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Stressed out and trying not to doubt myself

I thought about putting this on the "Wedding Woes" board, but decided not to. If you're the "TL;DR" type, you may want to move along...

I've been engaged to my wonderful wife-to-be for about 6 months. Originally, we were planning on getting married in mid-2014 right after her graduation (from a school on the opposite side of the country from me). But actually being finished by then is unpredictable, for reasons I won't get into. To add to that, it would be VERYdifficult for my sister (who will be standing on my side) to make it at that time (my only other sibling younger brother is BM). Not to mention, that's a LOT happening all at once: graduation, moving back here, finding our own place, licensing exam, starting a new job (for her). Add a wedding + honeymoon, and boy, that's a lot to deal with.

To be perfectly clear: we've already committed to getting married, and while we're patient, pushing the date off into later in 2014 isn't what we want to do. At the time we had decided on mid-2014, it just seemed to make sense. But factoring in the schedules and the uncertainties made us begin to think otherwise. So this past week we started looking at alternative dates, where there could be more certainty about what's going on.

Other big point to mention: the families are scattered across the country. I'm in an area close to her parents, my family is almost all in an area about 6 hours north of here, her sister (and husband) are about the same distance away, and most of her family is located within a few hours' drive of where she goes to school. She's the youngest in her family, I'm the oldest in mine, and most of my cousins are in some form of grad school. In other words, there's little about the situation that's ideal by any stretch of the imagination. Also, to keep the wedding smaller and help control costs, we had initially chosen a venue out by her. This decision, made back in May or so, had not gone over that well with my family; the financial burden was a big part of the issue. But they accepted it.

Back to where we left off: the date. This past week, my fiancee and I went back to the drawing board, and came to the realization that we had what appeared to be two options. The first: wait until at least mid-2014, while not knowing for certain whether something big would gum it up (e.g., having more school requirements to finish), and knowing that for certain people involved, it wouldn't be a relaxed event. The other was moving the date to THIS December. As in, four months from now. She and I had already talked about many of the details of the wedding, but obviously there are things we need to do. However, we found a new venue (necessary), we have a pastor...she's even had her dress for months.

If the decision just to have the wedding in a location not closer to her parents (and therefore my family as well) didn't go over well, the decision to move the date to 4 months from now resulted in, well... it wasn't anger, just a lot of emotion. It's knowing that it may be even MORE difficult for a lot of my extended family to make it (some of her family and friends will also not be able to attend), and despite the fact that my family isn't being asked to shoulder practically any of the cost (again, for reasons I won't get into), there's been a sense that they should have had more input into the decision on the venue and the date. They feel like it's too rushed, and concerned as to whether we're really prepared to spend the first 1.5 years of marriage still apart (we've made it two years apart already with nary a problem).

When my faincee and I discussed moving the date to December last week, I knew that it would not really be what my family wanted to hear. But having thought long and hard about it, I believed I was making the right decision. However, after telling my family, and discussing all the reasons for it, I'm fighting off the urge to doubt myself. They really care about me, and I really care about them, and they want to be there for me. They're  struggling with this, in no small part because it's (admittedly) a significant course correction with only 4 months before we'd get hitched, and they're concerned that they may not be adequately represented in all of this. I've spent a lot of time on the phone the past couple of days talking about all of this with them. And because I care deeply about them, the whole situation has left me mentally and emotionally drained.

I'm leaving out a lot of details here, but I think this covers most of the big points. I guess what I'm asking is, has anyone here gone through a similar experience? If so, how did it play out? In hindsight, perhaps we should have set up a meeting of the respective familes to talk about all of the expectations and responsibilities (yes, they had already met each other). Would that have made a difference with the present situation? Perhaps. I don't know. But being caught in the middle of everything isn't fun. And I don't want to have to feel bad about whatever decision I made, though at this point I can't help but feel that.

My fiancee's cousin and his wife have mentioned that if you can survive planning a wedding, you can survive anything. I really want to believe that my fiancee and I, and our respective families, will come out of this whole experience without resentment, without regret, and full of happiness. I'm just having a hard time believing that at the moment...

Thanks for listening.

Re: Stressed out and trying not to doubt myself

  • ginadogginadog member
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    edited August 2012
    Hi Sam and welcome!

    My first thought would be to wait until you two can actually live together after you are married.  You said if you have it in 12/2012, then you'd be apart for the first 1.5 years of marriage.  I would personally avoid this situation.  Not because it's rushed, but because it's very crucial to start a brand new marriage in the same house to build that marital foundation in my mind. 

    The families, I think this part is just normal when you have people scattered!  You cannot please everyone, everyone has some idea for you, and someone will have the travel (or both sides). 

