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Groomsman asked to pay for tux

My fiance and I are getting married this fall and are making big stretches to pay for a new home, moving costs, our share of the wedding, etc.  His parents are taking care of our groomsmen's costs (which are just vest, tie, and shirt, as it's a barn wedding and men are wearing jeans).  We felt it unfair to ask the groomsmen to pay for things, especially as one is planning to be married this year and they too are scraping by.  On to the question:  A few months ago an old friend contacted my fiance, whom he sees maybe once or twice/year.  He asked him (along with his three best friends) to be in the wedding.  My fiance wa glad to say yes and felt honored although a little odd since they don't talk very often anymore. A few weeks later the friend asked everyone if they would be able to afford their own tux as he "isn't a rich person."  (This is after he took his fiance on an elaborate vacation)  My fiance said 'yes,' expecting it to be around $80-$90 for an avg tux.  The guy asked again a few weeks ago and he said yes.  Looking back now I wish I had told my fiance to ask how much they expected the tux to run.  However, I didn't.  He was fitted this week and the total came to $200.  We are scraping by, and need over $1000 just for our own wedding costs plus we're trying to buy a house.  Their wedding is in May.  Is it too late for my fiance to back out??  No one expected the tux to run so high..especially in this part of the country (we're from a small town..mid-west area).  What makes me even more annoyed is my fiance told me they added on all the bells and whistles..nice cuff links, handkerchiefs, etc.  What should we do?

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  • HobokensFuryHobokensFury member
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    edited January 2013
    If it's too much than your FI should gracefully bow out now.  FWIW it's expected that the BP members pay for their own attire so it's not an unreasonable request.  It's nice that you are covering the cost for your GM but this is not the norm.
     
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  • $200 isn't unreasonable for men's formalwear, AFAIK.

    It would be rude of your FI to back out, but if you don't have the money, you don't have the money.
  • edited January 2013
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    [QUOTE]My fiance and I are getting married this fall and are making big stretches to pay for a new home, moving costs, our share of the wedding, etc.  His parents are taking care of our groomsmen's costs (which are just vest, tie, and shirt, as it's a barn wedding and men are wearing jeans).  We felt it unfair to ask the groomsmen to pay for things, especially as one is planning to be married this year and they too are scraping by.  On to the question:  A few months ago an old friend contacted my fiance, whom he sees maybe once or twice/year.  He asked him (along with his three best friends) to be in the wedding.  My fiance wa glad to say yes and felt honored although a little odd since they don't talk very often anymore. A few weeks later the friend asked everyone if they would be able to afford their own tux as he "isn't a rich person."  (This is after he took his fiance on an elaborate vacation)  My fiance said 'yes,' expecting it to be around $80-$90 for an avg tux.  The guy asked again a few weeks ago and he said yes.  Looking back now I wish I had told my fiance to ask how much they expected the tux to run.  However, I didn't.  He was fitted this week and the total came to $200.  We are scraping by, and need over $1000 just for our own wedding costs plus we're trying to buy a house.  Their wedding is in May.  Is it too late for my fiance to back out??  No one expected the tux to run so high..especially in this part of the country (we're from a small town..mid-west area).  What makes me even more annoyed is my fiance told me they added on all the bells and whistles..nice cuff links, handkerchiefs, etc.  What should we do?
    Posted by BEWedding2013[/QUOTE]

    Your FI needs to be honest with the groom and tell him that he can only afford to put $80-90 towards attire.  The groom should have asked for budgets beforehand.

    p.s.  how anyone else spends their money is none of your business.
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  • HobokensFuryHobokensFury member
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    edited January 2013
    I must add I guess you would think I was horribly rude because I picked a custom color that cost extra for my GM but that's the one I wanted and it was their job to shut up and pay for it because it wasn't an unreasonable amount.
     
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  • If your FI needs to bow out of the wedding due to the cost of the tux, do it now.  Less than a week before the tux ordering deadline for our wedding, a GM backed out on my H. GM said initially it was no problem, he would get whatever my H wanted him to get - tuxwise.  We went very early to get an estimate for the tux rental, it was a basic tux too.  The GM had 5 months to either save or decline being in the wedding, but he waited until about 2 weeks before the wedding, when the tux ordering deadline was.  It really through us for a loop, why didn't he say anthing earlier?  My parents graciously stepped in to pay for the tux and the GM was very thankful. 
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    [QUOTE]I must add I guess you would think I was horribly rude because I picked a custom color that cost extra for my GM but that's the one I wanted and it was their job to shut up and pay for it because it wasn't an unreasonable amount.
    Posted by HobokenBride2012[/QUOTE]

    Hoboken - has your account been hijacked??
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  • From your post, it sounds like you think he should have foregone the vacation and paid for the tuxes, which is a bad attitude to have. Like Hoboken said, it is not the norm for the couple to pay for the WP attire. They also do not have to justify to you how they spend their money. 

