I shouldn't have watched it.

NOLABridesmaid · July 2013

I just saw the clip of the police shooting the dog video. So sad, and I'm not even a huge dog person. It made me kinda teary.

Kuus, I'm not even going to post it, girl.

Oface4eva · July 2013

I heard about this, but I'm not even going to google.

GBCK · July 2013

I was sent a link yesterday and refused to watch.

I didn't have words for the description so I didn't want to try

ReturnOfKuus · July 2013

Yeah, there is no f*cking way I'm watching that.

Jessica41381 · July 2013

I saw it on my fb timeline and I couldn't watch it.

NerdyLucy · July 2013

I watched it and I regret seeing it now. Reading about it is bad enough.

SBmini · July 2013

I saw it by accident while my fiance watched it. It's very sad, I don't recommend you watch it. I think it is very wrong for people to lash out at the police officer for his actions. Yes, things could have gone differently, but given the circumstances, I don't think what he did was uncalled for. He tried to restrain the dog before shooting, and shot from a defensive position while the dog lunged at him. The dog's owner is also quite the trouble maker. He has a number of complaints against the police and has been in altercations with them before. He was there filming the scene to "protect the rights of those involved" but he got to close and refused to back off. His dog died as a result.

Video recap for those who are curious- cops are in the midst of a stand off/hostage situation. People and standing around filming the cops. One of the filmers, the dog owner, gets right up to the cops. He's asked to move back but doesn't so he's arrested- probably for obstruction. The dog freaks out at his owner being arrested, jumps out of the car window and is very aggressive towards the police- barking, lunging and showing his teeth. The cop tries a few times to grab the leash, but on the second or third lunge, he shoots the dog.

I find it hard to fault the police officer

kiddodarling · July 2013

I watched it by accident thinking it was a news story. Then I was like well youtube won't really show someone shooting a poor dog and then bam there it was. I cried for like 15 minutes and had to call DH to have him calm me down a little. I'm a huge dog person and volunteer at my local shelter. From what I saw on the video, though, I say that the dog was not being aggressive towards the police. It seemed like he wanted to go to his owner and find out what was happening. My uncle is a police chief and when I texted him about the video he said he believed that the officer could have used his taser, baton or even shot in the air first. I feel like the cops were in the wrong over all of this, but I don't know the back story on this guy either, but why was he bing arrested when like 5 other people were also videotaping? Thats just my opinion though.

SBmini · July 2013

kiddodarling said:

I watched it by accident thinking it was a news story. Then I was like well youtube won't really show someone shooting a poor dog and then bam there it was. I cried for like 15 minutes and had to call DH to have him calm me down a little. I'm a huge dog person and volunteer at my local shelter. From what I saw on the video, though, I say that the dog was not being aggressive towards the police. It seemed like he wanted to go to his owner and find out what was happening. My uncle is a police chief and when I texted him about the video he said he believed that the officer could have used his taser, baton or even shot in the air first. I feel like the cops were in the wrong over all of this, but I don't know the back story on this guy either, but why was he bing arrested when like 5 other people were also videotaping? Thats just my opinion though.

It was a hostage situation. The guy who was arrested was filming and got too close. He didn't move when he was asked. If you watch closely the police officer tries to grab the leash a few times before he shoots. He tried to restrain the dog, but when the dog lunged at him, he shot.

I have also talked to police officers about this. They have said that given the seriousness of the situation (hostage being held at gunpoint) it isn't that far of a stretch that the police officer was closer to his gun than a non lethal option. Also, apparently pepper spray doesn't act on dogs like it does people. And if you miss with a taser, with an attacking dog only inches away, it's going to result in personal injury.

I'm a dog lover too. I have a rescue, I volunteer at the shelter. But I can't fault the cop for doing what he did. It was a chaotic situation and he didn't have much time to react. It's very unfortunate, but the cop was simply protecting himself from a potentially dangerous situation.

kiddodarling · July 2013

SBmini said:

kiddodarling said:

I watched it by accident thinking it was a news story. Then I was like well youtube won't really show someone shooting a poor dog and then bam there it was. I cried for like 15 minutes and had to call DH to have him calm me down a little. I'm a huge dog person and volunteer at my local shelter. From what I saw on the video, though, I say that the dog was not being aggressive towards the police. It seemed like he wanted to go to his owner and find out what was happening. My uncle is a police chief and when I texted him about the video he said he believed that the officer could have used his taser, baton or even shot in the air first. I feel like the cops were in the wrong over all of this, but I don't know the back story on this guy either, but why was he bing arrested when like 5 other people were also videotaping? Thats just my opinion though.