    Our families are scattered as well.  We did have a wedding planned where they come to us, but it was cancelled (for many reasons).  After seeing how hard it was to get people to travel and how guilty I felt about asking them to travel for us, we are now eloping in a place we want to go, and doing just want we want.  I think everyone is quite relieved that they don't have to travel now or anything! 

    I think it's nice of you to run ideas by people (I did this as well - put our feelers), but you're making them key players in this whole event when I don't believe they need to be.  Unless they are paying for it all?
  • If you two are paying for the wedding yourselves, your family does not get a say in the details.  It is always a good idea to run the date by VIPs before booking a venue.  But unless they are paying, they do not get a say in the actual venue. 

    Can the VIPs in your family attend the wedding on the day you & your FI have selected in December?  To me, that would be important in deciding to move the wedding up, that my family would be able to attend. 

    And remember, whether you plan for a December 2012 wedding or a 2014 one, there are always people you cannot attend for a variety of reasons.
  • I agree with OOM. If the VIP's, for me that would be parents, sibs, grandparents, and BFF's can make the December date and that's what you and your FI want I'd forge ahead for December. Anyone else who makes it is fantastic and a bonus. Regardless of when/where you have the wedding there will be people who will not be able to come. Accommodating everyone will drive you nuts so clear the date with immediate family and do what works best for that small group.
  • Thanks for the welcome, and the insights; I appreciate it.

    Unfortunately, I think our familes would kill us if we eloped.

    For my immediate family in particular, there's a lot playing into this emotionally, aside from just the availability of extended family and their ability to be present (long story). Let's put it this way: if I was to ask who of the extended family is a "VIP," it would be a long list. And the fact that I'm the eldest and first to get married in the immediate family has probably compounded the emotional aspect.

    I'm personally more accepting of the fact that there are people who won't be able to make it, regardless of when or where it is; they're having a much harder time with that. And while I've pointed out that it was essentially going to be a destination wedding no matter where we had it, I think there's still a lingering expectation that my part in the decision should've accounted more for my side's financial abilities. Even though her parents are paying for the whole wedding (she and I are covering booze). So even though they want everything to go well, and they have good intentions, it's been tough.

    Again, I appreciate the perspectives.
  • Welcome! 

    I recommend calling a stop to all wedding planning until you are done with school. With the variables that you have mentioned, it just seems like you and your FI have a lot of irons in the fire at the moment. Waiting to get married is not the end of the world, esp when the only other option, ie getting married in 4 months, makes the whole thing seem rushed. 

    I do understand that you and FI are excited about getting married and having a wedding. And it is an exciting time for you both. But it sounds like you are both quite young (just based on where you are in your education) and that your family might be having issues watching you two 'rush' into a wedding. Putting off planning until you are both out of school, employed and living as independent adults will prove to your family how serious you are about making your marriage work over the long run, while putting you both on the best path to having a stable future. 



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  • Hi Sam-

    I disagree with the PP who said that you need to wait until you can live together.  My FI and I are getting married in April, and he will still have a year of law school left in a city 3 hours away from me, so we're going to have a "commuter marriage" for a year.  That's not a problem for us - we were long distance for 6 years, so 1 more is not a big deal.  Obviously it would be nicer if we could live together, but that would have meant being engaged for 3 years, and that was just too long for us.  We've been engaged for nearly a year now, and it's driven me crazy - I really don't like the long engagement thing.

    As for the date, I'd probably go ahead and do December, even if it makes the families uncomfortable.  If they can't afford to be there, that's one thing - but if they are just surprised and are resisting due to surprise, that's another.  Unfortunately you can't accommodate everybody's views, and since her parents are paying for most of it, what they say goes.  Your side will be guests of her parents, so while it's nice to hear their input, they really shouldn't take over too much.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_stressed-out-and-trying-not-to-doubt-myself?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:449a4db1-afad-4c27-bdc2-f65764173fcePost:1d9b2ced-debb-4c21-83fd-d5e70a936675">Re: Stressed out and trying not to doubt myself</a>:
    [QUOTE]Thanks for the welcome, and the insights; I appreciate it. Unfortunately, I think our familes would kill us if we eloped. For my immediate family in particular, there's a lot playing into this emotionally, aside from just the availability of extended family and their ability to be present (long story). Let's put it this way: <strong>if I was to ask who of the extended family is a "VIP," it would be a long list. </strong>And the fact that I'm the eldest and first to get married in the immediate family has probably compounded the emotional aspect. I'm personally more accepting of the fact that there are people who won't be able to make it, regardless of when or where it is; they're having a much harder time with that. And while I've pointed out that it was essentially going to be a destination wedding no matter where we had it, I think there's still a lingering expectation that my part in the decision should've accounted more for my side's financial abilities. Even though her parents are paying for the whole wedding (she and I are covering booze). So even though they want everything to go well, and they have good intentions, it's been tough. Again, I appreciate the perspectives.
    Posted by SamTheEagle[/QUOTE]

