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Bridesmaid musings

My partner insisted on having a wedding party so his two brothers could be his best men, so I chose two bridesmaids: my best friend A and my sister. I intentionally picked two people because I have a lot of friends and I feel like having even sides is a built-in excuse for not asking more people. Honestly, I couldn't care less about actually having even sides; I just don't want to deal with, "But why didn't you ask so-and-so?"

The issue now is that I really want to ask my friend S to be a bridesmaid. She and I are in grad school together and rely on each other a lot to get through daily life as grad students. She and I are about as close as A and I are; my partner likes both A and S a lot (he frequently (unprompted) comments that they're his two favorite friends of mine, and he gets along great with them). Basically, A and S are both incredibly important people in my life, and it feels weird having A be a bridesmaid and S just be another guest at the wedding. I would like to ask S to be a bridesmaid.

There are two reasons I'm hesitating:

1) I already asked A and my sister; S is aware that A and my sister are my bridesmaids. I don't want her to feel like an after-thought. I'm planning on phrasing it like, "You're such an important person in my life that it feels really wrong to have you at our wedding as just another guest. Both J and I would be honored if you would be in our wedding party and stand up with us." If you were S, how might you feel? I want to emphasize that S would not be replacing my sister or A, but I know that just because my intentions are "YAY FRIENDSHIP," it doesn't mean she wouldn't still be hurt.

2) The MAJOR reason I wanted to keep the sides even is that I have a childhood friend C, and I'm worried that she's feeling left out. She and I were best friends from early elementary school throughout college before growing apart. We still care about each other a lot, but we're not very involved in each other's lives anymore. The bottom line is that, although as kids we were all, "Of COURSE you'll be my maid of honor!" these days I don't feel that way. I am not going to ask her to be a bridesmaid. But without the EVEN SIDES excuse, I'm very worried that she will be very upset.

There's a very real chance that by not asking C to be a bridesmaid, I might be ending our friendship. I care about our friendship still, but I feel very strongly about who I choose to stand up with me during the ceremony. I don't want to be bullied (either by my own guilt, or by C's overprotective mother who has actually shown up at my house before to scream at me when I've hurt C's feelings) into asking her to be a bridesmaid. By asking S to be a bridesmaid, I'm running that risk pretty strongly.

So, I guess I'm just looking to pick your brains and see what you ladies think.

tl;dr:

1) I have already asked A and my sister to be bridesmaids
2) I want to ask my friend S to be a bridesmaid
3) I am worried that my childhood friend C will be upset that she is not a bridesmaid
4) Keeping our sides even was a way to "explain" why I didn't ask C; if I ask S, the sides won't be even

For the record:

My partner and I feel very strongly that people in the wedding party are guests of honor who are important to us and our relationship. We are declining all offers of a bridal shower, and if people do want to throw bachelor/ette parties, we're going to request a low-key joint party. We will not be requiring any particular attire (although A and my sister pretty much twisted my arm until I gave guidelines). We're going to ask my sister and one of my partner's brothers do a reading during the ceremony, and the other brother and A will be asked to give a toast during the reception. If S is another bridesmaid, we'll either ask her to do a reading, carry the rings, or anything else she'd like to do.
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Re: Bridesmaid musings

  • I think you're fine to ask S. I don't think she'll feel slighted or like an afterthought (at least I wouldn't), and it seems like you really want to do it.

    I do think that if you ask S, you lose your excuse for not asking C. Could you instead ask C to do one of the readings, or are there not enough to go around?

    I guess, if it comes down to it, which will hurt you more -- looking back 20 years from now and NOT having S standing beside your, or worrying that your exclusion of C caused a rift?

    FTR, a friend of mine and I promised each other the same thing when we were kids -- that we'd be each other's BMs. You know what? I wasn't invited to her wedding and she wasn't invited to mine. And it's not that we don't still like each other or don't still care about each other, it's just that we've realised we've grown apart, and the BM role wasn't really appropriate anymore. 

    Go for it; ask S!
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  • Does your FI have another friend he wants up there with him? That would cover the even sides. Truth is you should really ask S to be in your bridal party. C might be a bit upset but maybe she could have another special role? She could be in charge of the programs or guest book or give a reading during the ceremony.
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  • So for us, asking someone to do a reading is akin to having them be in the wedding party. Our ideal ceremony involves my sister and one his brothers do readings, and then during the reception, A and my partner's other brother would give toasts. For S, we'd either ask her to do a third reading or carry the rings.

    My partner has already indicated that he's not going to ask anyone else to stand up with him besides his brothers. I think I could push him to ask another friend, but he really doesn't want to.

    I feel terrible saying this because of how close C and I used to be, but I'm not really interested in involving her in a particular way. I have other friends that I'm closer to (more people from grad school, friends from college, a group of people I met through social media, some of my family members, and even one of my future sisters-in-law). At the point where I'd start involving C, I'd feel irritated that I wasn't involving some of those other people.

    I'm not going to ask her to do programs/guest book--we're not asking any people to do any jobs.
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  • I think you should just ask S to be in the wedding party. C is an adult and I'm sure she knows that you and her aren't as close as you used to be. If she doesn't ask why she was asked to be a BM (which would be really rude of her) just say you wanted to keep it small and then change the subject.


