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asking someone else to do a reading - thoughts?

32daisies32daisies member
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edited July 2013 in Wedding Etiquette Forum
I have a question about a reading.

One of our groomsmen doesn't know, now, if he'll be able to make the wedding -- it's a few states away from him -- at all. No transportation, no plans, he can't tell us either way, he can't tell us when he can tell us. It's about 50/50 he'll be there (that's according to him) and honestly, I think I'm going to know whether he will be or not on, you know, the wedding day.

So, okay. Many deep breaths, many remembrances of posts on TK later, and I've said to myself, hey, it doesn't matter. If he's there, he's there, if he's not, the show goes on.

My only question is: we had asked this groomsman to do a reading with one of the bridesmaids. It's a skit from a movie scene, so it takes two of them, and they both said yes, back in the day. It's the kind of thing they wanted to practice beforehand a little, too. (they did. Not me. i did not require rehearsals! lol. They wanted to get together on Skype, or something, and work on it, because they wanted to have fun with it.) And he was all for it, but now he doesn't know if he'll be there, he hasn't responded when she's contacted him about it, and hence, my question is this: Of *course* we would not ask him to "step down", he is in the wedding party no matter what, and there's no discussion on that topic at all. But would it be understandable if we talked to him about asking someone else to do the reading with her instead? Mostly because it doesn't seem fair to her to leave her hanging like that.

I'm truly asking for advice here, and not sold on a course of action either way, so, thoughts?
Edited to say: bad word choice from me. I don't mean "skit" I mean scene. No skits. Just a reading with two people. My misspeak.
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Re: asking someone else to do a reading - thoughts?

  • If this GM can not attend, can you have an alternate reading available for just the BM to read? 
  • I may have the unpopular opinion here, but if he isn't able to even RSVP to the wedding, just tell him you need to know by X date if he can make it or you'll have to put him down as a decline (I just had to do this to a guest that was going to try to convince his four estranged sons to come to the wedding - he has asked to just put then down as yeses), in which case you'll have to find a new reader. I don't think replacing a reader is the same as replacing a WP member. It would be like replacing an officiant or something. Not that a reading is an ESSENTIAL part of a ceremony, but one shouldn't have to change or cancel a reading because of someone else's lack of planning. And it's not just a place-filler role, you know? If I were asked to fill in, I'd have no qualms at all.

    It sounds like you're an educated bride and don't plan on kicking him out or replacing him like so many new brides feel compelled to do - thanks for having a good head on your shoulders!
  • I think it's fine to replace him as a reader.  I'd just let him know that you're still really hoping he can make it and you want him standing up regardless, but since he likely won't know until the last minute you'll need someone else to do the reading.  I agree that it's not the same as replacing a WP member in general.

     

    I like the idea of having a back-up reading that just the BM could do, but it sounds like she wouldn't be really comfortable doing the original reading without a run through so if he DOES show up it puts her in an awkward position of having to do the original reading with no practice.

  • If this GM can not attend, can you have an alternate reading available for just the BM to read? 

    I like this idea.
  • Why are you doing a skit at your wedding?
  • itzMSitzMS member
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    I would 100% skip the skit entirely and let the BM and GM know.

    If BM still wants to read, you can select something alternatively that is not a production.

  • I missed the skit part. I thought they would just be reading. Yeah, skip that - just let/have them read normally.
  • I would not ask someone to fill in for him.  That's insulting to the person who is only good enough to be a replacement reader.  

    I would just have a backup reading for the bridesmaid to do herself, or better yet, just substitute the solo reading for the skit so it's not up in the air.  Also, the skit sounds weird.  
  • Thanks for the replies! My guy feeling was that it wouldn't be terribly offensive to ask someone else to do the reading.

    I'm not sure what some of you mean by a "skit". I'm not asking anyone to perform with props or anything. :) No one will be acting anything out or memorizing lines. We've just chosen as a reading one of the parts from When Harry Met Sally where the couples are talking on the couch, because their story happens to mirror ours. It's special to us, and my FI used it when he proposed, and it's a quote we say often, and so on. YMMV, but it's something we want in our ceremony.

    It would be weird for one person to read both parts, but any one of the wedding party can do it with her. Of course we could just ask someone last minute but it would seem more polite and better planning to do it ahead. I don't think they need to "prepare" but I don't think it's unreasonable of her to want to practice it.
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    32daisies said:
    Thanks for the replies! My guy feeling was that it wouldn't be terribly offensive to ask someone else to do the reading. I'm not sure what some of you mean by a "skit". I'm not asking anyone to perform with props or anything. :) No one will be acting anything out or memorizing lines. We've just chosen as a reading one of the parts from When Harry Met Sally where the couples are talking on the couch, because their story happens to mirror ours. It's special to us, and my FI used it when he proposed, and it's a quote we say often, and so on. YMMV, but it's something we want in our ceremony. It would be weird for one person to read both parts, but any one of the wedding party can do it with her. Of course we could just ask someone last minute but it would seem more polite and better planning to do it ahead. I don't think they need to "prepare" but I don't think it's unreasonable of her to want to practice it.


    You called it a skit in your OP.

    Why can't you just list the quote in your programs or use it in your vows?

    Asking someone to rehearse a skit and read it with your BM is not something a lot of guys would be even comfortable doing...

  • Oh! I used the word skit. My bad. I apologize. But consider that a bad word choice then. I should have said "reading a scene". Mea culpa. No, no production, no props, nothing extra, nothing but reading, just two people.
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  • Can you transcribe said "scene" for me?
  • I did use the wrong word, I just caught that, and tried to clarify my mistake. As I said even initially, no one has been asked to rehearse anything. One of the readers would like to practice ahead of time, which seems reasonable to me.

