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FI & Sister in law vent!!!

I love my fiance to death but one thing I get upset with him about is that he is too nice. Dont get me wrong there is nothing wrong with being nice but he's so nice he gets taken advantage of and I dont like that. His sister is constantly asking him for money not every blue moon but just about every week its 100 here 50 there and he gives it to her... We our paying for our own wedding and honeymoon . On top of that we are also putting money aside to move in together. So we are on a very tight budget. I try to stress to him that we have no money to give away and that it's ok to say no especially when she's always asking... They have other sisters and brothers but she only calls him. why? bcuz she knows that even if its his last he'll give it to her... he just asked me to send her money and I told him no she has to ask someone else we dont have it. I think he got a little upset with me bcuz I refuse to dip into our wedding savings to give it to her.... the account was set up for just that our wedding I dont want to start dipping into it for other things..... am I wrong in this situation?. I have our best interest at heart once we are married and living together him constantly giving her money wont just effect him but me as well. there's nothing wrong with helping others but you cant give so much that you have nothing for yourself..

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Re: FI & Sister in law vent!!!

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  • Please feel free to add any relevant information that would make your FI look something other than undateable, though, Tchavon.  Is his sister asking for money to feed her kids because she's broke with no income due to paying for and receiving cancer treatments?
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  • I love my fiance to death but one thing I get upset with him about is that he is too nice. Dont get me wrong there is nothing wrong with being nice but he's so nice he gets taken advantage of and I dont like that. His sister is constantly asking him for money not every blue moon but just about every week its 100 here 50 there and he gives it to her... We our paying for our own wedding and honeymoon . On top of that we are also putting money aside to move in together. So we are on a very tight budget. I try to stress to him that we have no money to give away and that it's ok to say no especially when she's always asking... They have other sisters and brothers but she only calls him. why? bcuz she knows that even if its his last he'll give it to her... he just asked me to send her money and I told him no she has to ask someone else we dont have it. I think he got a little upset with me bcuz I refuse to dip into our wedding savings to give it to her.... the account was set up for just that our wedding I dont want to start dipping into it for other things..... am I wrong in this situation?. I have our best interest at heart once we are married and living together him constantly giving her money wont just effect him but me as well. there's nothing wrong with helping others but you cant give so much that you have nothing for yourself..

    You need to have a come-to-Jesus talk with your FI about this BEFORE the wedding. Because if you don't, this is what the rest of your life will be like. And since you are going into this marriage with your eyes wide open knowing that the rest of your life will be him giving his sister your money, you will have no room to complain about it. Ever.
  • he didnt get pissed off and throw a fit... he was just like "but babe she needs the help and I feel wrong for not helping her" I told him you cant always send her money she has two jobs if anyone should be sending anyone money she should be sending it to us... he sighed and said alright I dont know if he got upset with me or if he is just not looking forward to telling his sister he cant do it.  

  • But you need to know what happens next.  This is apparently her habit, so she has to be trained out of it.  And so does he.  But you both have to be on the "this isn't happening anymore" train.  Next time, it's out of house fund, baby fund, college fund, etc.
  • I know why I'm marrying my fiance he is the sweetest person in this world. he doesnt like confrontation so the way to avoid it is by saying yes... and it's not just with his sister and money. it's with his boss or his mom and I tell him you need to stand up for urself dont be afraid to be the "bad guy" sometimes . The reasons I fell in love with him is also one of the things that pisses me off with him sometimes. He's a very nice person with a big heart... the reason I feel its more her then him... is bcuz she knows the type of person he is. She's told me herself that it's easy to take advantage of him bcuz he's so nice. so thats what she does. but the thing with him is he will work harder to make up for it... idk he just needs to open his eyes to the BS and stop being so scary 
  • VarunaTT said:

    But you need to know what happens next.  This is apparently her habit, so she has to be trained out of it.  And so does he.  But you both have to be on the "this isn't happening anymore" train.  Next time, it's out of house fund, baby fund, college fund, etc.