It was a hostage situation. The guy who was arrested was filming and got too close. He didn't move when he was asked. If you watch closely the police officer tries to grab the leash a few times before he shoots. He tried to restrain the dog, but when the dog lunged at him, he shot.

I have also talked to police officers about this. They have said that given the seriousness of the situation (hostage being held at gunpoint) it isn't that far of a stretch that the police officer was closer to his gun than a non lethal option. Also, apparently pepper spray doesn't act on dogs like it does people. And if you miss with a taser, with an attacking dog only inches away, it's going to result in personal injury.

I'm a dog lover too. I have a rescue, I volunteer at the shelter. But I can't fault the cop for doing what he did. It was a chaotic situation and he didn't have much time to react. It's very unfortunate, but the cop was simply protecting himself from a potentially dangerous situation.

Actually, I guess he was blaring his music from his car and he cursed at cops, thats what the news source I just read said about the guy. I just feel like the cops should have handled the situation better. They saw the dog in the car. They knew it could potentially get out. They could have asked the guy if the dog could get out, if he was dangerous etc etc.

I saw the cop reach for the leash once, but there was 4 cops around they could have all tried to do something. Like I said though the dog was lunging but not aggressively. If a dog like that wants to attack, it will. Its not going to lunge several times without actually attacking. Then it took the officer 4 times to shoot the dog. Once would have done the trick and then you wouldn't have had a dog dying painfully in the streets. Then what the officer said as to why he chose to shoot the dog was just an extremely lame excuse. At least own up to what you did.

I know my dogs would probably do the same thing in this situation, and lord help the person who tries to kill my dogs. I probably love them more than my husband.

(Edited for grammer)

Dreamergirl8812 · July 2013

Random question: Doesn't it seem very, very dangerous to shoot a gun near a hostage situation? I haven't read the story (except here) or watched the video (not gonna), but assuming there was an armed person with hostages, hearing a gun shot might have made him think he was being shot at. What if he killed his hostages?

kiddodarling · July 2013

Dreamergirl8812 said:

Random question: Doesn't it seem very, very dangerous to shoot a gun near a hostage situation? I haven't read the story (except here) or watched the video (not gonna), but assuming there was an armed person with hostages, hearing a gun shot might have made him think he was being shot at. What if he killed his hostages?

I love this! I was wondering the same thing! Cause the guy with the rifle looking gun could have easily hit the dog with the end of it, knocking it out. No gun shots, no dead dog. Everyone's happy!

artbyallie · July 2013

kiddodarling said: Dreamergirl8812 said: Random question: Doesn't it seem very, very dangerous to shoot a gun near a hostage situation? I haven't read the story (except here) or watched the video (not gonna), but assuming there was an armed person with hostages, hearing a gun shot might have made him think he was being shot at. What if he killed his hostages?
I love this! I was wondering the same thing! Cause the guy with the rifle looking gun could have easily hit the dog with the end of it, knocking it out. No gun shots, no dead dog. Everyone's happy!
And the whole thing could've been avoided in the first place by the dog owner, you know, not getting in the way of police trying to do their job in a tense and dangerous situation. So there's that. Not to mention it's incredibly difficult to reliably knock out a human without killing them or doing permanent brain damage, so I'd imagine striking at a dog is a poor choice of action in most situations.

Caveat here that I have not seen and do not intend to watch the video. But I think it's unfair to make cops out to be the villain when it sounds like this man and his dog were impeding their work.

ETA: I am so sick of my quote boxes never freaking working. They show up in my edit box but not on the post.

kiddodarling · July 2013

Of course the whole thing could have been avoided by the dog owner not being an idiot! However, I think the cops made several poor decisions in this whole thing. Especially with a hostage situation going on and the fact that an innocent animal was murdered. The man was not necessarily impeding the cops work nor was the dog. The poor dog was just along for a ride.

SBmini · July 2013

kiddodarling said:

SBmini said:

kiddodarling said:

I watched it by accident thinking it was a news story. Then I was like well youtube won't really show someone shooting a poor dog and then bam there it was. I cried for like 15 minutes and had to call DH to have him calm me down a little. I'm a huge dog person and volunteer at my local shelter. From what I saw on the video, though, I say that the dog was not being aggressive towards the police. It seemed like he wanted to go to his owner and find out what was happening. My uncle is a police chief and when I texted him about the video he said he believed that the officer could have used his taser, baton or even shot in the air first. I feel like the cops were in the wrong over all of this, but I don't know the back story on this guy either, but why was he bing arrested when like 5 other people were also videotaping? Thats just my opinion though.

It was a hostage situation. The guy who was arrested was filming and got too close. He didn't move when he was asked. If you watch closely the police officer tries to grab the leash a few times before he shoots. He tried to restrain the dog, but when the dog lunged at him, he shot.