    If you can't afford it, your fiance will simply have to be honest and back out. 
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  • If it is not the norm...apparently this area is very odd, then.  I've talked to multiple brides, all of which have been outraged that they would stress they couldn't afford to pay for the groomsmens' attire, and then charged up $200 suits for everyone else to pay.  Thank you to those who had nice advice.  I do not need angry responses..just some advice on what others thought.  And yes, $200 is A LOT.. It takes my fiance over 17 hours to make that money before taxes.  Knowing other people are spending their money I try not to go out for all the bells and whistles.  We were MORE than happy to put aside $100..something we have to scrape up.  No, it's none of my business how they spend their money..it's my business how they spend MY money.  Some simple advice was appreciated.  And telling someone to "shut up" and pay for something is really not a nice way to go about asking things of your friends, so I can't say I'll be needing that kind of advice.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux : Hoboken - has your account been hijacked??
    Posted by GoodLuckBear14[/QUOTE]

    No it just came out a little snarkier than intended but my point is OP is upset because the groom wants cufflinks and hankys which she finds unnecessary but it's not really up to her.  She doesn't get a say in what the groom wants. Her FI has 2 choices- to pay or bow out.
     
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  • edited January 2013
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux : Hoboken - has your account been hijacked??
    Posted by GoodLuckBear14[/QUOTE]

    That's what I was wondering. That doesn't sound like Hoboken, who is always so reasonable.

    BEWedding - The gm are expected to pay for their wedding attire, but the groom should have asked for everyone's budget before making his selections. Your fi should let him know that he is stepping down because he can't afford the tux rental. The groom may offer a solution, such as downgrading some of the add-ons, or he may offer to help with the cost. If he doesn't, then the two of you should attend as guests and not feel guilty for fi withdrawing from the wedding party.
                       
  • HobokensFuryHobokensFury member
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    edited January 2013
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_customs-traditions_groomsman-asked-to-pay-for-tux?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:36Discussion:38e8db4e-8e14-4142-9ee3-ff857ad5ad41Post:ce3bbda7-6600-4794-8717-e60479f14054">Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux : <strong>That's what I was wondering. That doesn't sound like Hoboken, who is always so reasonable</strong>. BEWedding - The gm are expected to pay for their wedding attire, but the groom should have asked for everyone's budget before making his selections. Your fi should let him know that he is stepping down because he can't afford the tux rental. The groom may offer a solution, such as downgrading some of the add-ons, or he may offer to help with the cost. If he doesn't, then the two of you should attend as guests and not feel guilty for fi withdrawing from the wedding party.
    Posted by MairePoppy[/QUOTE]\

    I guess we found the one topic that I was a bridezilla about <img src="http://cdn.cl9.vanillaforums.com/downloaded/ver1.0/content/scripts/tinymce/plugins/emotions/images/smiley-wink.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />
    Anyway I promise that came out worse than I intended.
     
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_customs-traditions_groomsman-asked-to-pay-for-tux?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:36Discussion:38e8db4e-8e14-4142-9ee3-ff857ad5ad41Post:5cf62f79-007c-4f8e-ab75-1a73054a5697">Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux : No it just came out a little snarkier than intended but my point is OP is upset because the groom wants cufflinks and hankys which she finds unnecessary but it's not really up to her.  She doesn't get a say in what the groom wants. Her FI has 2 choices- to pay or bow out.
    Posted by HobokenBride2012[/QUOTE]

    Still surprised at your answer. I put this in the same category as a bride who demands certain shoes, jewelry and accessories. Usually there are standard cufflinks and hankies that come with the rentals. If the couple wants to upgrade, and it's over budget, they should make up the difference.
                       
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux : \ I guess we found the one topic that I was a bridezilla about Anyway I promise that came out worse than I intended.
    Posted by HobokenBride2012[/QUOTE]

    Now the truth comes out ; )
                       
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_customs-traditions_groomsman-asked-to-pay-for-tux?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:36Discussion:38e8db4e-8e14-4142-9ee3-ff857ad5ad41Post:eb34f656-d310-462e-9943-ef466c217d21">Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux</a>:
    [QUOTE]$200 isn't unreasonable for men's formalwear, AFAIK. It would be rude of your FI to back out, but if you don't have the money, you don't have the money.
    Posted by itzMS[/QUOTE]

    <div>Doesn't matter if <em>you</em> think that's a reasonable amount. What was rude was that the groom never asked for budgets before picking tuxes.</div>
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux : No it just came out a little snarkier than intended but my point is OP is upset because the groom wants <strong>cufflinks and hankys</strong> which she finds unnecessary but it's not really up to her.  She doesn't get a say in what the groom wants. Her FI has 2 choices- to pay or bow out.
    Posted by HobokenBride2012[/QUOTE]

