My MOH

Re: My MOH

• SJM7538 member

  

  July 2013

  a few questions...

   

  When she was hired did she agree to a set schedule or particular days? And how far in advance is she asking for the time off?  And is she part time? Does she have a certain amount of hours she HAS to work a week?I worked retail for almost ten years. We got our schedules about two weeks in advance and as long as a time off request was in before the schedule was made and no one else requested a day off then they couldn't deny you the time. I feel like this should or would be similar since usually these businesses have younger college/high school employees.

   

  honestly, if she didn't commit to a certain schedule and she is giving reasonable notice of the days off then I think her boss is just being a prick and I would quit to.

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• itzMS member

  

  July 2013

  When you work in fast food (or retail, etc), it is almost expected that you are available to work weekends.

  Time off is not an entitlement, especially if she's "low-man" on the totem pole and other employees have already requested off.

  She's an adult now...and if she wants to quit her job, that's on her. Please don't try to sway her either way.

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• AddieCake member

  

  July 2013

  bubblegum1309 said:

  I want to take a minute to share a dilemma my MOH is having. First I want to say she is my little sister (8 years younger then me) and I love her so much. As we get older we become better and better friends (we have always had a great relationship, but for a long time I had more of a mothering role to her).

  
  

  First of all she can be unreliable and flaky sometimes... but that's who she is! lol I don't care about that and I know I need her by my side on the day I get married. Well since I have asked her (even though we had always promised to be each other MOH's for as long as I can remember) she has been AMAZING. She came to venue appointments with my mom and I (and asked some great questions while we were there). Went dress shopping for me every time we went. Helped me with DIY projects. She knows every detail of the wedding, this has been such a fun experience together!

  
  

  Then she rallied my other BM's and threw me an AMAZING shower last week. I was so touched by the thought and detail they put into it. And I have heard whispering of the bachelorette as well.

  
  

  The dilemma? My sister just graduated highschool and got a summer job working at the local Subway. Before they hired her she explained her commitment in the wedding party and that she would need the shower, bachelorette, rehearsal and wedding days all off (this is over a period of 3 months).

  
  

  Well she got the job and they love her (I used to work there when I was younger so I prepped her on a bunch of stuff to do to make her look good!). She asked for our family camping trip off and they gave her that time. Then when she put in for the shower, they said no. She had to work. It's just a shower and it's not important. That made me so mad! It's not up to them to decide what is important to her! I wanted her there because SHE wanted to be there! She spent so much time, money and effort to do something so special for me. She was able to get someone to switch her shift and she went into work after the shower (exhausted of course because she stayed up late the night before finishing everything up).

  
  

  Now she just asked for the Bachelorette off and they said no again!!! That she has some nerve for a new person to ask for so much time off! Again this is not important they say.  We picked the bachelorette location based on her (a city with 18+ bars since she is only 19). Again, I want her there because she WANTS to be there! She is my best friend and seeing her work so hard and be there for me through all this and now can't go, breaks my heart. She is thinking about quitting Subway now, which I can't support! She's afraid they will give her a hard time for the rehearsal and maybe even the wedding now. They have been jerks about it the whole time (even though way back at the beginning of this she TOLD them before they hired her) to the point the manager made her cry.

  
  

  Ahhhh.... so not sure if there is even advice to be given, this may have just been more of a vent. Basically every other post on here are people complaining about their WP and how to kick them out. And I LOVE my entire bridal party, each one is amazing and supportive and I can't wait to celebrate and have them all by my side!!!

  You're mad and surprised they won't let her take time off for parties?  Why does everyone think people can just get all these days off from work to attend wedding-related parties and whatnot?

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

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• SJM7538 member

  

  July 2013

  When you work in fast food (or retail, etc), it is almost expected that you are available to work weekends.

  Time off is not an entitlement, especially if she's "low-man" on the totem pole and other employees have already requested off.

  She's an adult now...and if she wants to quit her job, that's on her. Please don't try to sway her either way.

   

   

   I do agree with this, again bc I did retail for a long time, both as the "low man" and as a supervisor. I worked almost every weekend. I also thing its unreasonable for your boss to expect your employees to work every weekend and as long as a time off is given in a reasonable amount of time then it should not be an issue to schedule someone else.

   

  OP, if your sister is saying "hey BTW I need next weekend off" then no I can't imagine she would be granted that request. But if its three or four weeks in advance I can't imagine what reason they would have for not giving her the time off, unless she is their only employee.

