this is the code for the render ad
Moms and Maids

Mom's Been Bitten by the Grandma Bug...

Hello Ladies~

After having some fun reading (and sometimes adding my own advice to) other brides' posts, it appears that the time has come for me to pose a question of my own. I apologize in advance for its length.

My wedding is slightly less than four months away, and I just had my first dress fitting on the Sunday of Thanksgiving weekend. It was, at first, a lovely afternoon with my mom. We had a great time chatting with the seamstress, approving the work that needs to be done, and going to lunch afterwards - but then she decided to up the ante on the pressure that's been slowly applied since September for me to get pregnant.

I got a lecture on how my sister and I both need to "hurry up and get on with having kids, unless we're going to adopt, but even then..." and I was pointedly asked, "How long do you think you really have?" My sister and I both turned 30 this year; I have been with my fiance for six years (just engaged this June) and my sister's been with her boyfriend for about two years. I realize that according to statistics, sometimes the risk of pregnancy complications and birth defects / disorders can rise if you wait longer to have kids. But what my mom doesn't realize is that

A. I'm pretty sure it's nobody's damned business when I get pregnant;
B. I SO don't need this put on me in addition to the stress of planning the wedding;
C. We have friends who are struggling to get pregnant right now and, since they're not too much older than we are, it's freaking me out to watch; and finally
D. My fiance and I already have a difference of opinion over how long we want to wait before trying for kids - he wants to have a house, a lot of money saved up, and a game plan for one of us to stay home so we can be as prepared for children as possible, while I don't have as many reservations - so Mom's making an already stressful situation that much worse.

This intensity with baby talk really got out of control when my older brother and my sister-in-law welcomed their first child on September 5. Suddenly this baby MUST have cousins to play with, stat! And Mom must come over to babysit all the time, every day, and she promises (or... threatens?) that I'll never be able to get her out of my hair once Baby arrives!

I'm trying to see this through a compassionate filter in that maybe, just maybe, her criticism and nosiness is actually her warped way of being happy and excited for my future. But the unfavorable comparison to my brother and my sister-in-law is getting old, and this is the bitter icing on that particular cake. As happy as I am for them, they have been routinely held up by our parents as the Couple Who Can Do No Wrong, while it seems my fiance and I are seen as the Couple Who Can't Do Anything Right. When I explained to her our rationale that we'd like a house and some funds saved up before we start our family - which I think is a responsible goal - Mom acted like that was the dumbest thing she'd ever heard in her life. I'm tired of being first hinted at, then henpecked, and finally attacked, like I need to defend my reasons for not having a baby in our current apartment.

I should add the humorous irony that the "lecture lunch" took place no more than half an hour after she suggested we make a pact to be honest with each other, from now until the wedding, if one of us steps out of line. Why is it that the person who conveniently comes up with that pact is also the person who has no problem stepping out of line?

Does anyone else have a mother or other relative who's laying on the baby guilt trip? If so, what would you say (or what have you said) to make this STOP?! One bridesmaid suggested that the next time she starts, I ought to tell her that children are simply no longer an option for discussion - but I'm thinking that may be hard to do without either starting a fight or making her cry.

Re: Mom's Been Bitten by the Grandma Bug...

  • So, fight with her or make her cry. That's her fault for reacting that way, not yours. I had to tell my mom to butt out of wedding planning and my uterus, and sometimes nice just doesn't work. What you do is, sit her down, tell her you're waiting for children until you and your FI are ready, and that's the end of the discussion. You don't have to justify, explain, or defend your reasons. You just tell her the pressure is getting old, and it's not going to make you have children any faster, and your reproductive life is none of her business. If that hurts her feelings and upsets her, that's not your problem. What she's doing is not ok, and it won't stop until you put your foot down. If that doesn't work, I've used the line "when my husband and I decide to start having unprotected sex, I will let you know" on acquaintances who just didn't get the hint the first few times I asked them to drop it. Nobody asks me when we're having kids anymore.  
  • A bigger problem is that you and your FI are not on the same page about when to have children.  Making an office appointment with your OB/GYN for a frank discussion on fertility issues the older a woman gets may be in order.  Every one of my friends who has kids has said that you are never as prepared as you would like to be.  If you wait for everything to be perfect, it may not happen.
    Proud to be an old married hag!! image
  • I really sympathize with you, because we are being pressured really badly too by my husband's parents.  They live and breathe for the opportunity to get grandchildren, and it depresses me at times because it feels like they don't like me for who I am, but rather for my capacity to push out a grandkid.

