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How to talk to a bridesmaid who's taste is way different than mine?

Alright, so here's some back story.

I have two bridesmaids - my sister and my best friend.  I've known my best friend for 10 years.  We were both outcasts in high school (the art geeks, ya know) so we were both a little "different".  Underneath all of her "different", though, she was always very traditional.  Even back then she couldn't wait to be an adult, and getting married, and have babies.  I was in no rush.  Even when she was a little girl, she was the type who would think about her future wedding all the time.  She met her husband the same year she met me.  They dated through high school and college, then they got married three years ago and had a son.  All very traditional.  I don't have the same life goals as her at all.  In fact when she got married three years ago, I remember telling her that I didn't want to get married until I was 40 - and at the time, I meant it.  Of course back then I was in a horrible relationship, and that all changed when I met my fiance - I'll be 26 when we get married next year.  Not exactly 40!

Her wedding was a blast.  It was fun, nobody was stressed... everyone just had a great time.  But, to be honest, the whole thing was very... "everyone else".  There was really nothing untraditional or offbeat about it.  It was very "her" though, and it worked.

So now that it's my turn to plan my wedding, she seems to think that deep down I really want a traditional wedding, and her opinions come across as though she worries that I'll someday regret having an untraditional one.  I haven't ever been particularly traditonal - nothing about my life is the way it "should" be, and I'm 100% happy with that.  I believe that my wedding should reflect myself and my fiance, so a lot of traditional stuff is getting set aside.

Here are some of her biggest "concerns":

  • BRIDESMAID DRESSES - I'm not getting my wedding dress from a bridal shop.  I went to one with my sister back in like... March, tried on a few things, and just realized that it wasn't really what I wanted.  The dresses were beautiful and I liked a lot of them... but I didn't really LOVE any, and I didn't like the whole "experience" of it.  My dress is coming from Etsy.  So while I was talking to my bridesmaids about their dresses, I said we could go to bridal shops if they really wanted, but I felt that most of what they would have to offer would be too formal for the casual event we're planning.  My friend really pushed for the bridal shops, so she and I went to a couple last weekend (while my sister was working).  She tried on a few things that I didn't mind, but eventually realized that I wasn't really loving any of it.  And I realized that she'd pushed so hard for the bridal shops more for the EXPERIENCE of it, rather than thinking I would love what they had.  And to me, going to a shop like that without having the intention of buying feels a little bit like wasting both our time and the time of the staff, who should be focussing on bridal parties who plan on buying.
  • NOT CARRYING REAL FLOWERS - We're making paper flowers for the tables, and I planned on doing the same for my bouquet, the bridesmaids' bouquets, and even the guys' boutonniers.  I'm not much for flowers (I know maybe five different kinds, but beyond that flowers are just "flowers" to me) and I can't fathom spending money on real flowers that are just going to die in a matter of days.  I don't HATE flowers, but I feel like my wedding doesn't need them.  I told my friend that my stepmom thinks I need to carry real flowers, and my friend agreed - she figures they'll look nicer in the photos.  I couldn't care less either way.  We're not going to have traditional "everyone line up" photos, so why should I care how my flowers look in them?
  • OUR CHOICE OF FOOD - Chicken? Pasta? Fish? Nah. We're doing a buffet-style dinner with fried pickles and sliders, among other things.  "We're eating sliders at your wedding? SLIDERS?"  Yes, sliders.  Delicious, not super filling... and they go great with the fried pickles which, by the way, is what my fiance and I ate when we met... so that's important!
  • WEDDING FAVORS - We're not really having any.  She goes on and on about her cute little monogrammed wooden stir sticks they had at their wedding, and how everyone took them home and probably uses them.  Know what?  I forgot mine on the table when I left her wedding.  I ate the jellybeans they also had - but who doesn't eat the candy?  We're not getting any little "knick knack" that most of guests will forget/throw out/stick in a junk drawer at home and never look at again.  Monogrammed M&M's?  In your wedding colors?  No, my dear friend... we won't do that either.  Instead we're making a donation in lieu of favors - two donations, actually.  One to the cat shelter where we adopted our rescue cat, and one two the MS Society (my stepmom has MS).  We're thinking of maybe getting personalized lollipops (or just generic ones) and sticking them in the bouquets to include so guests have something... but I'm not going all out and getting all kinds of crap for people.
  • WEDDING COLORS - This is probably the most difficult thing for her to wrap her head around.  We don't have "wedding colors".  My bridesmaids will be wearing black, because it goes with everything and they can accessorize in any way.  The venue is very colorful, and we felt that trying to decorated with specific colors would compete too much with the way the venue already looks.  Part of the reason we chose our venue is because we wouldn't have to spend a lot on decorating the place - in fact the only thing we're doing is centerpieces.  The venue looks perfect all on it's own.  But my best friend can't figure out how we can get through planning the wedding without having specific colors for things.  Our paper flowers are going to be all different colors, so no worries there.  But how will my dress (which has a purple lining) match with the wedding?  Well, it's going to stand all on it's own and look great.  But how will we get favors (like the M&Ms she was pushing for) if we can't order them in certain colors??  Simple: we won't.  How will I carry a bouquet of a certain color?  IF I get real flowers to carry, they'll be multicolored, to go with the beautiful venue and multi colored comic book theme.
  • "THEMED" BRIDESMAIDS - I've been toying with the idea of my bridesmaids wearing dresses with a bit of a pinup feel.  But she's convinced that if we get pinup-style dresses, they'll have to have pinup-style make up, pinup-style hair, pinup-style shoes, etc, etc, etc.  That would be cute (and was almost our theme) but no, we won't have to do that.  We can go all out with it, OR we can downplay the style of the dress by having everything else they're wearing reflect their more simple style - much easier, and less costumey.
  • WEDDING PIE - My fiance and I are not much for cake.  We also fear that it'll be much more pricey to get a cake he can eat (he's lactose intolerant) made for us.  We both LOVE pie.  So we're thinking of a three-"tiered" pie.  Pumpkin pie on the bottom, apple pie in the middle, and tarts on the top.  Adorable, perfect for our early fall wedding, and delicious.  My traditional friend worries about how this will look in the cake-cutting pictures!  It'll look adorable!!