    I guess I'm not understanding why what reading we use is relevant to the question. I'm not asking whether I should use that as a reading; that's kind of our own call, just as what reading you or anyone else chooses is theirs. Lots of people use nontraditional poems, passages from books, and so forth.

    And everyone involved is happy to do it. There are no guys who have a problem with it. There are no girls with a problem doing it. Everyone is fine with everything. There's just a guy who now can't tell me 100% whether or not he'll be there, and he happens to be our reader. I'm asking if its rude to replace him, since he can't commit to it.
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  • itzMSitzMS member
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    32daisies said:
    I did use the wrong word, I just caught that, and tried to clarify my mistake. As I said even initially, no one has been asked to rehearse anything. One of the readers would like to practice ahead of time, which seems reasonable to me. I guess I'm not understanding why what reading we use is relevant to the question. I'm not asking whether I should use that as a reading; that's kind of our own call, just as what reading you or anyone else chooses is theirs. Lots of people use nontraditional poems, passages from books, and so forth. And everyone involved is happy to do it. There are no guys who have a problem with it. There are no girls with a problem doing it. Everyone is fine with everything. There's just a guy who now can't tell me 100% whether or not he'll be there, and he happens to be our reader. I'm asking if its rude to replace him, since he can't commit to it.

    So you've asked every single member of your bridal party if they'd be okay with acting out a scene from "When Harry Met Sally"?

    Honestly?

    To put things into perspective...I'm 29 and I don't believe I've ever even seen the movie or know any friends who have. It's interesting that your entire bridal party thinks it's a fabulous idea and that you've already asked them to read lines from the movie...but okay...

    Are your guests all familar with the movie?

  • Once again, I am not asking anyone to act out anything. I've said this a number of times.

    I'm sorry but... I really don't mean this to sound snotty, but, why are you hung up (as you seem to be) on what my ceremony's reading is? I get its not to your taste, but it's not your wedding. :) I'm quite a bit older than you, and most people in my circle know it well. I can't see why that matters. I often go to weddings and hear readings I'm not familiar with. I assume the bride and groom chose them because they liked what they said.

    yes, we did tell everyone in the wedding party, since most of our friends are our age, they're more than familiar with it. I don't know if they think it's "fabulous", but they think it's nice. I think you were being sarcastic, and excessively so. I said they were all fine with it, it's not a complicated point.

    I appreciate the advice about replacing the reader, to all who offered. I still hope our GM can make the wedding, but I think it might be best to approach him about the reading.
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  • itzMS said:
    32daisies said:
    I did use the wrong word, I just caught that, and tried to clarify my mistake. As I said even initially, no one has been asked to rehearse anything. One of the readers would like to practice ahead of time, which seems reasonable to me. I guess I'm not understanding why what reading we use is relevant to the question. I'm not asking whether I should use that as a reading; that's kind of our own call, just as what reading you or anyone else chooses is theirs. Lots of people use nontraditional poems, passages from books, and so forth. And everyone involved is happy to do it. There are no guys who have a problem with it. There are no girls with a problem doing it. Everyone is fine with everything. There's just a guy who now can't tell me 100% whether or not he'll be there, and he happens to be our reader. I'm asking if its rude to replace him, since he can't commit to it.

    So you've asked every single member of your bridal party if they'd be okay with acting out a scene from "When Harry Met Sally"?

    Honestly?

    To put things into perspective...I'm 29 and I don't believe I've ever even seen the movie or know any friends who have. It's interesting that your entire bridal party thinks it's a fabulous idea and that you've already asked them to read lines from the movie...but okay...

    Are your guests all familar with the movie?

    She's already made it clear that they aren't going to be acting it out and admitted that skit wasn't the appropriate word choice in her OP.  They will just be reading it. 

    For the record, I'm 25, and I've seen the movie multiple times and so have many of my friends.  It may not be a popular movie amongst your group, but that doesn't mean that it isn't a good fit for the OP's crowd.
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    @libby2483 Okay, thanks.

    Reading movie lines back and forth will likely be much different than any other reading and require "acting" the part of that character.

    I'm just trying to make sure that the OP knows it's not okay to assume someone would be happy to "fill in" to do a reading at the last minute. Public speaking isn't for everyone...especially when it may require some dramatic emphasis.

    Since everyone she knows loves that movie...then it should be super!

     

  • wrigleyvillewrigleyville member
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    She's talking about the scenes with the couples sitting on a couch. It's not an actual movie scene. It's a husband and wife telling the story of how they met, like you'd see in a TV interview. It's just like any of us sitting next to our H on the couch telling people how we met. It's not acted or scripted. It's more documentary-ish. They use these to break up scenes in the movie, so there are 3 or 4 couples featured (and then Harry and Sally at the end, acting like one of those other, regular couples instead of characters in a movie).
  • See, good point. This is why I want to address it ahead of time. Everyone said they'd be happy to help, but some people are more nervous about public speaking than others, you're right. So they might like more than last-minute warning. You might say, "sure, if you want me to read that, I will", but if I come to you the day before and say "omg we need you to read it!" you might feel flustered. I don't want to do that to someone.

    Thanks. :)

    As a side note, I really do appreciate TK for helping me not be a bridezilla. When this GM told us about not being able to commit to being there, hey, I'm human, I was frustrated. But I remembered all the times we give brides advice and remind them you can't ask someone to leave a wedding party, and that it's not worth getting upset over, and it helped a lot. If he's there I'm glad, but if not I'll still be marrying the best guy I know, so that's all that matters.
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