    Very true I do plan on talking to him about it. He would give me the world if I asked him but Im not with him to take advantage of him. Im with him bcuz he completes me loves me and treats me the way I deserve. I know if I sat and had a heart to heart he'd understand where Im coming from.I dont think he wants to upset me but it does. Would it be wrong for me to say something to his sister or should I leave that for him to do?
  • I would definitely just talk to him about it and let him talk to his sister. It might cause more trouble if you went straight to her. Besides, he's the one who's giving her money even when he know you guys are saving for your wedding. He needs to be the one to tell her whats what.
  • feeislove said:

    I would definitely just talk to him about it and let him talk to his sister. It might cause more trouble if you went straight to her. Besides, he's the one who's giving her money even when he know you guys are saving for your wedding. He needs to be the one to tell her whats what.

    Ok... I'll talk to him and leave it for him to do... I just felt like I was being a bitch... thanks all for confirming I have a valid reason to have gotten pissed... the lady that works with me feels Im in the wrong bcuz its his family and you should always be there for family.... Its not my intentions to make my FI look like a horrible person but I gotta put a stop to it before it really gets out of hand
  • Ok... I'll talk to him and leave it for him to do... I just felt like I was being a bitch... thanks all for confirming I have a valid reason to have gotten pissed... the lady that works with me feels Im in the wrong bcuz its his family and you should always be there for family.... Its not my intentions to make my FI look like a horrible person but I gotta put a stop to it before it really gets out of hand
    He can "be there" for his sister without handing her cash.  Helping her come up with a budget she can live within would be actually helping her.  Giving her a hand out every week/month isn't helping her, it's enabling her.
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  • very true.... it's like the saying give a man a fish he eats for a day teach a man to fish he eats for a lifetime or something like that lol
  • When he puts his sister's wants above your needs, then he is NOT treating you the way you deserve.
  • sooooooooooooooo had a long talk with my FI last night. I may have reacted too quick but I still feel the same way he shouldnt always give her money because in reality it's only temp. helping her... she needs to learn to better budget her money and thats the end of the story. but as far as the money he gives her... every paycheck we give ourselves what I guess we can call an allowance. we put 60 bucks aside to do or get things we want and the rest goes to savings and bills. if he has given her money this is where its coming from not the wedding money. he asked me to send her the money bcuz I had access to the internet at the time to send it thru Western union and was gonna give it right back to me with the money he has from his "allowance".... I reacted becaue all I saw was she's asking for money again I didnt want to hear any reasoning. I'm glad I talked to him bcuz I realized we are on the same page. As he told me he would never jeopardize our future for someone else, We come first. We did have a talk about him even giving her his allowance money and he said he would talk to her about things and to explain to her that if we have to scale back on our Wedding due to budget she could do the same thing for his nephews birthday party. I know I was just venting at the time but I do need to learn to talk to him before reacting and getting upset. It just kinda upsets me with her that she's aware of our budget and all the scaling down we have to do for our wedding. but yet wants my FI to give her money so that her son can have a huge sleep over/ birthday party at a hotel smh... I hope their talk goes as good as ours did. I'm happy after our talk but I have a feeling his big sister wont be.. oh well

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    sooooooooooooooo had a long talk with my FI last night. I may have reacted too quick but I still feel the same way he shouldnt always give her money because in reality it's only temp. helping her... she needs to learn to better budget her money and thats the end of the story. but as far as the money he gives her... every paycheck we give ourselves what I guess we can call an allowance. we put 60 bucks aside to do or get things we want and the rest goes to savings and bills. if he has given her money this is where its coming from not the wedding money. he asked me to send her the money bcuz I had access to the internet at the time to send it thru Western union and was gonna give it right back to me with the money he has from his "allowance".... I reacted becaue all I saw was she's asking for money again I didnt want to hear any reasoning. I'm glad I talked to him bcuz I realized we are on the same page.   Are you really, though?  As he told me he would never jeopardize our future for someone else, We come first. Then he should stop giving his sister money every time she asks for it.  We did have a talk about him even giving her his allowance money and he said he would talk to her about things and to explain to her that if we have to scale back on our Wedding due to budget she could do the same thing for his nephews birthday party. He doesn't need to share your finances with his sister, he just needs to tell her that he will no longer be giving her money.  I know I was just venting at the time but I do need to learn to talk to him before reacting and getting upset. It just kinda upsets me with her that she's aware of our budget and all the scaling down we have to do for our wedding. but yet wants my FI to give her money so that her son can have a huge sleep over/ birthday party at a hotel smh... I hope their talk goes as good as ours did. I'm happy after our talk but I have a feeling his big sister wont be.. oh well

    Hi, I've been lurking on this board a bit.