These are just a few examples of this.  I know she has my best interest at heart, and probably worries that in a few years I'll worry that I've made some mistakes - but the choices we've made so far are very much "us" and the day will reflect that perfectly.  That won't change.  If in a few years our tastes have changed, we'll know that our wedding reflected what we were into and what we were like at the time - which I think is much better than reflecting what was trendy at the time!

My fiance thinks I should sit down and talk to her one-on-one about it, but I worry about hurting her feelings and causing drama in the months leading up to the wedding.  And that's the last thing I want.  I just wish she could see things from my point of view, and know that the choices I'm making are mine (not something my fiance is "making" me do).  We're very casual people and we don't see the point in doing what we "should" for our wedding, when we won't be happy with it.  This isn't her chance at planning a second wedding of her own... it should be something she's happy for me because of, right?

What would you ladies say/do?

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  • Alright, so here's some back story.

    I have two bridesmaids - my sister and my best friend.  I've known my best friend for 10 years.  We were both outcasts in high school (the art geeks, ya know) so we were both a little "different".  Underneath all of her "different", though, she was always very traditional.  Even back then she couldn't wait to be an adult, and getting married, and have babies.  I was in no rush.  Even when she was a little girl, she was the type who would think about her future wedding all the time.  She met her husband the same year she met me.  They dated through high school and college, then they got married three years ago and had a son.  All very traditional.  I don't have the same life goals as her at all.  In fact when she got married three years ago, I remember telling her that I didn't want to get married until I was 40 - and at the time, I meant it.  Of course back then I was in a horrible relationship, and that all changed when I met my fiance - I'll be 26 when we get married next year.  Not exactly 40!

    Her wedding was a blast.  It was fun, nobody was stressed... everyone just had a great time.  But, to be honest, the whole thing was very... "everyone else".  There was really nothing untraditional or offbeat about it.  It was very "her" though, and it worked.

    So now that it's my turn to plan my wedding, she seems to think that deep down I really want a traditional wedding, and her opinions come across as though she worries that I'll someday regret having an untraditional one.  I haven't ever been particularly traditonal - nothing about my life is the way it "should" be, and I'm 100% happy with that.  I believe that my wedding should reflect myself and my fiance, so a lot of traditional stuff is getting set aside.