  And just an add on to my previous comment - Quitting over the bachelorette party may be jumping the gun. But if she doesn't get the time off for the rehearsal dinner and wedding then yes I would most def. be quitting. Sorry, I'm not going to miss my sisters wedding for a 6 hour shift at Subway.

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• SJM7538 member

  

  July 2013

  bubblegum1309 said:

  I want to take a minute to share a dilemma my MOH is having. First I want to say she is my little sister (8 years younger then me) and I love her so much. As we get older we become better and better friends (we have always had a great relationship, but for a long time I had more of a mothering role to her).

  
  

  First of all she can be unreliable and flaky sometimes... but that's who she is! lol I don't care about that and I know I need her by my side on the day I get married. Well since I have asked her (even though we had always promised to be each other MOH's for as long as I can remember) she has been AMAZING. She came to venue appointments with my mom and I (and asked some great questions while we were there). Went dress shopping for me every time we went. Helped me with DIY projects. She knows every detail of the wedding, this has been such a fun experience together!

  
  

  Then she rallied my other BM's and threw me an AMAZING shower last week. I was so touched by the thought and detail they put into it. And I have heard whispering of the bachelorette as well.

  
  

  The dilemma? My sister just graduated highschool and got a summer job working at the local Subway. Before they hired her she explained her commitment in the wedding party and that she would need the shower, bachelorette, rehearsal and wedding days all off (this is over a period of 3 months).

  
  

  Well she got the job and they love her (I used to work there when I was younger so I prepped her on a bunch of stuff to do to make her look good!). She asked for our family camping trip off and they gave her that time. Then when she put in for the shower, they said no. She had to work. It's just a shower and it's not important. That made me so mad! It's not up to them to decide what is important to her! I wanted her there because SHE wanted to be there! She spent so much time, money and effort to do something so special for me. She was able to get someone to switch her shift and she went into work after the shower (exhausted of course because she stayed up late the night before finishing everything up).

  
  

  Now she just asked for the Bachelorette off and they said no again!!! That she has some nerve for a new person to ask for so much time off! Again this is not important they say.  We picked the bachelorette location based on her (a city with 18+ bars since she is only 19). Again, I want her there because she WANTS to be there! She is my best friend and seeing her work so hard and be there for me through all this and now can't go, breaks my heart. She is thinking about quitting Subway now, which I can't support! She's afraid they will give her a hard time for the rehearsal and maybe even the wedding now. They have been jerks about it the whole time (even though way back at the beginning of this she TOLD them before they hired her) to the point the manager made her cry.

  
  

  Ahhhh.... so not sure if there is even advice to be given, this may have just been more of a vent. Basically every other post on here are people complaining about their WP and how to kick them out. And I LOVE my entire bridal party, each one is amazing and supportive and I can't wait to celebrate and have them all by my side!!!

  Also, when she interviewed what was the employer's response to this? And did she give them dates at that point in time?
  

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• itzMS member

  

  July 2013

  An employer can cancel previously approved leave. I work in a corporate job, and this even happens here from time to time. It's annoying as hell, but it's part of being an employee.

  A lot of people don't get this. Vacation/time-off isn't an entitlement.

  Turnover happens a lot in the fast food industry. It's possible they need her to cover the shifts, but would've given her the time off if at all possible. She just has to suck it up or not work there.

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• HisGirlFriday13 member

  

  July 2013

  I've worked retail, and even if we asked off in advance, we weren't guaranteed the time off. Our managers had to show that people were working certain numbers of hours per week, and my being off meant someone else would have to work and maybe they had a conflict.

  
  

  I just started a new job on Monday -- and I get married in 79 days. My boss OFFERED me unpaid time off, and I took it. But I didn't ask, and I didn't expect it. It's a little presumptuous of you to assume that your sister's attendance at ALL of your pre-wedding events counts as "important" to her bosses.

  
  

  And if she quits over this, then she's dumb. I'm sorry, but quitting a job when you don't have other skills to fall back on, or to use to find another job, is a bad idea. Let's say she does quit. If/when she gets an interview at another place, and they ask her, "Why did you leave Subway?" what is she going to say? "Oh, I left because they wouldn't give me the weekend off to go drink and party at my sister's bachelorette party."

  
  

  Yeah, no.

  

  
  

  
  

  I'm gonna go with 'not my circus, not my monkeys.'

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• Bubblegum5586 member

  

  July 2013 edited July 2013

  SJM7538 said:

  a few questions...