    <div>No no.. not who your FAMILY thinks is VIP, who YOU think is VIP.  If you can't imagine getting married without great aunt Sally and her 4th husband, kudos to you.  But for most brides and grooms, as long as their immediate family (parents, grandparents, siblings - and that's IT) and possibly a BFF or two can make it, the rest becomes gravy - if you will.  And for those who complain or are vocal about it not being convenient for them, you say - I'm so sorry you feel that way.  We'd love to see you if you can make it work.  If not, we'll be out your way for the reunion/first communion/lunar eclipse/insert other event here next summer and we look forward to seeing you then - and then change the subject - how is cousin Katy doing this year, graduating 8th grade already - my how the time flies, this bean dip is amazing - do you have the recipe.  Repeat as necessary.</div>
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_stressed-out-and-trying-not-to-doubt-myself?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:449a4db1-afad-4c27-bdc2-f65764173fcePost:cbd09214-2e29-46d7-ae5c-2d74cefbdd79">Re: Stressed out and trying not to doubt myself</a>:
    [QUOTE]Welcome!  I recommend calling a stop to all wedding planning until you are done with school. With the variables that you have mentioned, it just seems like you and your FI have a lot of irons in the fire at the moment. Waiting to get married is not the end of the world, esp when the only other option, ie getting married in 4 months, makes the whole thing seem rushed.  I do understand that you and FI are excited about getting married and having a wedding. And it is an exciting time for you both. But it sounds like you are both quite young (just based on where you are in your education) and that your family might be having issues watching you two 'rush' into a wedding. Putting off planning until you are both out of school, employed and living as independent adults will prove to your family how serious you are about making your marriage work over the long run, while putting you both on the best path to having a stable future. 
    Posted by lennonkdc[/QUOTE]<div>
    </div><div>"Young" is relative <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />. We're both late-20's (I'm staring 30 in the face), and I've been gainfully employed for 6 years. </div><div>
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_etiquette_stressed-out-and-trying-not-to-doubt-myself?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:9Discussion:449a4db1-afad-4c27-bdc2-f65764173fcePost:47d0d812-3a2d-4c7e-a3bb-60271507ac4b">Re: Stressed out and trying not to doubt myself</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Stressed out and trying not to doubt myself : No no.. not who your FAMILY thinks is VIP, who YOU think is VIP.  If you can't imagine getting married without great aunt Sally and her 4th husband, kudos to you.  But for most brides and grooms, as long as their immediate family (parents, grandparents, siblings - and that's IT) and possibly a BFF or two can make it, the rest becomes gravy - if you will.  And for those who complain or are vocal about it not being convenient for them, you say - I'm so sorry you feel that way.  We'd love to see you if you can make it work.  If not, we'll be out your way for the reunion/first communion/lunar eclipse/insert other event here next summer and we look forward to seeing you then - and then change the subject - how is cousin Katy doing this year, graduating 8th grade already - my how the time flies, this bean dip is amazing - do you have the recipe.  Repeat as necessary.
    Posted by Loopyseven[/QUOTE]

    <div>I know, I know. It's just difficult in practice. And I've brought up the idea of the reunion-type thing mostly to no avail. </div><div>
    </div><div>...but now I really want to meet my long-lost Aunt Sally and this 4th husband of hers. She's probably pretty cool.</div>
  • Hi Sam and welcome. 

    I don't envy you all the family dynamics.  As I see it (from a MOB point of view), you two are doing great trying to make everyone happy.  However, are you making yourselves happy?  As I see it, it boils down to what you and your FI want to do (her parents also get some input, since they are paying).   Decide who are the VIPs that YOU AND FI can't see getting married without them there.  Next figure out the time frame and location that works best for you and those VIPs.  Maybe it is this December, maybe it is next December, or maybe it is mid 2013.  Set your plans and go from there.  If cousins, aunts or mom's bridge partner can't make it, too bad, so sad.  Realistically, no matter what date you choose, not everyone will be able to make it.

    DD and SIL were engaged for 3 years, after having been together for 8, but that is the timing that worked best for them. 

    As far as getting married and living apart for a year and a half, only you two can say if that is what is best for you.  It would not be my ideal situation, but I'm not you.

    If you decide to wait, perhaps if you found a neutral location that is somewhat centrally located to everyone, it may eliminate some of the compaints about location since everyone needs to travel.  On the other hand, since her parents are paying, if they want it near them, then it should be near them.  There is a saying here on the boards that is "those that pay have a say"'.  Therefore, since your folks aren't paying, you can certainly take their concerns in account, but what her parents and your preferences take precedent over theirs.

    Good luck and happy planning.
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