    I don't know, but I don't think your talk went as well as you think it did.  Did your FI agree to stop giving his sister money?  Did he agree to not give her money for this birthday party?  Did he agree to never give her money again in the future?  Did he agree to have a discussion with his sister where he tells her in no uncertain terms that from now on, he will no longer be able to give her money?

    You didn't say that any of those things happened during your conversation with him.  Only that he was going to give her money out of his monthly personal "allowance" and that he agreed to talk to his sister about possibly scaling back her children's birthday party.

    "Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."


  • I didnt know I had to disclose the convo word for word at the end of the day I was happy with our talk and I got more understanding from our talk. as long as I feel we have an understanding and we're on the same page thats really all that matters. he plans on talking to her today being that our convo was late last night. No he doesnt plan on giving her any money for the party. according to him he doesnt give it to her every time she asks and if thats what he's telling me I trust him. he says when he does give her money its for reasons such as needing gas to get to work or if she needs money to feed the boys. I can understand being a single mother and needing help sometimes (my mom was one) but just dont ask to the point that ppl start to not want to help you anymore. No he doesnt have to tell her all our finacial details but as I said before she knows everything we are trying to do and our budget its not a huge secret. I dont mind him helping I help my family out to when I can... I just dont want him helping so much it stops him from doing other things 
  • hmmmm

    hope it works out. Asking for money every wk is a problem. Although its not from the wedding fund, its from his stash. Now if something comes up, he has no stash to dip into b/c sister got it. I'm pretty sure you'd step in to provide, but you can see where and how it can go.

     

    His sister is inconsiderate though and only hope she understands, that her brothers life will change and wife will come first. She can't expect him to give all the time, family or not...

    To what you described abt who he is, he seems to be a pleaser, which is great. I just hope it doesn't turn into him working extra hard to give sister money and provide for you and family, to make all parties happy.

     

     

  • I didnt know I had to disclose the convo word for word at the end of the day I was happy with our talk and I got more understanding from our talk. as long as I feel we have an understanding and we're on the same page thats really all that matters. he plans on talking to her today being that our convo was late last night. No he doesnt plan on giving her any money for the party. according to him he doesnt give it to her every time she asks and if thats what he's telling me I trust him. he says when he does give her money its for reasons such as needing gas to get to work or if she needs money to feed the boys. I can understand being a single mother and needing help sometimes (my mom was one) but just dont ask to the point that ppl start to not want to help you anymore. No he doesnt have to tell her all our finacial details but as I said before she knows everything we are trying to do and our budget its not a huge secret. I dont mind him helping I help my family out to when I can... I just dont want him helping so much it stops him from doing other things 
    ....so she can't afford to feed her kids or pay for transportation to work, yet she can afford to pay for a big blowout hotel party?

    sure sounds like she has her priorities in order, and your FI is completely enabling this behavior. 

    if your FI doesn't grow a pair and learn to say no, I'm betting you'll continue to have this conversation. 
  • sooooooooooooooo had a long talk with my FI last night. I may have reacted too quick but I still feel the same way he shouldnt always give her money because in reality it's only temp. helping her... she needs to learn to better budget her money and thats the end of the story. but as far as the money he gives her... every paycheck we give ourselves what I guess we can call an allowance. we put 60 bucks aside to do or get things we want and the rest goes to savings and bills. if he has given her money this is where its coming from not the wedding money. he asked me to send her the money bcuz I had access to the internet at the time to send it thru Western union and was gonna give it right back to me with the money he has from his "allowance".... I reacted becaue all I saw was she's asking for money again I didnt want to hear any reasoning. I'm glad I talked to him bcuz I realized we are on the same page. As he told me he would never jeopardize our future for someone else, We come first. We did have a talk about him even giving her his allowance money and he said he would talk to her about things and to explain to her that if we have to scale back on our Wedding due to budget she could do the same thing for his nephews birthday party. I know I was just venting at the time but I do need to learn to talk to him before reacting and getting upset. It just kinda upsets me with her that she's aware of our budget and all the scaling down we have to do for our wedding. but yet wants my FI to give her money so that her son can have a huge sleep over/ birthday party at a hotel smh... I hope their talk goes as good as ours did. I'm happy after our talk but I have a feeling his big sister wont be.. oh well

    You have a strange definition of "being on the same page." Your husband has a strange definition of
    the two of you coming first, before his sister's needs.

