TGIF

erin5286 · April 2013

Hi ladies! First post from my new office - my team got mostly moved in yesterday, of course it was snowing pretty hard during the move so that was not fun... but otherwise it all went well! Hoping to have a nice relaxing evening at home tonight, and tomorrow I have some shopping to get done and might go out with a friend. Anyone else have something fun planned?

Resa77 · April 2013

Glad the move went well Erin

This weekend is going to be pretty busy since I'm throwing a shower on Sunday (bridal shower). It should be fun, though

Work has been really stressful the past couple days, so the weekend is going to be a nice break from that!

professorscience · April 2013

Yay for showers but booooo for stress!

I've got two sorority sisters in Houston who are getting married about two months apart from each other, AND they've both bought houses with their FIs, so we're starting to get all the invites for their bridal showers and housewarming parties. It just makes me kind of sad that we live so far away now. One of the girls is getting married at a BEAUTIFUL parish downtown, but her wedding is 11 days after LO is due, so I doubt I'll be making that one.

As for the weekend, we're crawling out of another hard freeze just in time for a gorgeous weekend. My mom is coming to visit and we'll be making a trip up to northern OK to see her side of my family.

Had a bit of a scare with LO yesterday when I realized I hadn't felt her move all morning long, but my doctor was able to work me in and assured me through the doppler and an ultrasound that everything was okay.

Ashl07 · April 2013

Today I am watching my friends little girls who are super close in age with my little girls. We swap childcare as time allows, but she is way too busy to help much while I am in school. This weekend I am sure we will be going to the park! It is beautiful right now! Then I am really contemplating going to the super active parish for Sunday. I really really love my parish, but I kind of need the support of a bigger parish right now. As for the whole sitter thing I spoke to the single mom. She said she doesn't care how it happens we are going to make it work that I have care. So fingers crossed it works! : Professorit is so scary when you don't feel movement. Scariest moment while pregnant was when I was 37ish weeks and went in for a checkup and somehow my youngest hid from the Doppler. Yes at 37 weeks we couldn't find a heartbeat. She was fine just snuggled up in a way where we couldn't find it!

professorscience · April 2013

Ash, I agree. I tried really hard to tell myself it was nothing, but it was one of those moments where once the thought that there could be a problem had entered my mind, there was nothing that was going to make me feel better until someone with a medical degree told me everything was okay.

Strangely enough, MIL (who I didn't tell) called H later in the afternoon and asked if I'd had an ultrasound and how it went. The woman is psychic, I tells ya.

Resa77 · April 2013

Prayers, TX! And Prof, I'm so glad everything's okay...I can't even imagine how scary that would be!

newlyseliski · April 2013

@Ash - So glad you found some help!!! I hope things continue to improve for you

@Prof - Glad LO is doing well! She must be shy...

@TX - Right there with ya... hope your doc can find some answers and a good direction to proceed! My arms feel like swiss cheese with all the blood tests I got done this week! I wonder if I have any veins left...

@erin - how much snow did you guys get up in ND? driving was awful yesterday... I can't imagine how frustrating moving would be in that weather.

Chloeagh · April 2013

I hope everything goes well/continues to go well for all PPs. Prayers for everyone.

Snow here is terrible and all I have planned for the weekend is homework, papers, studying, more homework, dealing with prospective students. It should be pretty chill, and much better than FI's possible weekend. FI gets to deal with trying to buy a house from a bank that is literally the most hard to work with group of people we have ever encountered. It's like they don't want us to buy the house and leave them with a foreclosure still on their hands. If they don't respond and cooperate by tonight, FI may have to walk away, which neither of us want to do, but we just can't deal with these people.

erin5286 · April 2013

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_tgif-11?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural Wedding BoardsForum:615Discussion:b00d689a-270e-452d-9607-ad24f06847cdPost:fb467ba0-28dc-4fff-a905-a0c3d5a50564">Re: TGIF</a>:
[QUOTE]@Ash - So glad you found some help!!! I hope things continue to improve for you :) @Prof - Glad LO is doing well! She must be shy... @TX - Right there with ya... hope your doc can find some answers and a good direction to proceed! My arms feel like swiss cheese with all the blood tests I got done this week! I wonder if I have any veins left... @erin - how much snow did you guys get up in ND? driving was awful yesterday... I can't imagine how frustrating moving would be in that weather.
Posted by newlyseliski[/QUOTE]

Not sure how much we got in terms of inches, but it snowed pretty much the entire workday yesterday, and most of the morning today. If it hadn't been so windy it might have been bad, but trying to carry boxes on a slippery sidwalk while being pelted in the face with snow - not cool. Fortunately we didn't have any major injuries :) Apparently we're supposed to be getting even more over the weekend, boo on that.