    I think the culmination of all this was right before out wedding, at the rehersal dinner.  FIL was talking to me, then out of nowhere says "Are you sure you don't want to cancel the wedding, and go to the emergency room instead to give me a grandkid?"  I was so confused by the statement, and it really hurt.  Since I was in a pre-wedding panic, I was worried he was calling me fat, didn't want the wedding to happen, etc.  Not a fun time.

    We try to limit contact with them if we can.  And I usually leave the room if they bring up babies.  I get stressed out just thinking about the future, and how many boundaries we'll have to set when I actually DO get pregnant.
    Don't make me mobilize OffensiveKitten

    image

    Anniversary

  • I think your own words are perfct: "I'm pretty sure it's nobody's damned business when I get pregnant."
                       
  • My mom's had the grandma bug since 2009 (focus started on my brother but shifted to me pretty quickly); and H and I are only 25.

    I think if a polite conversation didn't work it's time to be frank.  If her feelings get hurt that's not your problem.  If saying something on the TMI side will finally get the message across go for it. 

    My go-to answer lately when someone asks when we're having kids is "not in the next 9 months"
  • When you are married and even before, there will be a lot of people asking you when you are having kids. This is such a terrible thing to ask someone. Not only is it invasive question, but some couples can not have children. I used to get so annoyed by this, so I understand your frustrations.

    I have learn to deflect this situation and turn it into humor. For example:

    Invasive Parent: So, when are you having kids?
    My Response: I do have a kid, and your grand-dog is right over there.

    It takes the attention away from me, and puts it on something else. Then, I talk about the cutest thing my dog did that day or week. Then, the topic is completely changed. It works for me.



  • Retread, some people don't know how to react to the news of a death, especially when it's a baby. They don't feel like it's enough to say "I'm sorry for your loss." So they fumble around with the horrible statements that you have mentioned. I wish everyone would read your words.You have taken your losses and used them to educate us. Thank you.

                       
  • I can't WAIT to be a grandma !  But, I have never nor plan to ask my DD when she and her H plan to start a family.  I will be their support system for whatever plans they have to have children, or not have children.  My kids are adults now, my job is done. 
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_moms-maids_moms-been-bitten-by-the-grandma-bug?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special Topic Wedding BoardsForum:357Discussion:e3ef0801-d35c-4ce1-926f-57a99392a8c2Post:65af890c-95e4-4305-b69d-87ead48eb39e">Re: Mom's Been Bitten by the Grandma Bug...</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Mom's Been Bitten by the Grandma Bug... : [QUOTE]Retread, some people don't know how to react to the news of a death, especially when it's a baby. They don't feel like it's enough to say "I'm sorry for your loss." So they fumble around with the horrible statements that you have mentioned. I wish everyone would read your words.You have taken your losses and used them to educate us. Thank you. Yeah, and that's all they should say.  It's a death. I started asking them, "Would you say, 'it wasn't meant to be' if my baby had been three years old, and hit by a car?"  That shut them up. Folks, if you've got infertile friends, listen to them talk if they need to - don't talk at them. If someone has a miscarriage or stillbirth, express condolences. Don't ask if/when someone plans on having children. Don't ask about their sex life. <strong>You don't have to use your mouth just because you have one.
    </strong>Posted by RetreadBride[/QUOTE]

    God gave us two ears but only one mouth for a reason.
    Proud to be an old married hag!! image
  • Wife KittyWife Kitty member
    10 Comments
    edited December 2012
    Wow, ladies; thank you so much for the great responses. Couple of things:

    1. RetreadBride, I'm so sorry for everything you went through.
        1a. I agree; in those types of situations, "I'm sorry," is really the only thing that's necessary and appropriate to say. Amazing how often we forget that - ashamed to say, myself included.

