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Fall-out with mother over guest list

I'm completely distraught, and I'm hoping by posting my story to get guidance on how to go forward.  I'm going to summarize the best I can here so you're not reading a book....

I'm engaged and planning my wedding for early next year.  My mother is adopted and recently came into contact with her full-blooded immediate siblings.  Of course I am very excited that they have finally connected, and my mother has planned a trip in late fall to visit them (they live across the country).  Originally, I was going to join her.  But since we first began talking about the trip I've became engaged and started a new job.  My new job has limited paid time off, so I only have 2 weeks paid vacation from now until this time next year, which I need to save most of for my wedding & honeymoon.  I told her that I can only can take two days off work (not including travel days) for this trip.

My mother has graciously offered to pay for a large portion of the wedding.  She mentioned inviting her new siblings to my wedding, which I said I was uncomfortable with, since essentially they are strangers.  She offered to pay for their airfare and reception dinners, but I still thought it wasn't a good idea.  For one, I don't know them whatsoever, although so far they do seem like very lovely people.   Second, to me a wedding is a very personal affair and my fiancé and I are only planning to have our closest friends and family there. 

Well two weeks ago she sent an email to one of her siblings that I was copied on.  In this email she explained how disappointed she was that we couldn't visit for longer then two days, but I didn't want to "rock the boat" with my new employer by taking too much time off work.  Then she proceeded to invite them to the wedding!  Needless to say, I was shocked. 

Later on the phone, when I asked why she had invited them after I asked her not to, she became very irate and insisted that because she was paying for a large chuck of the wedding that she is entitled to do so.  Then she hung up on me.  Two days later I received a confirmation email that she had booked our tickets to visit this new family.  I replied to confirmation email explaining that I felt she had over stepped her boundaries by sending the invite after I asked her not to.  I won't get too much into the details, but her reply was very nasty and I was accused of not being supportive of her meeting this new family.

Long story short, I have canceled my trip to meet them and my mother and I are not on speaking terms at the moment.  My fiancé and I have decided to not accept anymore of her money and to pay for everything ourselves. 

I should also explain that I come a divorced household and lived with an abusive step-father for 15 years.  I had step-siblings that I liked very much though.  I also have a half-sister whom I love dearly.  My mom and step-father have since divorced, and I no longer see or speak to him or his children.  Ten years ago I found out I had an older half-brother that my mother gave up for adoption.  I met him and we have had a great relationship since.  I am staying this because I am exhausted with having family members come in and out my life and I need to form my own relationship with these new aunts and uncles on my terms, at my own speed.

I believe I have made the right decision by canceling my trip, but I am also feeling tremendous guilt.  I want to be there for mother in this major life event, but I cannot have her treat me with such disrespect, which I feel is what is happening and had happened at moments throughout my life.   This silent treatment is killing me and I feel so sad and depressed about the whole thing.  At this point, I would just elope with my fiancé so we could get married without the stress, but there is a nonrefundable deposit down on the reception hall, so we need to proceed with the original plans.

Any responses would be appreciated....thanks for listening.

Re: Fall-out with mother over guest list

  • I think you made all the right steps for you and you took responsibility for what you felt you needed to do.  

    Just b/c she's meeting new family doesn't mean they're going to be people that you want to invite to a wedding.  Not all adoptive reunions go well.  

  • VarunaTT said:
    I think you made all the right steps for you and you took responsibility for what you felt you needed to do.  

    Just b/c she's meeting new family doesn't mean they're going to be people that you want to invite to a wedding.  Not all adoptive reunions go well.  
    This. It may very well be that after this meeting, these people end up being completely different than what your mom has envisioned. I have several family members who were adopted and their reunions have been very different. One cousin's biological family were so stunned when she reached out for contact that they didn't really say much- it took several months before they got to a point of regular contact. One family member wants nothing to do with her non-adoptive family because after meeting, the biological family wanted her to pay for things, etc because they felt she was rich and could afford to take care of them.