Resa77 · April 2013

It's so weird how much snow everyone is getting, considering we've been having record-breaking high temps all week -- 90s! And I'm totally loving it. Everyone keeps complaining that we never got spring weather, but I think temps in the 60s are, well, over-rated!

erin5286 · April 2013

90's?!?!? Crazy!!

agapecarrie · April 2013

For lurkers, in case you haven't noticed yet. Gosnell. Google it

[Deleted User] · April 2013

Happy Friday! DH has had a rough and long week at work, so hoping to relax and chill with him tonight. Tomorrow I need to motivate myself to finish the last of my homework/tests/projects for the semester and then I will have a month break until I start another class. Sunday DH and I are probably going shopping to look for baby stuff and possibly get registered.

Peaseblossom55 · April 2013

I'm so glad the weekend here. I'm tired i need some extra sleep this weekend.

Tonight we are doing more furniture shopping for the new house and going out to dinner. Yum Mexican food at one of FI's favorite places.

Tomorrow FI has a bachelor party, so some packing the in the afternoon and then I plans for a girls night probably some indian food and then some drinks.

Sunday we have a wedding to attend at 11:30 in the morning. It should be fun but I hate that it's so early. Is it wrong to be expecting mimosas handed out upon entering????

Hope everyone has a great weekend!

CrazyCatLady3 · April 2013

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_tgif-11?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural Wedding BoardsForum:615Discussion:b00d689a-270e-452d-9607-ad24f06847cdPost:e4da82e5-7634-4b07-a713-82bae811c524">Re: TGIF</a>:
[QUOTE]For lurkers, in case you haven't noticed yet. Gosnell. Google it
Posted by agapecarrie[/QUOTE]

I've read about this guy. Does anyone else think besides prosecuting this guy, mothers who sought abortions after the point of viability should also be legally responsible? I consider myself pro-choice up to the point of viability, but if your doctor is inducing labor after that point to do an "abortion" what do you think is going to happen?

agapecarrie · April 2013

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_tgif-11?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:615Discussion:b00d689a-270e-452d-9607-ad24f06847cdPost:6b11ec5c-0f94-4760-926f-8bb9bf98a2d4">Re: TGIF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: TGIF : I've read about this guy. Does anyone else think besides prosecuting this guy, mothers who sought abortions after the point of viability should also be legally responsible? I consider myself pro-choice up to the point of viability, but if your doctor is inducing labor after that point to do an "abortion" what do you think is going to happen?
Posted by CrazyCatLady3[/QUOTE]

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</div><div>"Viability" sure is abritrary. A baby is "viable" on its own, it still needs care, its just on the other side of some skin. Babies used to not be able to survive outside the womb after 28 weeks, then 26, now 24. </div><div>
</div><div>How come medical technology determines humanity for you?</div><div>
</div><div>You are arguing for my murder. I take it personally.</div><div>
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CrazyCatLady3 · April 2013

In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/cultural-wedding-boards_catholic-weddings_tgif-11?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Cultural Wedding BoardsForum:615Discussion:b00d689a-270e-452d-9607-ad24f06847cdPost:36cc6dab-4bfe-4e70-9c77-b1d00949cd19">Re: TGIF</a>:
[QUOTE]In Response to Re: TGIF : "Viability" sure is abritrary. A baby is "viable" on its own, it still needs care, its just on the other side of some skin. Babies used to not be able to survive outside the womb after 28 weeks, then 26, now 24. How come medical technology determines humanity for you? <strong>You are arguing for my murder. I take it personally</strong>.
Posted by agapecarrie[/QUOTE]

You have said this before and I am really sorry that you take it personally. I assure you that I would not advocate your murder. 50% of the U.S. population is pro-choice in some shape or form. Do you feel that 50% of the U.S. population is advocating for your murder?
My mother, who is a practicing Christian, is very pro-choice because she witnessed her cousin almost die from a coat hanger abortion before abortion was legal. Are pro-life people advocating for the murder of my mother's cousin?

Viability is the line for me, because I don't see the world as black and white and I believe you have to weigh the greater good (or the least harm). Call that moral relativism if you like, but moral absolutism is not a positive alternative to me.

agapecarrie · April 2013

Yes, I do believe that every person who thinks abortion is ok is arguing for my murder. I DO take it personally. EACH AND EVERY "fetus" is a HUMAN PERSON. Each one has a personality and unique DNA.

And your stats are off. It isn't 50%.

I would think witnessing a coat hanger abortion would make someone think that abortion is NOT a good. It makes absolutely no sense to think anything else.

What exactly is the greater good in your opinion? A dead person is a greater good than what? Sorry, NOTHING is a greater good than anyone's life.

You still haven't back up viability? Viability changes. You are condoning the murder of a human being.

ootmother3 · April 2013

I never used to think about the gestional age of a fetus before my daughter was born at 27.5 weeks in 1979. At the tme, the late term abortion law was 24 weeks hee and I believe it is still.