  • I'm on team ask S. I don't think the timing of when you ask someone to be a part of the wedding party is important as long as the person wasn't a backup/replacement for a member of the wedding party. It doesn't sound as though this is the case (and I don't think you would ever do that), so its safe to ask S. That being said, you shouldn't feel bad about not asking C. From what I've read, even though C is a part of your life (and has been for quite some time), it seems as though you aren't as close to her as you are to A, your sister, and S. It's possible to avoid talking about bridal party related conversations with C, and if its brought up, you could change the subject.  @Phira, I admire the fact that you are taking C's feelings into account and are worried about what this could do to your friendship. Wedding parties are tricky, and it is possible that some feelings may be hurt along the way. Ultimately you're the one who chooses the bridal party, and you can't control how someone will react to not being asked. If C's mom comes storming at you, you are not obligated to explain yourself. IMHO if someone is willing to throw away years of friendship over not being asked to be in your bridal party, maybe the friendship wasn't that strong to begin with. 
  • I learned the hard way, from my own wedding... if you want someone to be in your BP...ask them.  And if you don't want someone there, but are just asking them as the lesser of two evils, don't do it.

    Honestly, @LivLeighton was more of a BM to me at my wedding than several of my BMs.

    My BMs were my cousin S, my cousin D, my childhood best friend V (who was my MOH), and my SIL.  I only included D because of the wrath that I would've gotten if I didn't.  She didn't speak to me at ALL on my wedding day, and looked sort of pissed off the whole time.

    Honestly, follow your heart.  And I hate to be THAT person, but...it is YOUR day.  Not C's.
  • I think you should just ask S to be in the wedding party. C is an adult and I'm sure she knows that you and her aren't as close as you used to be. If she doesn't ask why she was asked to be a BM (which would be really rude of her) just say you wanted to keep it small and then change the subject.
    This was exactly what I was going to say. What I've learned about my wedding, now that's it's been several months, is that it's really a snapshot in time. It's a mixture of all the people who have loved and supported you over the years, but it's also a reflection on who is important to you AT THAT MOMENT. There were two people in our wedding (one usher, one reader) who we didn't even know 13 months before. So if we'd gotten engaged after a year and married a year later, they wouldn't have even been invited. So don't feel bad for making decisions about what your relationship is like with someone RIGHT NOW, versus five years ago.
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  • we had 7 BMs, 6 GM, and one BB (best boy, H's littlest little bro) PLUS 3 little girls and a RB and FG in our wedding...  all because H's family is very petty and jealous and EVERYONE had to be involved or there'd be hell to pay.  and in fact, we didn't include enough of the kids so there was a huge blow-up anyway.

    we also had 425 people show up to our wedding.

    so, I'm in the boat of don't include people just because they'd get their feelers hurt and be angry with you.  you'll look back on your pictures later and wonder, why the heck did I give in to that??
  • @phira - I think PPs here have pretty much said everything I was going to say. To me, it doesn't sound like you and C are very close at all. If you want S to be in your wedding party, she should be! You know who you want to have in your wedding and who you don't. Any other decision you'd make would be for someone else and not because it's what you'd truely want.
  • I agree with PPs, but I'm also wondering if there is a big part of C's mom in this. You said her mom is the one who came by and complained. Why didn't C tell you herself? I'm thinking her mom may have been more offended than her. Either way, definitely agree that this isn't something that should end a friendship if the friendship is worth it. 

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  • Thanks so much for the feedback everyone!! I know a lot of it was kind of, "I already know what I want to do, so validate me!" but I just wanted to make sure that I wasn't doing something unkind by asking S after asking my other bridesmaids.

    Things with C are just very weird. The two of us used to be SO close that it's honestly very sad to me that I don't even feel comfortable having her in the wedding party.

    Her mom is kind of ... odd. She was a second mom to me for a long time, and when I called C to tell her I was engaged, I also told her mom, and her mom said, "I'd better be invited to this wedding!" I side-stepped it, but we're not inviting friends' parents, and for a lot of reasons, I don't like spending time with C's family anymore.

    The time she came over and screamed at me was pretty terrible. It was C's birthday (I can't remember which year--maybe 17th or 18th), and C and I made big birthday plans. She called me a  few days before her birthday and told me that she had to cancel on me; two of her other friends (whose mothers were also friends with her mother) had planned a big day-long celebration for her.

    I was really upset about it. I didn't think it was fair of C to cancel on me, and I also felt like they could just invite me along for the day-long celebration. I vented about it on my blog, which I didn't know C had found. C read it and was devastated, and her mom was so upset that I made C cry that she came over and screamed at me for being ungrateful and hurtful and nasty. C had tried to prevent her mom from coming over, so I knew it wasn't like C had egged her mom on to come harass me. But it was still really pretty terrible, and I honestly can't believe it happened. I know that I made a mistake venting on a blog about it, but I still think what C did in the first place was pretty damn rude!
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  • That sounds awful! I think I'd have trouble being friends with someone if their mom was that crazy! I really hate it when parents get involved in their children's fights with other people.


  • Second @bethsmiles. C's mom needs to step out. It isn't her place, especially now that C is much older I'm guessing? If she's in her 20s, she can handle her own friend circle and drama.

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  • Does your FI have another friend he wants up there with him? That would cover the even sides. Truth is you should really ask S to be in your bridal party. C might be a bit upset but maybe she could have another special role? She could be in charge of the programs or guest book or give a reading during the ceremony.
    Ask S. You'll feel worse after the fact if you don't, because I can tell that you really want her to be a part of your day. 

    Please, please, PLEASE don't do one of the bolded things above. Programs & guest book are not "special roles." And don't let anyone convince you that they are.



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  • Does your FI have another friend he wants up there with him? That would cover the even sides. Truth is you should really ask S to be in your bridal party. C might be a bit upset but maybe she could have another special role? She could be in charge of the programs or guest book or give a reading during the ceremony.
    Please don't do this. 



  • Don't worry. The only things we'd ask S to do would be to carry/hold the rings during the ceremony or give a reading (or, if she accepts and comes up with something else she'd rather do; I'm out of ideas besides those things).

    And yeah, C is in her mid-20s now, but I could write a frickin novel about how it's still a very real possibility that we might have a replay of what happened 10 years ago.
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