    You did what you had to do.
  • Varauna & PMeg819- That's exactly what part of my fear is, that these people, while blood related, are still strangers and we don't know really them.  We've had a couple of nice email exchanges, but that doesn't mean I'm ready to invite them to something as intimate and personal as my wedding.  I want to form a relationship with them slowly and on my own terms.  Thank you for your responses, it helps.

    Scribe95 - I want to know "EVERY SINGLE PERSON AT THE WEDDING" because it's my wedding.

  • I can see both sides, and think both of you may be a bit unreasonable. 

    I'm curious why your mom felt that she need to cut her visit short because you could not attend more than 2 days. 

    I can understand her desire to connect with these (long lost?) siblings, and your reluctance at inviting people that you don't know/have any sort of relationship with to your wedding. Does every guest need to be your BFF? I don't think so - but this is your choice. Is this something that's worth destroying your relationship with your mother? Once again - I don't think so, but it's your choice. 

    The reunion may go well, and it may not. You still have some time before the wedding, so why not see how things go, and make a decision when you're getting ready to send the invites? If the travel is significant, they may decide to not attend, anyway. 

    Since you and your FI have made the decision to host, yourselves, then you'll have full control over the guest list. Think about what you really want and what winning this argument is worth to you. 
  • PirateBarbie - Thanks for your response.  No, everyone does not have to be my BFF to be at my wedding, but my fiancé and I want it to be a small, intimate wedding.  Some of our first and second cousins are not even getting invited, because we're not very close with them.  I am not looking to win an argument with my mom, as this is not the time nor the place for that.  But, she has invited people even after I asked her not too and has made it very clear that her money comes with entitlements.  I do not my wedding to be used a prop to get closer with these people.  This is the most important day of my life. 

    Concerning the length of my mom's visit, I wondered the same thing you did and told her that my schedule did not have to dictate hers because she was quite upset that I could only stay for 2 days...

  • I'm with PirateBarbie.  I see both sides.  I get that you're sick of these shenanigans, and she jumped the gun inviting them when she's not even sure if the meeting will go well; but, the person paying is the person choosing who gets invited and it was very generous of her to offer to foot the majority of your wedding bills.  I think it was right for you to take over paying for the wedding if you disagreed with her invites, but I also think it's a little childish and hurtful to your mom.

    I think it's sad that you canceled your trip.  This was obviously a VERY BIG deal to her and as her daughter you should have supported her even if you were irritated.

    This seems like a very petty thing to end one of the strongest relationships you should ever have in your life over.

  • @uskt01245 I agree with @PirateBarbie in thinking that you both are being unreasonable.   Her for demanding you invite them, and you for immediately saying no and not taking her feelings into account. 

    To me....a reasonable solution would have been the following.  'Mom, I understand you want to invite your new family, but I'd like to meet them first, see how we connect, and then decide when we return home, about inviting them to the wedding."

     Take the trip with your mom, interact with your new found Aunts and Uncles and see how they are.  Are they nice people?  Do you see yourself having a relationship with them?  Do they seem sincere?  Or on the other hand, do they appear to be slovenly people who think your moms rich and want her money? 

    Was your mom being unreasonable and out of bounds by sending the email, yes.  But so were you by taking her money for your wedding and not trying to compromise. 

    See if maybe there is still a compromise that can be made.   As you said, you have a history of family members going in and out of your life, but don't judge these people by the past.  As you state, they're nice people, and you might regret one day having not invited them to your wedding.

  • kss20 - Hopefully this won't be the end of my relationship with my mom.  It is sad that I canceled my trip, and I agonized over that choice.  I did not realize that if someone offers to help pay for your wedding that they would then get control over the guest list, I guess this is accepted practice...? 

     

    To add more detail/background to the story, not only did I cancel the trip because of the fall-out, but my mother also told the new family a HUGE lie about herself.   So I'm sure the hot topic of conversation on the trip would be their impending invite to my wedding that I did not want them to have, but also this lie that I would have to go along with, as it would absolutely be the center of conversation.