   

  When she was hired did she agree to a set schedule or particular days? And how far in advance is she asking for the time off?  And is she part time? Does she have a certain amount of hours she HAS to work a week?I worked retail for almost ten years. We got our schedules about two weeks in advance and as long as a time off request was in before the schedule was made and no one else requested a day off then they couldn't deny you the time. I feel like this should or would be similar since usually these businesses have younger college/high school employees.

   

  honestly, if she didn't commit to a certain schedule and she is giving reasonable notice of the days off then I think her boss is just being a prick and I would quit to.

  Yea the specifics are what you think. Mostly highschool and college kids. No set schedules, no set hours. The bachelorette is almost 4 weeks away so she gave ample time to ask.

  HisGirlFriday13 said:

  I've worked retail, and even if we asked off in advance, we weren't guaranteed the time off. Our managers had to show that people were working certain numbers of hours per week, and my being off meant someone else would have to work and maybe they had a conflict.

  
  

  I just started a new job on Monday -- and I get married in 79 days. My boss OFFERED me unpaid time off, and I took it. But I didn't ask, and I didn't expect it. It's a little presumptuous of you to assume that your sister's attendance at ALL of your pre-wedding events counts as "important" to her bosses.

  
  

  And if she quits over this, then she's dumb. I'm sorry, but quitting a job when you don't have other skills to fall back on, or to use to find another job, is a bad idea. Let's say she does quit. If/when she gets an interview at another place, and they ask her, "Why did you leave Subway?" what is she going to say? "Oh, I left because they wouldn't give me the weekend off to go drink and party at my sister's bachelorette party."

  
  

  Yeah, no.

  Hmmmm this sounds a little presumptuous.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Anyways. It's 4 days she asked for over a period of 3 months. All I am saying is that it stinks she can't come....

  
  

  
  

  
  

  

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• Jen4948 member

  

  July 2013

  Sometimes people can't get time off from work to attend parties, whether or not they're wedding-related.
  
  It's just life-not a personal smack at you.  Don't take it that way.
  

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• wittykitty14 member

  

  July 2013

  That's a bummer.  But it's one of those things-bosses aren't required to give you time-off.  I think your sister should let the b-party go, and focus on making sure she can attend the rehearsal and wedding itself.  It's very possible they'll say no to the rehearsal too, but they'd be more likely to give her the day off for that instead of a b-party.

  Yeah, stuff like this stinks, but everyone has to deal with it.  I hope it works out though!

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• SJM7538 member

  

  July 2013

  bubblegum1309 said:

  SJM7538 said:

  a few questions...

   

  When she was hired did she agree to a set schedule or particular days? And how far in advance is she asking for the time off?  And is she part time? Does she have a certain amount of hours she HAS to work a week?I worked retail for almost ten years. We got our schedules about two weeks in advance and as long as a time off request was in before the schedule was made and no one else requested a day off then they couldn't deny you the time. I feel like this should or would be similar since usually these businesses have younger college/high school employees.

   

  honestly, if she didn't commit to a certain schedule and she is giving reasonable notice of the days off then I think her boss is just being a prick and I would quit to.

  Yea the specifics are what you think. Mostly highschool and college kids. No set schedules, no set hours. The bachelorette is almost 4 weeks away so she gave ample time to ask.

  HisGirlFriday13 said:

  I've worked retail, and even if we asked off in advance, we weren't guaranteed the time off. Our managers had to show that people were working certain numbers of hours per week, and my being off meant someone else would have to work and maybe they had a conflict.

  
  

  I just started a new job on Monday -- and I get married in 79 days. My boss OFFERED me unpaid time off, and I took it. But I didn't ask, and I didn't expect it. It's a little presumptuous of you to assume that your sister's attendance at ALL of your pre-wedding events counts as "important" to her bosses.

  
  

  And if she quits over this, then she's dumb. I'm sorry, but quitting a job when you don't have other skills to fall back on, or to use to find another job, is a bad idea. Let's say she does quit. If/when she gets an interview at another place, and they ask her, "Why did you leave Subway?" what is she going to say? "Oh, I left because they wouldn't give me the weekend off to go drink and party at my sister's bachelorette party."

  
  

  Yeah, no.

  Hmmmm this sounds a little presumptuous.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Anyways. It's 4 days she asked for over a period of 3 months. All I am saying is that it stinks she can't come....

  
  OP, are there other factors coming into play? Are they short on staff? I understand being expected to work weekends and not always get days off in this type of job. But IMO if she gave that much notice AND told them before she took the job then I think her employer is being unreasonable. Unless there is something you're unaware of, like every other employee asked for that day off, then I think they should be accomodating her request.

