older form of a write-in line. An informal invitation is addressed to "John and Jane" and you don't need to use surnames. The outer envelope is addressed using the addressee's business name because its purpose is to get the information through the mail system to the right person.

    There are very real social -- and legal -- issues around establishing documentation of residency, which is what happens when mail is delivered to person A at the residence of person B. Unless you know for sure that your father's friend's girlfriend has no jealous ex's trying to find evidence for their attempt to cut off her child-support -- and if you don't even know her address it is unlikely that you know her personal history -- send her her own invitation preferably to her own address. If your mother cannot be brought to see reason, put it in your father's friend's *outer* envelope and he can hand it to her. Or send it to someone who does know her address using the words "in care of" to indicate that it is not her own address:

    Miss Mary Jones
    in care of Mr John Smith
    &tc

    Since the proper form of address in all situations is the one preferred by the addressee, a good strategy for brides with long planning horizons would be to start putting together their personal visiting book, or social register, or whatever they want to call it nowadays, and start taking note of whatever form their various friends and family prefer. That won't help fhorns147, but it may help others benefit from her angst.

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    [QUOTE]When a lady says "I lose a degree of respect for X", which is a precisely worded honest comment; then to respond as though she said "I have no respect for X" is an over-the-top response not merited by the original words. Similarly, "I don't respect their choice" is NOT saying "I have no respect for them". Black-and-white thinking precludes the possibility of understanding, and is frankly itself rather disrespectful of the carefully nuanced wording in the original. As far as the original question goes, invitations are supposed to be consistent in tone. If the invitation is formal then formal social names (Mr and Mrs Smith -- without the first names) go on the inner envelope or on the invitation itself if you are using the older form of a write-in line. An informal invitation is addressed to "John and Jane" and you don't need to use surnames. The outer envelope is addressed using the addressee's business name because its purpose is to get the information through the mail system to the right person. <strong>There are very real social -- and legal -- issues around establishing documentation of residency, which is what happens when mail is delivered to person A at the residence of person B. Unless you know for sure that your father's friend's girlfriend has no jealous ex's trying to find evidence for their attempt to cut off her child-support -- and if you don't even know her address it is unlikely that you know her personal history -- send her her own invitation preferably to her own address.</strong> If your mother cannot be brought to see reason, put it in your father's friend's *outer* envelope and he can hand it to her. Or send it to someone who does know her address using the words "in care of" to indicate that it is not her own address: Miss Mary Jones in care of Mr John Smith &tc Since the proper form of address in all situations is the one preferred by the addressee, a good strategy for brides with long planning horizons would be to start putting together their personal visiting book, or social register, or whatever they want to call it nowadays, and start taking note of whatever form their various friends and family prefer. That won't help fhorns147, but it may help others benefit from her angst.
    Posted by AroundTheBlock[/QUOTE]

    While she may have only said "I lose respect, or I don't respect that choice, I saod in a following post:   "But I don't think you respect women who choose to take their H's last name." 
    Add she responded"
    "You're right. I don't."

    So while she did not come right out and said "I have no respect for," I asked and she agreed that she does not respect women who make that choice.  So I still stand by my original argument, and still know that she said she doens't respect women who choose to take their H's name. 


    As for the bolded part, seriously?  I'm not a lawyer but I very highly doubt that a wedding invitation addressed to an individual's home that had his SO's name on the envelope would stand up in court as "establishing residency."  Brides have enough to stress about without you telling them they could bring legal action upon someone by putting their name on an invititation. 

    And I have never heard of a personal visiting book, or social register, which makes me think that your information and advice itself is outdated. 
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: addressing invitations : You're right. I don't. I respect that they have the right to make whatever choice they want, but I don't respect that actual choice.
    Posted by tenofcups4me[/QUOTE]
    Can you tell me specifically why you don't respect this choice? I take it to mean that you think women who change their names are somehow lesser than women who choose to keep their name. Do I have that right?
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: addressing invitations : You're right. I don't. I respect that they have the right to make whatever choice they want, but I don't respect that actual choice.
    Posted by tenofcups4me[/QUOTE]

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  •  fhorns147 - You are so awesome for being so concerned and asking this question.  As I plan my wedding I find these helpful.  You are going to have a great wedding!   I think most of your guest will be honored you invited them to be there, regardless of whether they would have done something different.  With family, I always find we have to pick and choose our battles as in any relationship.  LOL!

     I feel bad that I am continuing a tangent to your questions.  I hope I am not offending you.  

     tenofcups4me - I am mostly just responding (as others did) to your decision to not respect women who take their husband's name.  I wondering why you chose to use such harsh words when responding to a women nobly asking as question.  I don't see these message boards as a place to make such harsh statements.  Yes, it is your belief and your right to answer the question as stated.  I don't feel it is appropriate to be offensive to those of a different view.  I wish you would think of the consequences of your actions.  I'd love to ask you some questions about your beliefs as more of an intellectual banter offline, if you would be open.    


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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: addressing invitations : While she may have only said "I lose respect, or I don't respect that choice, I saod in a following post:   "But I don't think you respect women who choose to take their H's last name."  Add she responded" "You're right. I don't." So while she did not come right out and said "I have no respect for," I asked and she agreed that she does not respect women who make that choice.  So I still stand by my original argument, and still know that she said she doens't respect women who choose to take their H's name.  As for the bolded part, seriously? <strong> I'm not a lawyer but I very highly doubt that a wedding invitation addressed to an individual's home that had his SO's name on the envelope would stand up in court as "establishing residency." </strong> Brides have enough to stress about without you telling them they could bring legal action upon someone by putting their name on an invititation.  And I have never heard of a personal visiting book, or social register, which makes me think that your information and advice itself is outdated. 
    Posted by dnbeach12[/QUOTE]

    A little late to this, but yes, it actually does establish residency.  For proof that we lived together, Immigration departments want to see mail addressed to you both at an addreses.  We used H's neices wedding invite and TY note as our proof.
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