    I see all of these extas as being the same as the bride wanting certain shoes, jewelry, hairstyles, etc.  If the groom wants it, he should pay for it.  The tux itself (like a dress itself) is on the GM.
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    [QUOTE]If it is not the norm...apparently this area is very odd, then.  I've talked to multiple brides, all of which have been outraged that they would stress they couldn't afford to pay for the groomsmens' attire, and then charged up $200 suits for everyone else to pay.  Thank you to those who had nice advice.  I do not need angry responses..just some advice on what others thought.  And yes, $200 is A LOT.. It takes my fiance over 17 hours to make that money before taxes.  Knowing other people are spending their money I try not to go out for all the bells and whistles.  We were MORE than happy to put aside $100..something we have to scrape up.  No, it's none of my business how they spend their money..it's my business how they spend MY money.  Some simple advice was appreciated.  And telling someone to "shut up" and pay for something is really not a nice way to go about asking things of your friends, so I can't say I'll be needing that kind of advice.
    Posted by BEWedding2013[/QUOTE]

    Nobody was "not nice" to you. Nobody gave you an "angry response". Nobody told you how to spend "your money". You got simple advice. He should tell the groom that the suits ended up out of his budget and that he would attend as a guest.
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    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux : With an attitude like this, I'm suprised you actually had friends who were willing to stand up with you.
    Posted by Sleeper2013[/QUOTE]

    As she states above - this topic was something she didn't intend to come out that snarky.

    Back to the topic at hand, I am asking my BP to pay for their attire. The location I'm in, its the BP's responsibility. Someone above said its the responsibilty of the Groom to ask for budgets ahead of time? No way - if people have issues, they should say so in the beginning when brain storming. We were up front with people at what we wanted, and we allowed their input for costs, etc.
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  • HobokensFuryHobokensFury member
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    edited January 2013
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_customs-traditions_groomsman-asked-to-pay-for-tux?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding%20BoardsForum:36Discussion:38e8db4e-8e14-4142-9ee3-ff857ad5ad41Post:d1ad3e6d-acba-470c-a57d-49fe9fb33882">Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux : With an attitude like this, I'm suprised you actually had friends who were willing to stand up with you.
    Posted by Sleeper2013[/QUOTE]

    As I stated above twice, this came out way worse than I intended.  So my apologies for the 3rd time.
     
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  • itzMSitzMS member
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    edited January 2013
    <div align="left">In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/wedding-boards_customs-traditions_groomsman-asked-to-pay-for-tux?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Wedding BoardsForum:36Discussion:38e8db4e-8e14-4142-9ee3-ff857ad5ad41Post:a0ee6485-089d-49cd-9d29-a8ee683faf54">Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: Groomsman asked to pay for tux : Doesn't matter if you  think that's a reasonable amount. What was rude was that the groom never asked for budgets before picking tuxes.
    Posted by artbyallie[/QUOTE]

    ??? I said $200 isn't unreasonable AS FAR AS I KNOW. Sheesh.

    I don't know where people find such cheap tux rentals, but we don't have other options than the $150-$200 range in my area.

    The OP thought $200 was excessive, and I was just explaining that in some situations there are no other options for men's formalwear if a tux is what is deemed appropriate for the formality of the wedding.</div>
  • Your FI needs to contact friend immediatley & tell him that he thought the tuxes would only be around $80-90 when he agreed but after finding out the full expense at the fitting it's more then he can afford to do. The FI may surprise you and help make up the difference or hopefully says, I understand, you're planning a wedding yourself & I know how expense it gets.

    When they picked out the tuxes they wanted him to wear, they should have advised him of the cost. That is the best way to confirm if someone can afford the tux.

  • edited January 2013
    This is neither here nor there, but I just had a thought-

    You mentioned that your fiance isnt very close to the groom; it might be the case that in the groom's circle of friends (or other weddings the groom has been in), it is very common to pay $200 for a tux. Because of this, the groom might not have thought about canvassing for budget. But since your fiance probably runs in a different cirle, it might not be as normal to you, your fiance, or your friends. 

    I know that for my fiance and I, our wedding party consists of people we very often associate with, and we have each been in the weddings of a lot of our wedding party members. On top of that, our wedding party members who have not gotten married themselves have at least been attendants our friends weddings. Therefore, we didnt necessarily ask a budget outright, but rather based things on what the general cost of attire for the other weddings were- no one has ever been surprised at the cost. My fiance and I (and our friends, in turn) have always expected to pay around $200 for wedding attire, both bride and groom's side, since that is the "norm" in our group.  The only way anyone would ever think to ask about budget (again, in our group in particular) would be if the cost was something substantially more than what everyone expects to pay anyways. I cant actually ever recall being asked my budget when I've served as a bridesmaid, and I have also never been surprised at the cost of a dress. It could be the same situation for the groom in your situation.

    It has worked well for us, but reading this post I can see how it would be very easy, and incorrect, to assume that what works for most will work for all. I guess my point is, the groom might actually feel badly that he assumed $200 wasnt a problem for everyone, just because its not a problem for some.

    So yes, as others have mentioned, I would have your fiance address it and see if the groom is willing to offset some of the cost.
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