  Like I said, IDK if I would quit over the bachelorette party, but if my boss told me I coudn't attend my sisters wedding with giving that much notice then I really don't think I would want to work for someone like that.

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• AJuliaNJ member

  

  July 2013

  I agree with @SJM7538. Your sister did all the things you are supposed to do when accepting a new job when you have prescheduled days off. She gave ample time. Subway isn't holding up their part of the bargain by letting her have off the days she told them about from the start. Perhaps she could negotiate to leave early or come late so she can enjoy part of the time at the shower or b-party. Or negotiate to go to one or the other? 

  
  

  I wouldn't get involved in her decision to quit or not to quit. I wouldn't want to push her one way and have her resent her decision. 

  
  

  In high school, I worked for a restaurant. They were also @ssholes about days off, and just in general (screaming at employees and making minimum wage cashiers put their own money in the register if they were short).  When I look back, I wonder why I didn't just quit. Jobs like that are a dime a dozen. I should have never had to miss anything due to a high school job. I don't say this flippantly--I had to pay all of my own living expenses--not housing, but everything else--and realize this might be more than just some extra spending money for your sister. I'm just saying that if she walked down the street to Blimpies or Chipotle, I'm sure they would have an equivalent job she could start within days.

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• Viczaesar member

  

  July 2013

  bubblegum1309 said:

  SJM7538 said:

  a few questions...

   

  When she was hired did she agree to a set schedule or particular days? And how far in advance is she asking for the time off?  And is she part time? Does she have a certain amount of hours she HAS to work a week?I worked retail for almost ten years. We got our schedules about two weeks in advance and as long as a time off request was in before the schedule was made and no one else requested a day off then they couldn't deny you the time. I feel like this should or would be similar since usually these businesses have younger college/high school employees.

   

  honestly, if she didn't commit to a certain schedule and she is giving reasonable notice of the days off then I think her boss is just being a prick and I would quit to.

  Yea the specifics are what you think. Mostly highschool and college kids. No set schedules, no set hours. The bachelorette is almost 4 weeks away so she gave ample time to ask.

  HisGirlFriday13 said:

  I've worked retail, and even if we asked off in advance, we weren't guaranteed the time off. Our managers had to show that people were working certain numbers of hours per week, and my being off meant someone else would have to work and maybe they had a conflict.

  
  

  I just started a new job on Monday -- and I get married in 79 days. My boss OFFERED me unpaid time off, and I took it. But I didn't ask, and I didn't expect it. It's a little presumptuous of you to assume that your sister's attendance at ALL of your pre-wedding events counts as "important" to her bosses.

  
  

  And if she quits over this, then she's dumb. I'm sorry, but quitting a job when you don't have other skills to fall back on, or to use to find another job, is a bad idea. Let's say she does quit. If/when she gets an interview at another place, and they ask her, "Why did you leave Subway?" what is she going to say? "Oh, I left because they wouldn't give me the weekend off to go drink and party at my sister's bachelorette party."

  
  

  Yeah, no.

  Hmmmm this sounds a little presumptuous.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Anyways. It's 4 days she asked for over a period of 3 months. All I am saying is that it stinks she can't come....

  Presumptuous? 
  

  
  
  
  

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• Viczaesar member

  

  July 2013

  Frankly, I think she went wrong in asking for your family camping trip off on top of all of the wedding events, and asking for that first. 
  

  
  
  
  

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• Bubblegum5586 member

  

  July 2013

  Viczaesar said:

  bubblegum1309 said:

  SJM7538 said:

  a few questions...

   

  When she was hired did she agree to a set schedule or particular days? And how far in advance is she asking for the time off?  And is she part time? Does she have a certain amount of hours she HAS to work a week?I worked retail for almost ten years. We got our schedules about two weeks in advance and as long as a time off request was in before the schedule was made and no one else requested a day off then they couldn't deny you the time. I feel like this should or would be similar since usually these businesses have younger college/high school employees.

   

  honestly, if she didn't commit to a certain schedule and she is giving reasonable notice of the days off then I think her boss is just being a prick and I would quit to.

  Yea the specifics are what you think. Mostly highschool and college kids. No set schedules, no set hours. The bachelorette is almost 4 weeks away so she gave ample time to ask.

  HisGirlFriday13 said:

  I've worked retail, and even if we asked off in advance, we weren't guaranteed the time off. Our managers had to show that people were working certain numbers of hours per week, and my being off meant someone else would have to work and maybe they had a conflict.