    Here are some of her biggest "concerns":

    • BRIDESMAID DRESSES - I'm not getting my wedding dress from a bridal shop.  I went to one with my sister back in like... March, tried on a few things, and just realized that it wasn't really what I wanted.  The dresses were beautiful and I liked a lot of them... but I didn't really LOVE any, and I didn't like the whole "experience" of it.  My dress is coming from Etsy.  So while I was talking to my bridesmaids about their dresses, I said we could go to bridal shops if they really wanted, but I felt that most of what they would have to offer would be too formal for the casual event we're planning.  My friend really pushed for the bridal shops, so she and I went to a couple last weekend (while my sister was working).  She tried on a few things that I didn't mind, but eventually realized that I wasn't really loving any of it.  And I realized that she'd pushed so hard for the bridal shops more for the EXPERIENCE of it, rather than thinking I would love what they had.  And to me, going to a shop like that without having the intention of buying feels a little bit like wasting both our time and the time of the staff, who should be focussing on bridal parties who plan on buying.
    • NOT CARRYING REAL FLOWERS - We're making paper flowers for the tables, and I planned on doing the same for my bouquet, the bridesmaids' bouquets, and even the guys' boutonniers.  I'm not much for flowers (I know maybe five different kinds, but beyond that flowers are just "flowers" to me) and I can't fathom spending money on real flowers that are just going to die in a matter of days.  I don't HATE flowers, but I feel like my wedding doesn't need them.  I told my friend that my stepmom thinks I need to carry real flowers, and my friend agreed - she figures they'll look nicer in the photos.  I couldn't care less either way.  We're not going to have traditional "everyone line up" photos, so why should I care how my flowers look in them?
    • OUR CHOICE OF FOOD - Chicken? Pasta? Fish? Nah. We're doing a buffet-style dinner with fried pickles and sliders, among other things.  "We're eating sliders at your wedding? SLIDERS?"  Yes, sliders.  Delicious, not super filling... and they go great with the fried pickles which, by the way, is what my fiance and I ate when we met... so that's important!
    • WEDDING FAVORS - We're not really having any.  She goes on and on about her cute little monogrammed wooden stir sticks they had at their wedding, and how everyone took them home and probably uses them.  Know what?  I forgot mine on the table when I left her wedding.  I ate the jellybeans they also had - but who doesn't eat the candy?  We're not getting any little "knick knack" that most of guests will forget/throw out/stick in a junk drawer at home and never look at again.  Monogrammed M&M's?  In your wedding colors?  No, my dear friend... we won't do that either.  Instead we're making a donation in lieu of favors - two donations, actually.  One to the cat shelter where we adopted our rescue cat, and one two the MS Society (my stepmom has MS).  We're thinking of maybe getting personalized lollipops (or just generic ones) and sticking them in the bouquets to include so guests have something... but I'm not going all out and getting all kinds of crap for people.
    • WEDDING COLORS - This is probably the most difficult thing for her to wrap her head around.  We don't have "wedding colors".  My bridesmaids will be wearing black, because it goes with everything and they can accessorize in any way.  The venue is very colorful, and we felt that trying to decorated with specific colors would compete too much with the way the venue already looks.  Part of the reason we chose our venue is because we wouldn't have to spend a lot on decorating the place - in fact the only thing we're doing is centerpieces.  The venue looks perfect all on it's own.  But my best friend can't figure out how we can get through planning the wedding without having specific colors for things.  Our paper flowers are going to be all different colors, so no worries there.  But how will my dress (which has a purple lining) match with the wedding?  Well, it's going to stand all on it's own and look great.  But how will we get favors (like the M&Ms she was pushing for) if we can't order them in certain colors??  Simple: we won't.  How will I carry a bouquet of a certain color?  IF I get real flowers to carry, they'll be multicolored, to go with the beautiful venue and multi colored comic book theme.
    • "THEMED" BRIDESMAIDS - I've been toying with the idea of my bridesmaids wearing dresses with a bit of a pinup feel.  But she's convinced that if we get pinup-style dresses, they'll have to have pinup-style make up, pinup-style hair, pinup-style shoes, etc, etc, etc.  That would be cute (and was almost our theme) but no, we won't have to do that.  We can go all out with it, OR we can downplay the style of the dress by having everything else they're wearing reflect their more simple style - much easier, and less costumey.
    • WEDDING PIE - My fiance and I are not much for cake.  We also fear that it'll be much more pricey to get a cake he can eat (he's lactose intolerant) made for us.  We both LOVE pie.  So we're thinking of a three-"tiered" pie.  Pumpkin pie on the bottom, apple pie in the middle, and tarts on the top.  Adorable, perfect for our early fall wedding, and delicious.  My traditional friend worries about how this will look in the cake-cutting pictures!  It'll look adorable!!