There were babies in NNICU that were saline abortions that survived. Several of them in fact. While I would never have an abortion myself, laws MUST be changed on timing. The babies in that article may have been viable. And they were human beings as well.

Someone else please come up with an idea before I start agreeing with agape!!

CrazyCatLady3 · April 2013

Viability without machine assistance. I.e, a baby has fully developed lungs and can live without a ventilator for its entire life. (I don't mean a baby that needs temporary ventilator or other assistance until it can survive on its own). If medical improvements mean this definition changes, so be it. Laws have to change all the time due to modernizations.

The greater good to me is the autonomy of the mother who may be in desperate circumstances and cannot have a child. That's why witnessing a coat hanger abortion makes one want it to be legal (and safe)--so women aren't driven to do that. I weigh that as greater than a fetus that doesn't think or feel pain up to a certain point. Fetuses don't have personalities. Developed separate people/children have personalities. Bacterial strains have unique DNA. What I think you are arguing is that each has a unique soul, which I understand as the Catholic view and makes sense from that perspective, but not everyone shares that view.

Pro choicers are not advocating for women to have abortion, they are advocating for the option. That's why no one is advocating for your murder. FWIW, one of my friends was adopted and she has had 2 abortions. She appreciated having the choice.

Anyway I don't expect most people to agree with me here, obviously.

agapecarrie · April 2013

You're still not answering the question.

Why does medical technology determine humanness to you.

Or-- I guess..you think its ok to murder humans. You've put them in a classification then-- just like jews were. When you dehumanize someone, that's what that leads to

The problem with gosnell is.... legal and "safe" (its not really safe) abortion DOES exist, yet this is still happening. Your logic is not working.

No, pro-choices are advocating FOR abortion. That's what that means. Each abortion is killing an individual real person. That's why they ARE advocating for my murder. They are just as much a person as I am. It's like saying someone should have a choice to kill their mother.

You are WAAAAYYY off on your idea of when a baby begins to feel pain. If you are so confident that you think it is a good "choice", then you should at least know how its done. The baby feels pain way before viability.

And a woman can always give up a baby for adoption. Way better to have someone alive, than dead, and a woman grieving the murder of her own child for the rest of her life.

Read it. Yes, its graphic, but you should know what you are approving of people doing to other human beings. http://liveactionnews.org/torture-inflicted-by-gosnell-a-perfect-picture-of-abortion-in-america/

CrazyCatLady3 · April 2013

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[QUOTE]You're still not answering the question. Why does medical technology determine humanness to you. Or-- I guess..you think its ok to murder humans. You've put them in a classification then-- just like jews were. When you dehumanize someone, that's what that leads to The problem with gosnell is.... legal and "safe" (its not really safe) abortion DOES exist, yet this is still happening. Your logic is not working. No, pro-choices are advocating FOR abortion. That's what that means. Each abortion is killing an individual real person. That's why they ARE advocating for my murder. They are just as much a person as I am. It's like saying someone should have a choice to kill their mother. You are WAAAAYYY off on your idea of when a baby begins to feel pain. If you are so confident that you think it is a good "choice", then you should at least know how its done. The baby feels pain way before viability. And a woman can always give up a baby for adoption. Way better to have someone alive, than dead, and a woman grieving the murder of her own child for the rest of her life. Read it. Yes, its graphic, but you should know what you are approving of people doing to other human beings. <a href="http://liveactionnews.org/torture-inflicted-by-gosnell-a-perfect-picture-of-abortion-in-america/" rel="nofollow">http://liveactionnews.org/torture-inflicted-by-gosnell-a-perfect-picture-of-abortion-in-america/</a>
Posted by agapecarrie[/QUOTE]

<div>You're not going to be able to ever have a conversation with someone with an opposing viewpoint on this issue if you use hyperbole and compare abortion to the Holocaust. I have many Jewish friends who would find that highly offensive.</div><div>
</div><div>Your comparing an unborn fetus to an independent human is the breakdown--you and many others believe they should be treated the same, and I and many others do not believe they should be treated the same before the point of sentience. Whether you can have a civil conversation about it depends on your being able to understand the other person's point of view, whether or not you agree with it.</div>

agapecarrie · April 2013

It is not offensive to compare, because its the exact same thing. It's not hyperbole in the least. In fact, estimates of 11-17 million killed during holocaust. We are at over 50 million in abortion.

Dehumanizing a person. That is what you are doing. Hitler did it because of someone's race. Abortion promoters, such as yourself, are doing it because of the advancement of medical technology. A person deserves to live depending on how much medical technology has advanced, and not a day under.

Did you even read the link? Did you see the pics of Gosnell? It looks like the holocaust. Dehumanizing a class of people so that they can be killed. They both have a heart beat. They both feel pain.

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