    There's so much more background to the story that I didn't write....I just want her to respect my boundaries.

  • LakeR2014 - Concerning your reasonable solution, I completely agree with you. In fact, after she invited them, I asked why she didn't wait until after our trip to revisit the subject of extending them an invite.  Her response was that it is her money and she can do whatever she wants.
  • You have a history of people coming in and out of your life...all but one important person...your mother.  Don't allow this to get in the way of your relationship with her.  You can't take back the fact that she invited these new family members.  Try to meet them and keep an open mind.  Your mother is finally feeling like she has found another part of who she is, and she wants to share that with you.  Yes, it's weird that they are just now coming into your life, but they may be a part of your life indefinitely so why not accomodate your mother's wish.  Being adopted can leave a hole in one's heart, and she now feels as if that hole has been filled by finding some of her family.  It's an emotional time for your mother, so she may not be thinking completely rationally/or the same way you are thinking about what you want your wedding to be.  Perhaps she may wish that they were there for her wedding, so now that she has this wonderful celebration of your wedding she wants to share that with them...and YOU.  Try to be the bigger person and allow them into your life.  Yes, it may go haywire and maybe you won't like them, but I'm sure you and your mother will probably agree on that going forward.  Either they will prove to be nice people, or not.  That remains to be seen.  Take the trip and go from there. 
  • Man, people are really trying to whitewash this story.

    She drew her line, her mom stepped over it and she then rejected the monies.  If you remove adoption from it, this is an age old story we've seen here and given advice that she already did.  Even if they're nice people, she's not under obligation to invite them.
  • jenn77bjenn77b member
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    I do agree that what she has done is perfectly acceptable...makes total sense.  Yes, she doesn't want mom to rule her say in the wedding so she drops her off of funding it.  I get it.  She asked for responses to the whole story.  My response and thoughts have more to do with her mom's situation with her "new" family and the fact that this has led to her not even talking to her mom than what she should do about them coming to the wedding.  I think she should at least talk to her mom, meet the family with her mom, and then see she how she feels.  Try and remove the wedding element from the rest of it...because I think she is upset that she and her mother are not talking.
  • VaruanaTT - That's exactly what I was thinking when this whole situation started.  My mom has repeatedly stepped over my boundaries in the past, her respecting me has always been an issue, and I don't want her to take over my wedding.   She's had several of her own weddings.

     

    jenn77b - I hear you.  I know it's emotional and exciting time for her and I do want to be a part of it.  But, I also don't want her pushing me into things and I felt like my hand was forced on this issue.  I wish wish wish these people had come into our lives at a different and not in the middle of me planning a wedding, because I feel perhaps some of this conflict could have been avoided.   

     

    That being said, I would have been open to inviting them after the visit if all went well.  But, in my opinion, her inviting them after I said I wasn't comfortable with it shows complete disregard for my feelings.

  • I would feel obligated to invite them this at this point since your mom already did.  I think she's excited to have this newly found family and wants them to be a part of her life and clearly didn't think to make sure it's cool with you first.  Obviously, it's time to put your foot down and tell her no more inviting people without your blessing.  I guess I'd think it'd be rude if I was verbally invited to a wedding but never received the invite.  However, I wouldn't want to ruin my relationship with my mom over it.  Some battles aren't worth it, IMO.  They may not even RSVP yes, especially since it's OOT.
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  • I can't get this to unquote this part...but definitely what you said supports why you NEEDED to put your foot down for sure.  If she's like this a lot and not just this one time, then yes, you definitely needed to step in and set her straight!
     
     
    uskt01245 said:

    VaruanaTT - That's exactly what I was thinking when this whole situation started.  My mom has repeatedly stepped over my boundaries in the past, her respecting me has always been an issue, and I don't want her to take over my wedding.   She's had several of her own weddings.

  • uskt01245 said:

     There's so much more background to the story that I didn't write....I just want her to respect my boundaries.