    These are just a few examples of this.  I know she has my best interest at heart, and probably worries that in a few years I'll worry that I've made some mistakes - but the choices we've made so far are very much "us" and the day will reflect that perfectly.  That won't change.  If in a few years our tastes have changed, we'll know that our wedding reflected what we were into and what we were like at the time - which I think is much better than reflecting what was trendy at the time!

    My fiance thinks I should sit down and talk to her one-on-one about it, but I worry about hurting her feelings and causing drama in the months leading up to the wedding.  And that's the last thing I want.  I just wish she could see things from my point of view, and know that the choices I'm making are mine (not something my fiance is "making" me do).  We're very casual people and we don't see the point in doing what we "should" for our wedding, when we won't be happy with it.  This isn't her chance at planning a second wedding of her own... it should be something she's happy for me because of, right?

    What would you ladies say/do?

    Stop talking about your wedding to your friend.  She doesn't need to know all of the details, especially since she doesn't really agree with your style of wedding.  There is nothing wrong with what your planning, except it's not totally tradional.  But if she brings up your wedding, then change the subject and refuse to engage.

    Just keep telling her that you just want her to buy a black dress that she likes.  If she picks out one that is overly formal, she will be the one who looks silly.  She knows the type of event you are having, she just doesn't agree with it.

    Lastly, I hope you are serving more than just sliders and friend pickles.  If you are having your reception during a meal time, you need to serve enough food to constitute a full meal.  Offbeat wedding or traditional, the same goes for the amount of food necessary for your guests!

  • Re: Flowers - If you don't want them, don't do them. 

    I am not doing any real flowers either- made ribbon/fabric/felt bouquets for my bridesmaids & corsages for moms and & boutoniers for the guys. MY bouquet is a brooch bouquet (made it myself). 
  • You have to have heart to heart talk with her remind her that your off beat and like none traditional ideas and , tell her you appreciated her opinion, though this is your day and your not traditional like other brides might be, ( don't say her because she might get offended ) . If she's one of your best friends, she has to know that your off beat with tradition and ideas, so i'm not sure why she would try to throw traditional ideas your way. A wedding needs to represent the both of you. If you express your concerns I'm sure she will understand and come around to your ideas.
  • I'm doing some very non-traditional things at my wedding too - this is my second wedding so I'm going for a different feel. No flowers, no traditional wedding cake, private ceremony because we're getting married off a cliff, no bridal party. 

    One of my very close friends has been my friend for 20 years. She was in my first wedding. When I told her I wasn't having a bridal party and the ceremony was private, she got very upset. She in turn said some things to me that really hurt my feelings. I'm now not going to discuss anything wedding related with her at all. I suggest you do the same. Don't tell her any ideas. Just reiterate to her that you'd like her to be in a black dress. Let her pick it out. 
  • I think your friend is being a little too pushy.  I don't think it is at all intentional or in an attempt to throw her second wedding, but she shouldn't be dictating this many details.  Aside from that what you have outlined sounds both justified and proper in terms of ettiquite.  I would prehaps without further details about wedding details with her and see if that helps.

  • Please tell us you are  having something along with those sliders and fried pickles.  How are you keeping the fried pickles hot?  I love me some fried pickles....
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    @itzMS My only concern with having them pick their own dresses would be that my friend would pick out some floor-length taffeta dry-clean-only (think typical bridesmaid) dress that cost her $300, while my sister would go more along the lines with how she knows I am (and how she is) - more casual. I've thought about just telling them to pick out something black, but the worrier in me pipes in and says that's a bad idea.

