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Evangelization

Hope you all don't mind a little background to create the story:

Christopher West, speaker and author that helps teach on TOB is very into music and movies. He uses music lyrics a lot to show man's ache for God, although they may be twisted up a bit "looking for love in all the wrong places". He calls them "twisted mystics". West is a HUGE (i mean huge) U2 fan.

At the TOB institute, Christopher West plays songs in between sessions, usually U2, and a couple other musicians...he has these 2 musicians come in to play a candlelight concert for every TOB I course.  These musicians write and tour in the secular circuit, one guy opened for Dave Matthews, had a video on mtv, among other things. His name is Vince. These guys are both practicing Catholics, write music that is very subtly catholic and uses song of songs type poetry. I'll link to them later. Bragging alert: at the TOB institute when I led music, Vince had me play a song with him.

Anywho, Vince's new group was playing in Nashville last night, so I took a road trip to go see him. There were a couple other people he knew through varying degrees there, not through TOB. The lead guitar had a fuse go on an amp so they had to quit before the last 2 songs. We went outside and Vince played the songs for our small little group. Vince invited these people to have another beer-- now...this place was a complete dive. Somehow the conversation went to God (not started by Vince or Me) , and someone suggested an answer that was very relativistic. Another guy who admitted to being born catholic but not anymore, asked Vince his thoughts... as soon as that happened, I was aware that something big was going to go down. I started praying hard to open hearts and guide Vinnie's words. Vince's pace was perfect, his mood chill, his witness to what he believed about Christ, and explained it as a rock musician. A rock star is on stage, and there is this "veil" between him and the people, but when the guy jumps into the crowd, the gap is bridged, and the crowd begins to feel like "he's one of us". Vince and I exhcanged a couple looks throughout this conversation...There was much more to this conversation, about no judgement, but there is truth... and the guy that asked the question said "I agree with pretty much everything you just said". At this time, U2 "where the streets have no name" started playing...which then we both could barely keep it together. The conversation ended nicely at the end of the song.
After these people left, Vince asked for another beer so we sat down and couldn't hardly believe what just happened, then talked about music writing and lyrics and the business for another hour.

This made the trip for me.

Vince's old group that was on MTV:
http://armyofmeonline.com/

new group: http://www.riverjamesmusic.com/

The other guy: Mike Mangione who I also LOVE his music:
http://mikemangione.com/


Re: Evangelization

  • ootmother2ootmother2 member
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    edited December 2011

    Back story, please

    ETA:  I don't understand if you are plugging the bands or if you are dating someone there.

  • agapecarrieagapecarrie member
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    edited December 2011
    In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_evangelization?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:615Discussion:8f73ca6c-35f5-45f9-bd72-5c01002f61a2Post:406d3476-e2c7-4846-ac1b-633f60461ae0">Re: Evangelization</a>:
    [QUOTE]Back story, please ETA:  I don't understand if you are plugging the bands or if you are dating someone there.
    Posted by ootmother2[/QUOTE]

    I gave the story in the post...... and neither.
  • Jasmine&RajahJasmine&Rajah member
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    edited December 2011
    oot, I think agape's point is that we're called to witness and to defend our faith in any time, any place, no matter how unexpected.  Also, she gave information on musicians and their work that people here might be interested in listening to.

    That was how I read it.  :-)
  • agapecarrieagapecarrie member
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    edited December 2011
    Just wanted to share an amazing Holy Spirit filled experience, as well as attest that there are people out there in all areas working for good. I linked to the musicians because I thought someone might be curious as to who they are.
  • mica178mica178 member
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    edited December 2011
    I agree that it is important that we always be prepared to defend our faith, especially those who work in fields not traditionally thought of as spiritual or Christian.

    However, in the absence of a poster asking for a musician referral/recommendation, I fail to see how posting the band's website doesn't border on advertising.  If you are going to recommend a for-profit group, please warn people in your subject line or in the body of your post.
  • doctabroccolidoctabroccoli member
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    edited December 2011
    It's definitely borderline advertising, but since she's not in the band, I'll let it go.  I don't see how it's THAT much different from passing around an awesome Etsy shop, unless she's somehow financially benefiting from these groups (which I don't think she is).  So yeah, what Mica said - tread lightly :).
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  • ootmother2ootmother2 member
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    edited December 2011
    Thanks for the input ladies.  I hope it wasn't the late hour that made me question the post.
  • agapecarrieagapecarrie member
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    edited December 2011
    oh geez, I wasn't even going there. I was not trying to "plug" anything. If I had a read a post about bands that were writing song of songs stuff, I'd be so curious as to who they were.  I mean, we all suggest West books....to me it was the same thing. How many times has everyone suggested "tcoyf"? how is this any different?

    As I titled the thread "Evangelization" , thats exactly what the post was about. The story of what happened.

    I've never felt so misunderstood. (not anyone's fault, I'm just a poor writer I guess)

    *sigh*
  • Riss91Riss91 member
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    edited December 2011
    agape - no worries. I admit I had trouble trying to figure out what you were getting at, but I think others were quick to assume you meant something bad by your post. It isn't like you are a post and run type trying to win a contest. We know where your heart is. Well, at least I do!
  • Calypso1977Calypso1977 member
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    edited December 2011
    just checked this thread.

    i cant believe anyone would think this was some type of vendor advertising.  come on, people.  and docta's logic is spot on.
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