    That's totally fair.  I can support this statement.
  • Thanks again for the responses.  I suppose I should have summarized the story better and added a bit more background to it.  My mother has frequently made decisions in the past that have directly and adversely impacted me, although she has never acknowledged that.  This includes over stepping my boundaries my entire adult life.  So, I'm afraid if I don't put my foot down this the cycle will continue.  If I can't get her to respect the most important day of my life, my wedding, then when will it end?!  However, I love her SO much and really am feeling quite sad that it's come to this.  I do not feel a sense of victory whatsoever, nor am I looking for that.

    I guess I just needed to vent about this situation, anonymously, and this board has provided that.

  • one thing about mothers, at least in my experience, is that unfortunately weddings just exacerbate the behaviors and attitudes that were already there. some people's mothers (like the ones in movies, books, cereal commercials...) are constantly nurturing, supportive and caring, know when to let go, and respect their adult children as independent, intelligent, responsible individuals. other mothers are never quite able to pull that off. even though this is your wedding, your special day, and your mom is perhaps unfairly unhappy with you, treating you poorly, and creating conflict, she will always be your mother.

    i'm writing this at 2 a.m. after a multi-part fight with my future father in law. the guest list is also an issue in my case (my fiance's family is graciously paying for most of the wedding, but they have opted to invite a full 50% of the total guest count. this has pushed the limits of our venue, but they claim they "know certain people won't come." we're afraid we're going to have to uninvite people if they're wrong.  we've had to cut a lot of people to make up for their insistence on inviting so many people, screwing our friends and my family out of invitations. we've even had to cut some people that we already asked for addresses. and that's just one issue-- the fights with my mother, though unrelated, are nearly constant.

    oh, and did i mention that my fiance are both currently between jobs, moving back and forth every week or so between his parents house and mine?

    at this point, i'm just sick of fighting. i tried the threatening to pay for the whole thing option. i considered the eloping even though deposits are paid option. i remember back when i was first dreaming of my wedding day over a year ago, when we thought we'd have a small outdoor party at the college where we met... but that didn't meet my fiance's family's qualifications. we once visited a venue together and my future mother in law said the lobby had a strange smell, and that it would be hard to decorate. i don't know how i haven't pulled all of my hair out by now.

    i think in the end, the most important thing really is love. it sounds like despite all of the upset and disagreements, you care about your mom a lot. none of my parents are adopted, but my father passed away, so I have a step-father that I'm not completely comfortable with taking on the full "fatherly" role in my wedding. And my fiance's parents were immigrants who basically completely assimilated to American culture over the past 40 years. Suddenly, this wedding has brought out all kinds of cultural assumptions and expectations that I've never heard them mention before, and they have been subtly pointing out how different i am. It seems to bear no significance to them that their son is the groom, not the bride. and he was born in America. and he loves me. and it's our wedding.

    it's good to know that i'm not alone, and i hope you feel the same way. i'd love to just run away with my fiance and never see any of these crazy people again. but it's important to me to bring our families together. i think it's still worth a shot. venting is always great, especially to strangers. i really hope you can work things out with your mom. 
  • Man, the OP's mom sure does seem to think this wedding is all about her. 
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  • allisonny - Thanks for your post - so glad to hear I'm not the only one who's dreaming of eloping at this point!  I wish I had a crystal ball 3 months ago, because I would have never even started planning this wedding.  Isn't that a sad statement....

    I hope everything works out for you and your fiancé.  After reading some other stories on here, I'm quite shocked at how many people's parents/in-laws think that they have the right to take over the wedding.  Money or no money, it's not their wedding day!  Ahh, it makes me so frustrated!  This is not about them, this about this YOU and it's YOUR day, no one else's (and don't ever put your children through the same thing on their wedding day lol).

    Well, good luck to you.  I am hoping and praying my mother and I can move past this.  Deep down, I know I made the right decision, but that doesn't make this any easier...

     

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