I have also talked to police officers about this. They have said that given the seriousness of the situation (hostage being held at gunpoint) it isn't that far of a stretch that the police officer was closer to his gun than a non lethal option. Also, apparently pepper spray doesn't act on dogs like it does people. And if you miss with a taser, with an attacking dog only inches away, it's going to result in personal injury.

I'm a dog lover too. I have a rescue, I volunteer at the shelter. But I can't fault the cop for doing what he did. It was a chaotic situation and he didn't have much time to react. It's very unfortunate, but the cop was simply protecting himself from a potentially dangerous situation.

Actually, I guess he was blaring his music from his car and he cursed at cops, thats what the news source I just read said about the guy. I just feel like the cops should have handled the situation better. They saw the dog in the car. They knew it could potentially get out. They could have asked the guy if the dog could get out, if he was dangerous etc etc.

I saw the cop reach for the leash once, but there was 4 cops around they could have all tried to do something. Like I said though the dog was lunging but not aggressively. If a dog like that wants to attack, it will. Its not going to lunge several times without actually attacking. Then it took the officer 4 times to shoot the dog. Once would have done the trick and then you wouldn't have had a dog dying painfully in the streets. Then what the officer said as to why he chose to shoot the dog was just an extremely lame excuse. At least own up to what you did.

I know my dogs would probably do the same thing in this situation, and lord help the person who tries to kill my dogs. I probably love them more than my husband.

(Edited for grammer)

I would not go so far as to assume the police knew the dog could get out. He got out on the side of the car away from the police officers. Based on where they were standing, they likely couldn't tell if the window was open or not. And given the amount of commotion, I doubt anyone thought to check the window.

Again- there was a stand off situation, a guy blasting music and swearing at the cops, and a dog barking and showing his teeth at the cops. There was a lot going on.

kiddodarling · July 2013

SBmini said:

kiddodarling said:

SBmini said:

kiddodarling said:

I watched it by accident thinking it was a news story. Then I was like well youtube won't really show someone shooting a poor dog and then bam there it was. I cried for like 15 minutes and had to call DH to have him calm me down a little. I'm a huge dog person and volunteer at my local shelter. From what I saw on the video, though, I say that the dog was not being aggressive towards the police. It seemed like he wanted to go to his owner and find out what was happening. My uncle is a police chief and when I texted him about the video he said he believed that the officer could have used his taser, baton or even shot in the air first. I feel like the cops were in the wrong over all of this, but I don't know the back story on this guy either, but why was he bing arrested when like 5 other people were also videotaping? Thats just my opinion though.

It was a hostage situation. The guy who was arrested was filming and got too close. He didn't move when he was asked. If you watch closely the police officer tries to grab the leash a few times before he shoots. He tried to restrain the dog, but when the dog lunged at him, he shot.

I have also talked to police officers about this. They have said that given the seriousness of the situation (hostage being held at gunpoint) it isn't that far of a stretch that the police officer was closer to his gun than a non lethal option. Also, apparently pepper spray doesn't act on dogs like it does people. And if you miss with a taser, with an attacking dog only inches away, it's going to result in personal injury.

I'm a dog lover too. I have a rescue, I volunteer at the shelter. But I can't fault the cop for doing what he did. It was a chaotic situation and he didn't have much time to react. It's very unfortunate, but the cop was simply protecting himself from a potentially dangerous situation.

Actually, I guess he was blaring his music from his car and he cursed at cops, thats what the news source I just read said about the guy. I just feel like the cops should have handled the situation better. They saw the dog in the car. They knew it could potentially get out. They could have asked the guy if the dog could get out, if he was dangerous etc etc.

I saw the cop reach for the leash once, but there was 4 cops around they could have all tried to do something. Like I said though the dog was lunging but not aggressively. If a dog like that wants to attack, it will. Its not going to lunge several times without actually attacking. Then it took the officer 4 times to shoot the dog. Once would have done the trick and then you wouldn't have had a dog dying painfully in the streets. Then what the officer said as to why he chose to shoot the dog was just an extremely lame excuse. At least own up to what you did.

I know my dogs would probably do the same thing in this situation, and lord help the person who tries to kill my dogs. I probably love them more than my husband.

(Edited for grammer)

I would not go so far as to assume the police knew the dog could get out. He got out on the side of the car away from the police officers. Based on where they were standing, they likely couldn't tell if the window was open or not. And given the amount of commotion, I doubt anyone thought to check the window.

Again- there was a stand off situation, a guy blasting music and swearing at the cops, and a dog barking and showing his teeth at the cops. There was a lot going on.

The video I watched showed the dog jumping out of the window facing the cops. So they should have been observant.

I shouldn't have watched it.

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