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Urban farming in Detroit
http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/29/news/economy/farming_detroit.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes
I think this is fascinating! And exactly the kind of thing Detroit needs to reinvent itself and be at the forefront once again. The city is so underpopulated that it is full of land that will never fill up again, and this would stimulate their economy tremendously.
Of course, the naysayer near the bottom has the exact attitude that has brought Detroit down in the first place. The developer is opposed by the founder of the Detroit Black Community Food Security Network that says he is using his money and connections to capitalize on the small gardening projects that they have pioneered, and he is opposed to the fact that the developer is white and most of his key players are white in a 82% black city.
Detroit has always shot itself in the foot by the mentality of refusing outside help (except for government bailouts) from the predominantly white suburbs and demanding that most city contracts are by companies that have a minority owner.
That city really needs to stop segregating themselves and excluding outsiders because they need serious, serious help there. My mother's house there that I rent out is worth less than half of what she paid in 1979!
I think this is fascinating! And exactly the kind of thing Detroit needs to reinvent itself and be at the forefront once again. The city is so underpopulated that it is full of land that will never fill up again, and this would stimulate their economy tremendously.
Of course, the naysayer near the bottom has the exact attitude that has brought Detroit down in the first place. The developer is opposed by the founder of the Detroit Black Community Food Security Network that says he is using his money and connections to capitalize on the small gardening projects that they have pioneered, and he is opposed to the fact that the developer is white and most of his key players are white in a 82% black city.
Detroit has always shot itself in the foot by the mentality of refusing outside help (except for government bailouts) from the predominantly white suburbs and demanding that most city contracts are by companies that have a minority owner.
That city really needs to stop segregating themselves and excluding outsiders because they need serious, serious help there. My mother's house there that I rent out is worth less than half of what she paid in 1979!
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Re: Urban farming in Detroit
I think this is fascinating! And exactly the kind of thing Detroit needs to reinvent itself and be at the forefront once again. The city is so underpopulated that it is full of land that will never fill up again, and this would stimulate their economy tremendously.
Of course, the naysayer near the bottom has the exact attitude that has brought Detroit down in the first place. The developer is opposed by the founder of the Detroit Black Community Food Security Network that says he is using his money and connections to capitalize on the small gardening projects that they have pioneered, and he is opposed to the fact that the developer is white and most of his key players are white in a 82% black city.
Detroit has always shot itself in the foot by the mentality of refusing outside help (except for government bailouts) from the predominantly white suburbs and demanding that most city contracts are by companies that have a minority owner.
That city really needs to stop segregating themselves and excluding outsiders because they need serious, serious help there. My mother's house there that I rent out is worth less than half of what she paid in 1979!
Urban agriculture is a really up-and-coming idea (especially for doomsday-sayers) and Detroit seems to be well-placed with all their vacant land!
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Unfortunately the residents are notorious for not wanting to work. My ex owns a huge landscaping complany there that does large scale corporate and government projects. He had about 1000 employees during the summer and many of them came up for the season from Mexico because he could not find enough workers that wanted to do the physical labor for what he paid I guess.
[QUOTE]I am amazed that it is even worth that much, honestly. Detroit property goes for as little as 1,000 in some spots. Not only do they not accept any help, no one wants to give it because people keep electing corruption and greed into key offices that make decisions. FI works in Detroit, and let me tell you, it is not pretty. I say repeatedly that they need to do what Chicago did. Have a cow kick over a lantern, burn the whole thing down and rebuild. Give jobs rebuiliding it to people who need them so maybe they have something to be proud of and want to keep nice this time. Yes they did do some "fixing" up of some areas, like downtown and the stadiums (especially when the Super Bowl was here) but none of that truly helped anything or lasted very long. one of <strong>FI's coworkers said this in reference to that: If you take a dog turd and dip it in bronze, it's still a dog turd.
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LOL my H always says if you polish a turd, it's still a turd.
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: Urban farming in Detroit : LOL my H always says if you polish a turd, it's still a turd.
Posted by ricksang[/QUOTE]
Only because it's true.
Very right.