    I predict you are in for a lifetime of him giving his sister your money every week. But you seem to be okay with that, so whatever.

  • Linnn said:

    hmmmm

    hope it works out. Asking for money every wk is a problem. Although its not from the wedding fund, its from his stash. Now if something comes up, he has no stash to dip into b/c sister got it. I'm pretty sure you'd step in to provide, but you can see where and how it can go.

     

    His sister is inconsiderate though and only hope she understands, that her brothers life will change and wife will come first. She can't expect him to give all the time, family or not...

    To what you described abt who he is, he seems to be a pleaser, which is great. I just hope it doesn't turn into him working extra hard to give sister money and provide for you and family, to make all parties happy.

     

     


    I agree with you 100%
  • ....so she can't afford to feed her kids or pay for transportation to work, yet she can afford to pay for a big blowout hotel party?

    sure sounds like she has her priorities in order, and your FI is completely enabling this behavior. 

    if your FI doesn't grow a pair and learn to say no, I'm betting you'll continue to have this conversation. 
    That what I told him... nobody not him not his mother sisters or brothers should have to pay fir her priorities not being in order.... like I said he tells me he does tell her no... but as we talked and agreed on he's done giving her money for a long time and if he does its something we both have to talk over and agree on. Im not a heartless personlike I said I dont mind helping when a person really needs it but I will not allow myself or fiance to be taken advantage of
  • I didnt know I had to disclose the convo word for word You don't, but at least the way I read your post you had left out some important information.  I appreciate that you are clarifying, though.    at the end of the day I was happy with our talk and I got more understanding from our talk. as long as I feel we have an understanding and we're on the same page thats really all that matters. Feeling like you are both on the same page and actually being on the same page are two different things, though.  I hope that you are both actually on the same page.  he plans on talking to her today being that our convo was late last night. No he doesnt plan on giving her any money for the party. This is good!  He just has to follow through with it, and I hope he does.  according to him he doesnt give it to her every time she asks and if thats what he's telling me I trust him. he says when he does give her money its for reasons such as needing gas to get to work or if she needs money to feed the boys. It sounds like your FSIL seriously needs to learn how to manage her finances properly.  She should not be running out of money for essential things, I am concerned for her and her kids.  But it sounds like this is part of a pattern of behavior of irresponsible spending.  Until she gets some help with financial planning and management, she will continue to need money for gas and food, and your FI will continue to give it to her.  This will continue to be an issue throughout the duration of your marriage unless your FI stops giving her money, and she gets her act together financially.  I can understand being a single mother and needing help sometimes Is she on any type of government assistance?  Does she qualify for it?  Maybe that could help her?   (my mom was one) but just dont ask to the point that ppl start to not want to help you anymore.  And that is where you are all at  right now No he doesnt have to tell her all our finacial details but as I said before she knows everything we are trying to do and our budget its not a huge secret. I dont mind him helping I help my family out to when I can... I just dont want him helping so much it stops him from doing other things 
    This is a tough situation.  I understand wanting to be there and help your family.

    But it seems like your FSIL takes advantage of your FI.

    "Love is the one thing we're capable of perceiving that transcends time and space."


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    zitiqueen said:

    You have a strange definition of "being on the same page." Your husband has a strange definition of
    the two of you coming first, before his sister's needs.

    I predict you are in for a lifetime of him giving his sister your money every week. But you seem to be okay with that, so whatever.

    my definition of us being on the same page is if we agree on how we are gonna handle things from now on then we are on the same thing and if we have any other disagreements (like all couples) on the way things are handled in the future we will work them out. and youre reading way too deep into what I wrote.... but like you said its my life not anyone elses so whatever
  • Ok but  if she knows she can guilt trip him what's to stop her from lying about the reason? Money for the kids' clothes could really be for her own selfish wants. What are you going to do after you're married, if you combine bank accounts? You need to put your foot down more. Tell him to cut her off.
  • Not positive if this would help but one thing you may want to suggest to FH is if she says she needs money to feed her kids and he feels guilty because its for his nephews, then give her some groceries not money.  If that is really what she wants it for she will gladly take it, if not I'm sure she will try to come up with reasons that doesn't work for her.  
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