     

    To those who suggest not talking wedding with her - easier said than done! She's OBSESSED with weddings and wants to know every detail.  I've taken to throwing in the occasional "we're going for the element of surprise" but maybe I need to do that more frequently?

     

    And for the concerns about the food - there will be more, but that's the main "feature" of our appetizer-style buffet menu.  We didn't see the need to have a huge entree, and there will be plenty to eat that won't leave our guests feeling overstuffed.  There will be different platters of finger foods and desserts later.  I doubt we'll have starving guests - there will be tons of what we've chosen.

    @kmmssg Haha we were initially attracted to our venue because fried pickles were on the menu! We LOVE fried pickles... I could probably live off of them! They'll have warmer trays for the stuff that has to be hot - benefit of catering right in the venue! :)

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  • You need a main entree if your reception is at a meal time. This isn't a negotiable thing. What you're serving is tasty for a cocktail hour or late night snack. When does your reception start?

    If your friend wants a $300 taffeta dress...just let her get it! She should wear her own style.

    Just bean dip her wedding talk.

    Friend: "So did you see these super awesome wedding ideas?!?? You just HAVE to do them!!"

    You: "Oh those are nice. Thanks. Have you tried the bean dip?"
  • @itzMS The reception is at 7. A bit later than dinner time. Our wedding is going to be ridiculously casual, so we just didn't see the need to have a "fancy" dinner complete with different courses and whatnot. There won't be a "cocktail hour" or a late night pick-me-up. If this means our guests leave early, I don't mind. We're not going all-in for a huge (stressful) event that will leave everyone overfed and exhausted. We have more food than what I mentioned specifically (I can't remember all of it - I would have to look at our contract).
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  • @itzMS The reception is at 7. A bit later than dinner time. Our wedding is going to be ridiculously casual, so we just didn't see the need to have a "fancy" dinner complete with different courses and whatnot. There won't be a "cocktail hour" or a late night pick-me-up. If this means our guests leave early, I don't mind. We're not going all-in for a huge (stressful) event that will leave everyone overfed and exhausted. We have more food than what I mentioned specifically (I can't remember all of it - I would have to look at our contract).

    Your recpetion starts at 7, but your ceremony is around 6/6:30?  You need to serve enough food to constitute a full dinner.  It doesn't have to be fancy entrees, but it needs to be a full meal.  Think of it this way.  Your ceremony is at 6:30, many guests like to come early, so they may arrive around 6.  They will need to add in their travel time, 30 mins and any time it takes for them to get ready, another 30 mins.  So they will start getting ready for your wedding at 5 and many of your guests will not eat a meal before then except for lunch.  This is why you needs to serve enough food to feed your guests a dinner.  If you want to move your ceremony start time to 8 pm, then have an 8:30/9 PM reception start time, then your plan is perfectly acceptable.

    And just let the girl buy a $300 dress, she knows how your wedding will be, so let her be overdressed. 

    If she really will only talk wedding with you.  Just tell her "Friend, I love you, but we have totally different ideas for the wedding.  My ideas aren't wrong and your ideas aren't wrong.  We are just planning something different than what you want me to plan.  So please let's just keep wedding talk to the very minimum as you will not change my mind over the wedding I am going to have."

  • @itzMS The reception is at 7. A bit later than dinner time. Our wedding is going to be ridiculously casual, so we just didn't see the need to have a "fancy" dinner complete with different courses and whatnot. There won't be a "cocktail hour" or a late night pick-me-up. If this means our guests leave early, I don't mind. We're not going all-in for a huge (stressful) event that will leave everyone overfed and exhausted. We have more food than what I mentioned specifically (I can't remember all of it - I would have to look at our contract).

    Sorry, but that's kind of a poor attitude to have.

    It sounds like..."I'm not going to feed you enough to make a full dinner. If you don't like it...you can just leave because it's MY day and this is the food WE like"

    It doesn't take much to add some grilled/baked chicken, a steamed veggie, and a starch like potatoes/rice/pasta to give your guests something proper and substantial.

    I LOVE sliders and fried pickles...but I would have to eat a lot of it to be satisfied at a meal time (which your wedding/reception is). My DH (and most 20-something guys) would probably eat 6-8 sliders if that's all there was!