    2. The general consensus of everyone so far is that I need to get over my fear of offending my mom and show her that she needs to learn boundaries. Duly noted. It appears I have no choice, as I have already tried smiling and saying, "Let's focus on one life-altering event at a time here!" and it has done me no good.

    3. Among my LOL, oh-snap and morale-booster favorites are:
        "When my husband and I start having unprotected sex, I'll be sure to let you know."
        "We do have a kid. Your granddog is right over there." (Hey, maybe this is how I can convince my fiance that we should get a pet!)
         "Why, did you want an invitation to the conception too?"
         "God gave us two ears and only one mouth for a reason."
         "Let them take in foster children if they want more kids around the house!" (In a similar vein, my sympathetic youngest brother recently told me - tongue-in-cheek, of course - that I should fill out all the paperwork for an adoptive or foster kid in my mom's name, so that one day soon, her doorbell will ring and... "Surprise!!! Here's that kid you were asking about!!!")

    4. My annual OB/GYN appointment is coming up in Janaury, as well as a full physical. At this point I plan to tell my doctor that I'm getting married, and ask her questions about what I can realistically expect regarding pregnancy when we decide to start trying, and see what she recommends given my age and current state of health. Once we have that information, I figure my fiance and I can sit down and come up with a more solid idea of timelines. It will probably mean that, like all of our parents and indeed like most folks, we will have to rent a house or have a starter home at first instead of the mythical Perfect House right away. I think my fiance gets that too, as he and I have discussed this possibility. It's just that the more he feels he's being pushed into something, the more he wants to dig his feet in - and I understand that because we both deeply resent being pushed for kids right now.
  • Also in response to Spikeinc: congratulations on your upcoming bundle of joy!
  • My mom and FMIL badger FI and I about having kids all.the.time. Now that we are getting married soon they have gotten more persistent. The other night my parents came over and right away my mom started with baby talk. I told her very firmly that we are sick and tired of talking about it, they are beating a dead horse and the topic is NOT up for discussion. That shut her up!
    image


    Wedding Countdown Ticker


  • Ha! LiLe, I'm going to have to remember that line about "beating a dead horse," since it definitely applies in my case. Thanks again for the pep talk and advice, everyone!
  • Wife KittyWife Kitty member
    10 Comments
    edited December 2012
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_moms-maids_moms-been-bitten-by-the-grandma-bug?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:357Discussion:e3ef0801-d35c-4ce1-926f-57a99392a8c2Post:c69b89f9-1126-4b34-83d1-8d6031984d7f">Re: Mom's Been Bitten by the Grandma Bug...</a>:
    [QUOTE]Thanks, WifeKitty. Have your HUSBAND checked out, too.  Get any potential problems resolved in advance.<strong> In 50% of cases it's the male who has the fertility issue.</strong>
    Posted by RetreadBride[/QUOTE]

    Wow, really? It's that high? I had no idea. Definitely going to keep that in mind; thanks for the heads up.
  • My MIL is finally getting the hint that neither of us are really into the kid thing.  My parents have my sister's kids, so the pressure is off there (even if they are on the other side of the country), but his mom does NOT want her daughter to have kids with her husband because she hates him, so then the prodding comes to us.  He's still in school, we're planning a major move in the next year or so, our kids are our pets and that's all we want.  If something happens then something happens, but it is really nobody's business but yours :)  I was waiting for it at the wedding and sure enough I started getting the 'so when you having kids' comments, I just replied it's not our thing and we have too much we want to do. I remember YEARS ago, my mom was dropping some stiff hints about wanting a granddaughter (before my sister had her little girl) and I looked at her and asked if she wanted me, who was single at the time, to jump the next guy I saw to give her one and she got the point ;)  if you have to, tell her she's putting too much pressure on you, and that tends to negativly impact the process and to back of and nature will take it's course when you're good and ready :) Good luck!
    Daisypath Anniversary tickers
This discussion has been closed.
Choose Another Board
Search Boards