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I don't want my high IQ child to lead a high IQ educational life.

Dear Prudence,
As a first-grader I was given an IQ test, scored more than 160 and was declared a “genius.” This led to years of heightened expectations, profound failures, disappointed teachers and family, and ostracism (I was skipped two grades and did not fit in socially.) I eventually dropped out of high school during my freshman year. I later managed to successfully continue my education and got a graduate degree. I’m basically happy, but not a highly successful person. My family was abusive, and I have a weird personality, but the “genius” treatment didn’t help. I’m now married and have a 4-year old daughter. Because she was somewhat shy and anti-social, we were advised to have her evaluated for autism spectrum disorder. They said she doesn’t have that, but she was given an IQ test. The psychologist literally came out to the waiting area shouting that she was “a genius!” I had a PTSD reaction to this, bundled her up and fled. I have not mentioned any of this to my husband. He was also labeled a genius at a young age, failed miserably in school, and has had a largely unsuccessful career. But he’s proud of his genius label and does not see it as part of his later problems. I fear that he would be boastful to his large and very competitive family and impose some of the heightened expectations on her that we both suffered from. Next year my daughter will begin kindergarten and I just learned that our district has a nearby magnet for students with exceptionally high IQs. My instinct is to keep my daughter far away from the school psychologist and the tiger mommies and daddies around that pressure cooker. I am not in the habit of keeping secrets from my husband or denying my child opportunities, so I’m feeling guilty. I also feel that once the cat is out of the bag, there’s little hope of normalcy for my daughter’s childhood. She's a happy little kid right now. Advice?

—Just Wanting the Best

Re: I don't want my high IQ child to lead a high IQ educational life.

  • Talk to your husband, dont hide this from him. Tell him how you were affected by the label, and even though your daughter is smart you wish for her to live a normal childhood. Tell him you dont want her skipping grades or telling the school at all. However if she is struggling in school she is probably bored and needs to move to higher level stuff.

     

    Nothing is ever solved with deciet - communicate as a family.

  • Don't hold your kid back, @Mrs.Conn23!!
  • Right, because it's definitely in the kid's favor to not be intellectually stimulated in school because of the parent's hang-ups. 

    - Not allowed to skip grades because I was too shy and anti-social as well and somehow managed to not be weird and ended up somewhat successful in life

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  • Oh, FFS MrsConn, get thy jeenyus booty to some therapy and stop overlaying your life on everyone else.
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    Get some therapy and get your kid whatever is best for HER.

  • I would tell your husband and also about your concerns.

    Being smart is not a cursed life, but as you know it's not a guarantee for success or happiness either. Normalcy is possible but don't squash education either. It would be a shame for her to miss out on scholarships and things because you emphasized that education is unimportant or will ruin her life or something. I know someone who is pretty much being paid to get her master's because her brain is a major commodity to the school and she very much is working it in her favor. 

    I don't know what my IQ is but at some point as a young kid I was labeled as being Pretty Smart. My parents handled it pretty well. I was expected to take advanced classes and work hard and all but it wasn't super pushed. Others seem to think that because they're smart they shouldn't have to do anything. IQ only means so much if you don't apply it. 

    I hope that you're supportive of her and her choices and encourage her. That would be the same whether she were a genius or mentally disabled. Help her live to her full potential. You had a bad experience but I'm assuming you aren't planning on being abusive to her, so she can have a very different experience. A genius label is not a harbinger of doom if handled well. It's considered a gift because it is one.
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  • Why put a genius label on a kid in the second grade? What happened to old fashion, "bright."
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  • 27 years in all areas of Special Education (profound to gifted) let me weigh in on this.  Her/your/your husband's high IQs are not the source of the problem, how you/others handle it may be.  Children, even those in the genius category, need social skills and the opportunity to socialize with same age (not same intelligence) peers.  They need sports, or scouting, or art classes, or whatever extracurricular activities interest them to help them become healthy well rounded people.  The social aspect is often the missing link for our special populations.  Everybody gets so focused on the academic needs that the "human" aspect gets neglected.  On the genius end of the spectrum, the push to enrich and accelerate becomes so all-consuming, that the child misses out on some really great parts of her life.  When parents of middle school children start asking about magnet or I.B. programs for high school, I push for "regular" high school with A.P. classes.  They don't need the pressure of graduating from high school with two years of college already completed.  They need to be kids with normal, healthy expectations and social lives. 
  • I have a slight problem that you think you and your husband have led unsuccessful careers. You really need to evaluate your life and change that mentality. Kids pick up on that, and that will affect the way they perceive their success.

    That being said, I had a similar situation in my life. Once you realize that these kids are not you and you aren't your parents, you can start to relax that this isn't happening to you; it's happening to someone else who might benefit from high level classes.

    What school districts offer now is completely different than what the offered 15 years ago for high level classes. That being said, put your kids in sports or activities where they socially interact with diverse students.
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  • @mrs.conn23
    i don't think all these stupid people should be advising you on what you should do with your genius self and your genius level child.



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  • Omg i totally didn't get this at first.... sorry that you can't make this more obvious lol
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  • icecreamS04icecreamS04 member
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    edited September 2013
    Grabows14 said:
    I have a slight problem that you think you and your husband have led unsuccessful careers. You really need to evaluate your life and change that mentality. Kids pick up on that, and that will affect the way they perceive their success. T
    I skipped 3 school years (in total not in a row) and graduate really early with excellent results, I was always one of the youngest in my class...in elementary school I won a couple of art contests and maths contests, but that was just doing okay (while everyone else thought it was so extraordinary and told me so)...I still have a huge issue with this... 
    same about sports... until I had suffered a serious injuries, I was really good at a competitive level, I was state champion in gymnastics in two consecutive years. Towards the end of the second year I got a really bad attitude if I didn't feel I performed well (which meant I was crying when I had finished second place). Winning wasn't good enough, it was just not good enough because I only met the minimum expectation I had for myself... my mom was really unhappy about that as she thought I was doing absolutely great and kept telling me that I should look at what I had accomplished. She's been amazing all that time.
    I went to a school that had special programmes for kids with high IQ for 4 years (7th-10th grade), but I was way happier when I changed to a normal school and was allowed to skip a year... and to be far away from an environment, where you get treated as genius (+ there was an issue with bullying in my old school). While I never had a real social life for all the time I attended my old school, being 16 and in my senior year, socialising and going to parties did me really good... Most of the kids with a high IQ have 0 social skills (at least at my old school) and while my new school had anti-bullying programmes, the old school just ignored the topic altogether...  

    So, just ask for your daughter's opinion, if she wants to be in the programme, let her. If she wants to be in a normal school, make her do classes that challenge her!

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