  
  

  I just started a new job on Monday -- and I get married in 79 days. My boss OFFERED me unpaid time off, and I took it. But I didn't ask, and I didn't expect it. It's a little presumptuous of you to assume that your sister's attendance at ALL of your pre-wedding events counts as "important" to her bosses.

  
  

  And if she quits over this, then she's dumb. I'm sorry, but quitting a job when you don't have other skills to fall back on, or to use to find another job, is a bad idea. Let's say she does quit. If/when she gets an interview at another place, and they ask her, "Why did you leave Subway?" what is she going to say? "Oh, I left because they wouldn't give me the weekend off to go drink and party at my sister's bachelorette party."

  
  

  Yeah, no.

  Hmmmm this sounds a little presumptuous.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Anyways. It's 4 days she asked for over a period of 3 months. All I am saying is that it stinks she can't come....

  Presumptuous? 
  

  Are you asking what presumptuous means?

  
  

  
  

  
  

  

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• NYCBruin member

  

  July 2013

  Viczaesar said:

  Frankly, I think she went wrong in asking for your family camping trip off on top of all of the wedding events, and asking for that first. 
  

  I agree with this.  Honestly, to me that is a LOT of requests for time off within a short period of time.  I'm not surprised they didn't give her all the time off.

  
  

  When I was in high school I had a retail job, I was able to get off the night of Prom after asking months in advance.  Even then, I was still scheduled for a 5:00am shift the next day because that was the day they were doing inventory and needed all hands on deck.

  
  

  Now with my job I don't really ever get time off.  Even if I take vacation, I have to bring my blackberry/laptop with me and probably have to check in a few times a day.  That's life.

  
  

  I would suggest your sister ask her co-workers if they'd be willing to swap shifts with her.  That's really the only thing she can do.  

  Don't worry guys, I have the Wedding Police AND the Whambulance on speed dial!

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• Bubblegum5586 member

  

  July 2013

  NYCBruin said:

  Viczaesar said:

  Frankly, I think she went wrong in asking for your family camping trip off on top of all of the wedding events, and asking for that first. 
  

  I agree with this.  Honestly, to me that is a LOT of requests for time off within a short period of time.  I'm not surprised they didn't give her all the time off.

  
  

  When I was in high school I had a retail job, I was able to get off the night of Prom after asking months in advance.  Even then, I was still scheduled for a 5:00am shift the next day because that was the day they were doing inventory and needed all hands on deck.

  
  

  Now with my job I don't really ever get time off.  Even if I take vacation, I have to bring my blackberry/laptop with me and probably have to check in a few times a day.  That's life.

  
  

  I would suggest your sister ask her co-workers if they'd be willing to swap shifts with her.  That's really the only thing she can do.  

  Yes, we all agree with this. My sister regrets that now. She thought she was all set since she already told them about the wedding stuff before. Unfortunately that ship has sailed

  
  

  
  

  I know there is not too much that can be done at this point, again I guess this was more of a vent. I also just wanted to share what a great sister and MOH she is and how blessed I am to have her in my life

  
  

  Thank you for the support  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  

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• Grabows14 member

  

  July 2013

  @nycbruin 100% agree with you, if she can find someone to cover for her there should be 0 issue... At least that's how it worked at blockbuster (rip)

  

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• AllieBear725 member

  

  July 2013

  I loved working at BB. 

  
  

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• Viczaesar member

  

  July 2013

  bubblegum1309 said:

  Viczaesar said:

  bubblegum1309 said:

  SJM7538 said:

  a few questions...

   

  When she was hired did she agree to a set schedule or particular days? And how far in advance is she asking for the time off?  And is she part time? Does she have a certain amount of hours she HAS to work a week?I worked retail for almost ten years. We got our schedules about two weeks in advance and as long as a time off request was in before the schedule was made and no one else requested a day off then they couldn't deny you the time. I feel like this should or would be similar since usually these businesses have younger college/high school employees.

   

  honestly, if she didn't commit to a certain schedule and she is giving reasonable notice of the days off then I think her boss is just being a prick and I would quit to.

  Yea the specifics are what you think. Mostly highschool and college kids. No set schedules, no set hours. The bachelorette is almost 4 weeks away so she gave ample time to ask.

  HisGirlFriday13 said:

  I've worked retail, and even if we asked off in advance, we weren't guaranteed the time off. Our managers had to show that people were working certain numbers of hours per week, and my being off meant someone else would have to work and maybe they had a conflict.