  • @itzMS My only concern with having them pick their own dresses would be that my friend would pick out some floor-length taffeta dry-clean-only (think typical bridesmaid) dress that cost her $300, while my sister would go more along the lines with how she knows I am (and how she is) - more casual. I've thought about just telling them to pick out something black, but the worrier in me pipes in and says that's a bad idea.

     

    To those who suggest not talking wedding with her - easier said than done! She's OBSESSED with weddings and wants to know every detail.  I've taken to throwing in the occasional "we're going for the element of surprise" but maybe I need to do that more frequently?

     

    And for the concerns about the food - there will be more, but that's the main "feature" of our appetizer-style buffet menu.  We didn't see the need to have a huge entree, and there will be plenty to eat that won't leave our guests feeling overstuffed.  There will be different platters of finger foods and desserts later.  I doubt we'll have starving guests - there will be tons of what we've chosen.

    @kmmssg Haha we were initially attracted to our venue because fried pickles were on the menu! We LOVE fried pickles... I could probably live off of them! They'll have warmer trays for the stuff that has to be hot - benefit of catering right in the venue! :)

    It sounds like you'll have enough food (quantity and variety) to make up for a meal, even if it doesn't feature a main entree.

    As for the dresses, you could always add conditions, like a knee length black dress, or if you like pin-up style things Modcloth has some really cute dresses. You said she only wanted to go for the experience, and now you've gone, so you can pick what you want (within everyone's budget) and not worry. And truthfully, she sounds like she would prefer for you to pick the dress anyway, so why not pick a more casual dress on your own?

    Let them do their own hair/makeup, and if she wants to theme it up she'd be welcome to.

    Skipping favors, not having colors, and other things like that guests won't be affected by. You guys have different styles, and that's okay. If you want to share details, go for it, but that opens you up to her opinions.

    How is she expressing her difference in taste, and how are you responding? Or do you just know she would do it differently?

    My best friend and I are very different. If she ever gets married, her wedding will be very different from mine. If she does something that is actually wrong (she's already mentioned how dumb I was for writing Thank-you notes) I might suggest the proper thing once, then let it go. She's expressed differences of opinions, such as not being able to get married in a park that doesn't allow alcohol, but but that's just her preference: she's never tried to talk me into moving my wedding so she could have her beer (she just drank it all beforehand ;) )

    Try to make sure you aren't making her feel defensive with your tone on certain things. She may be pushing things because she feels like you are downing on her choices when you say things like "I can't fathom spending money on real flowers that are just going to die in a matter of days." "entrees are too stuffy and formal" "nobody wants crap favors," leaving her pushing how great of an idea those things are because she wants to justify her own wedding to you, not necessarily push you into them, kwim?

    When discussing things with her, try phrasing things a little differently. Instead of "Platted dinners are boring and generic" try "We're having a ton of finger foods, it'll be perfect for us"
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  • All of the "traditional" items you are skipping, don't seem anything too crazy. It still sounds a like a very nice wedding with a few tweaks to customize it to you!

    My best friend did "wedding pie" and they had like 20 pies to choose from and a huge display for all of them and had one specific one they cut into. It looked adorable in the pictures so GO FOR IT!

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    I agree with itzMS's initial points.

    I think what you are doing sounds just fine.

    As per the "meal" as long as there are enough appetizers to make up a full plate of food for each guest (and realize that you will have some males that eat 5-10 sliders), that is A-OK. I went to a reception once (not a wedding) that was styled in this way and it was great. I ate way more food than I usually would for dinner because I *HAD* to try everything. 

    As for the dress- you can state some conditions, such as black and knee length (will keep it more casual), but otherwise let her pick what she wants. Who cares if she picks a fancier dress. She'll be happy, you'll be happy. 

    You don't need wedding favours. I am fine with donations being made, but there are many people who are not. While it's fine to donate, don't make a show of it- don't have a card somewhere that says "in lieu of favours a donation has been made in your honour". Not everyone will support the charity that you choose to support, and it looks AWish if you make a big show of it. 

    Otherwise, full steam ahead! And remember, your friend can give all the ideas she wants, but at the end of the day she's not the one paying for it! 

    P.S. I LOVE the wedding pies!! I seriously considered doing the same. 
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