[QUOTE]<a href="http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/29/news/economy/farming_detroit.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes" rel="nofollow">http://money.cnn.com/2009/12/29/news/economy/farming_detroit.fortune/index.htm?cnn=yes</a> I think this is fascinating! And exactly the kind of thing Detroit needs to reinvent itself and be at the forefront once again. The city is so underpopulated that it is full of land that will never fill up again, and this would stimulate their economy tremendously. Of course, the naysayer near the bottom has the exact attitude that has brought Detroit down in the first place. The developer is opposed by the founder of the Detroit Black Community Food Security Network that says he is using his money and connections to capitalize on the small gardening projects that they have pioneered,<font color="#0000ff"><strong> and he is opposed to the fact that the developer is white and most of his key players are white in a 82% black city.</strong></font> Detroit has always shot itself in the foot by the mentality of refusing outside help (except for government bailouts) from the predominantly white suburbs and demanding that most city contracts are by companies that have a minority owner. That city really needs to stop segregating themselves and excluding outsiders because they need serious, serious help there. My mother's house there that I rent out is worth less than half of what she paid in 1979!
Posted by saschaduran[/QUOTE]
This *kills* me. Because it is 2009. We have a black president. We have states that allow gay marriage. We have a school system in Detroit in which maybe 200 kids will graduate from high school next year and that is on the high side. We have drug dealers stealing electricity and water for the vacant houses they use and we can't help the city because we are white and they are black. FFS, if that's the way they feel about it, and they don't want to work, then they deserve everything that they get (or don't).
It would have a much more organic and life-friendly feel to it. Rather than being so disconnected from everything we eat or make, we'd have more of a feeling of having a stake in the food and products that are made. Maybe that would help to bring up the overall morale of the city.
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What is your opinion of the new mayor? I heard he is not well liked becase he is wealthy and lives in the suburbs and refuses to move his family in the mayor mansion. It sounds to me like he is the only positive politician they have had since Dennis Archer. Coleman Young single handedly destroyed that city pretty much.
PS...my exes company built the field at Comerica Park:) And they did the riverfront landscaping. I haven't been there in about 3.5 years. I hear it is prettier, but who in the hell wants to walk around down there in emptiness.
Roseville property hasn't declined to the same level as Detroit ( I live in Waterford so I am pretty far away,but FI is a Detroit P.O. so I am down there quite a bit and I listen to it every night)
As far as the mayor goes, I think that if given the right circumstances, he could be the best thing Detroit has seen in a long time. However, there is always City Council, the whole Monica Conyers deal we are still dealing with, along with Kwame stuff still going around. I agree with you about Coleman Young. Never understood why he was re-elected. He never did anything for anybody but they loved him?
They have a weird sense of pride and weird sense of propriety down there. I don't get it. Last month we had DPS teachers stealing computer equipment--- as if those schools need any less than they have anyway?
Did you know the day of the week at school with the largest attendance rate is Monday? That's the day kids go to school because they are hungry and there is food at school. How sad is that. Don't go the rest of the week, but go Monday for the meal. I hate going into Detroit. I love going to things like Red Wing's games or Hoedown but I cannot stand the drive there. If FI didn't carry a gun, I wouldn't go. Seriously.
That is so sad about the schools. Time is doing a greats series on Detroit this year. I think it said the literacy rate was something ludicrous like 1 out of 4? And the graduation rate for public schools was only 10% or something horrible. I wish I had the article available.
A Detroit PO huh? He has his hands full. I know a girl who is one of the mounted police...I think that is pretty cool that Detroit still has police on horses. Is he downtown? I think I would feel safer downtown than most parts of town, sad to say.
And I am outrageously amazed that they ranked the literacy rate as high as 1 in 4. Parts of the D as we call it are so bad. Most of the DPS elementaries are closing/have been closed and there is no transportation to get kids to other schools in the system. No wonder no one has an education.
And I agree about the mounted P.O.s I think it is great. But I know FI would never do it, lol. He likes what he does too much. I wouldn't want to do it, but hey you know, he had an opportunity in west bloomfield for triple the amount of money and said "Hell no, I have the world's best movie screen right out the windshield of my police car. I would be bored out of my mind working in the burbs."
Whatever. We do go downtown to hang out sometimes, but I don't take my son, we always stay together, and I always make sure someone up here knows I am going down there in case I don't come back .
It was in an article I was reading about unemployment rates compared to graduation rates. It also said that Detroit's true unemployment rate was much higher than whatever it is they keep saying because the one they use on the news (and in every city not just Detroit) doesn't account for people who are underemployed, not actively searching, and never held a job (a real one, I mean. Apparently dealing coke is a job) and never want one. It's outrageous. If I had an opportunity to leave the state I would definitely jump on it. My family would be upset because they are all here, but I would go. The song "Shutting Detroit Down" is so true.