  
  

  I just started a new job on Monday -- and I get married in 79 days. My boss OFFERED me unpaid time off, and I took it. But I didn't ask, and I didn't expect it. It's a little presumptuous of you to assume that your sister's attendance at ALL of your pre-wedding events counts as "important" to her bosses.

  
  

  And if she quits over this, then she's dumb. I'm sorry, but quitting a job when you don't have other skills to fall back on, or to use to find another job, is a bad idea. Let's say she does quit. If/when she gets an interview at another place, and they ask her, "Why did you leave Subway?" what is she going to say? "Oh, I left because they wouldn't give me the weekend off to go drink and party at my sister's bachelorette party."

  
  

  Yeah, no.

  Hmmmm this sounds a little presumptuous.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Anyways. It's 4 days she asked for over a period of 3 months. All I am saying is that it stinks she can't come....

  Presumptuous? 
  

  Are you asking what presumptuous means?

  No, I'm asking why you think the bolded is presumptuous. 
  

  
  
  
  

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• Summer2011Bride member

  

  July 2013

  I think she should have decided to EITHER ask off for the family trip OR all your wedding festivities. And even then, she wouldn't be guaranteed all the days off, but asking for a whole week PLUS, what, 4 days for your wedding stuff? That's a lot of time off when she just started working somewhere. I honestly don't blame them for telling her she can't take all that time.
  
  I would stay out of her decision to quit or not. If I was her, I probably wouldn't. But what I would do is ask off for the rehearsal/wedding NOW, as well as talk to some of her other co-workers preemptively to see if, should she get put on the schedule for the wedding day, someone would be willing to switch shifts.
  

  
  
  
  
  

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• Bubblegum5586 member

  

  July 2013

  Viczaesar said:

  bubblegum1309 said:

  Viczaesar said:

  bubblegum1309 said:

  SJM7538 said:

  a few questions...

   

  When she was hired did she agree to a set schedule or particular days? And how far in advance is she asking for the time off?  And is she part time? Does she have a certain amount of hours she HAS to work a week?I worked retail for almost ten years. We got our schedules about two weeks in advance and as long as a time off request was in before the schedule was made and no one else requested a day off then they couldn't deny you the time. I feel like this should or would be similar since usually these businesses have younger college/high school employees.

   

  honestly, if she didn't commit to a certain schedule and she is giving reasonable notice of the days off then I think her boss is just being a prick and I would quit to.

  Yea the specifics are what you think. Mostly highschool and college kids. No set schedules, no set hours. The bachelorette is almost 4 weeks away so she gave ample time to ask.

  HisGirlFriday13 said:

  I've worked retail, and even if we asked off in advance, we weren't guaranteed the time off. Our managers had to show that people were working certain numbers of hours per week, and my being off meant someone else would have to work and maybe they had a conflict.

  
  

  I just started a new job on Monday -- and I get married in 79 days. My boss OFFERED me unpaid time off, and I took it. But I didn't ask, and I didn't expect it. It's a little presumptuous of you to assume that your sister's attendance at ALL of your pre-wedding events counts as "important" to her bosses.

  
  

  And if she quits over this, then she's dumb. I'm sorry, but quitting a job when you don't have other skills to fall back on, or to use to find another job, is a bad idea. Let's say she does quit. If/when she gets an interview at another place, and they ask her, "Why did you leave Subway?" what is she going to say? "Oh, I left because they wouldn't give me the weekend off to go drink and party at my sister's bachelorette party."

  
  

  Yeah, no.

  Hmmmm this sounds a little presumptuous.

  
  

  
  

  
  

  Anyways. It's 4 days she asked for over a period of 3 months. All I am saying is that it stinks she can't come....

  Presumptuous? 
  

  Are you asking what presumptuous means?

  No, I'm asking why you think the bolded is presumptuous. 
  

  Oh sorry for the misunderstanding. She does have skills to fall back on, she went to trade school and has a trade in welding. She decided not to go down that route, work an easy 20 hrs a week this summer and start college in the fall for education. I guess it would be easy to assume the average recent grad wouldn't have skills... but she does.

  
  

  And I know it sounds like a lot of time off, and as I mentioned before she regrets the camping trip, she thought she was all set since she already asked the wedding time off, and this was 3 week days she asked for. They only give 20 hours a week to the employees so she really only works 3-4 days a week. So there is 3-4 days a week she doesn't get any hours and she was hoping those days could end up being the days she needed off  when they did the scheduale (since there is no set schedule as I mentioned before). 

  
  

  
  

  
  

  
  

  

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