Wedding Woes

Mom won't take no for an answer re: church wedding

My parents are very religious and conservative. Like tea party member, the Catholic church has gone downhill since they stopped speaking exclusively in Latin religious/conservative. I am not. I respect it, but it's just not me or FI. Neither of us believe in a deity of any sort. 

Thankfully though my parents do love my fiancee and are excited that we're getting married. One of the first things that my mom asked was whether we'd get married in a church, while FI was talking about something else. We both said no and the conversation continued. My mom seemed to be okay with that and I thought, phew, okay no more of that. That was easy enough. 

Well when things seem too good to be true...

Not long after we went to check out some venues and I mentioned something about cost and she said brightly, "well you know you can get married in the church for free!" The rest of our visit was sprinkled throughout with many other not so subtle hints. She was delighted to learn that FI was baptized as a baby as was I, eliminating some hassle from the process of getting married Catholic, and obviously this means we should totally do it. But she'd never tell us what to do and it's our day and we need to do what we're comfortable with. 

Followed by emails after we left. She said more about getting married at the church, including anecdotes about lovely weddings of acquaintances that she's been to since I stopped going to church and how we don't need to feel bad about getting married in a church even if we don't intend on ever going again and that people do it all the time. 

Then she mentioned something about a "wedding planning DVD" that she'd send. I was like okay mom, whatever makes you feel helpful even though we have this crazy internet thing these days. But I figured worst case it would have really dated attire or something.

Well I got it today. It's not your general wedding guide. It's called I Do: Keys to a Happy Marriage. Okay, not too bad. But the back description syas "Addressed to all those aiming to marry in the Catholic church" and includes chapter titles like "Relationships, Without Sex?", "Marriage? What For?" and "Can There Be Happiness without Values?"

Like I said, I have respect for the church and do not want to hurt any feelings, but do not identify with it at all. The two of us getting married in a church would be as ridiculous as them getting married on an elephant in India. For one, I feel it is disrespectful to use a church and its services to get married when you aren't part of it. For two, I have always envisioned getting married outside and that isn't possible the Catholic way (unless I went with my mom's suggestion that we do the official part ahead of time at the church and then a PPD reenacting it outside later- yep she's evidently quite hellbent on this!). For three, that's just not who we are. We aren't religious, we aren't spiritual, we dislike being in a church and we identify as strongly with that as anyone else does with being Christian or what have you. 

We haven't led her on at all. We made it very clear from the get go that this is not on the table. I would rather do a Vegas or courthouse wedding than a church one. I guess this is a rant more than anything but I suppose it wouldn't hurt to hear similar stories or hints as to how to get her to let it go. My sis had the big fat church wedding so it's not like this is her only chance to see her daughter get married just the way she always dreamed. 

FTR, we're paying for it, so that's not a factor. I really don't think it'll get to a point where they'll refuse to go or anything like that, but I would really like to put a stop to this as pleasantly as possible. 
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Re: Mom won't take no for an answer re: church wedding

  • No pay= no say! Just keep repeating this to yourself.

    I understand that you do not want to hurt your mum's feelings or be disrespectful of her beliefs, but you need to remember that this is your wedding, not hers. Next time she says something, just say "Mum, you keep mentioning getting married in the church. I understand that it has special meaning to you, but as I have said before, we will not be getting married in a church so please do not bring it up again. I consider this matter closed". Ignore her further Church hints and then "bean dip" her whenever she brings it up again. Eventually she will get the clue.

    Just try to ignore everything else (the emails etc)- I have gone through similar family pressures around my wedding. I came up with a silly mantra to just repeat to myself in my head to not get upset or worked up. If you do not react to it, I promise she will let it go. You know what you want, and it isn't a church. Soon enough this will all be over. Just hang in there!

  • When your mom brings u the church stuff, change the topic. Maybe you can involve her in other details like the flowers or food or music choices. You need to stop discussing the ceremony. When you pick a venue and she mentions the church you tell her "FI and I are getting married at X." and change the topic.
  • You need to nip this in the bud.  B/c this is going to keep happening.  What about when you have kids?  The baptism stuff will just start then, along with where will your kids learn their morals.  Pushy religious people are the farkin' worst.  She might be perfectly lovely, but I always imagine the shrieking beginning the closer you get to the wedding.

    "Mom, we're not having the wedding in a church.  Respect my beliefs, like I choose to respect yours and stop asking or implying.  You are creating a problem in our relationship".  Repeat ad infinitum.  I wouldn't bean dip with this, I'd end conversations each time it's brought up until she stops.  She needs to understand that she has to stop trying to push her faith onto you.  
  • Good point about the kids. If they ever want to go to church I will happily take them myself but I'm not going to go baptize them when they don't even know wtf is going on but I'm sure I'm going to hear all about that. 

    This has mostly been via email and letters so I've just been ignoring it but I guess it isn't enough. I don't know if I should reply that way via text but certainly over the phone. She knows what place we want to go to and hopefully once the money's put down and the officiant is picked she'll give it up. Hopefully. 

    Ugh, moms can be so weird. One of my best friends had a very religious wedding but her mom still gave the guilt trips and waterworks because it was in a nice reception hall in a museum, not a church and made planning for my friend miserable.

    When we got engaged I'd hoped that my parents would help with the wedding financially but now I'm like NOPE we better do this ourselves if it's this bad and we haven't even asked!
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  • I would definitely broach this in person, probably in a face-to-face conversation first.  Then, I'd repeat it in every medium that she attempts to broach it. I'd be polite and firm, make sure not to act exasperated or rude. 

  • She's not really being very respectful of you and your FI, is she?
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  • have you considered starting your own church and getting married there?

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  • I'm on my 4th rodeo as a MOB and I think you need to be crystal clear, nip this in the bud, and tell her, firmly, that you want her to stop with the comments, innuendos, and DVD's because you will not be married in the Catholic Church.  Let her know it is affecting the relationship and you don't want that to happen.  Be direct, firm, and a bit gentle, but talk to her now.
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