Wedding Party

to invite or not to invite...is is rude...

I know, I know....if I have to ask if it is rude, it is rude...but I am not sure on this one.

In May I asked 2 girls to be my bridesmaids in my wedding which will be in May of this year.  I have 1 man of honer and then had these two.  Both girls happily agreed and we (my honey and I) picked the date of the wedding based on their availability.  (I know, this was my first mistake-regardless...please keep reading).  Both of these girls are super cool and I love their friendship.  I wanted them to be in the wedding so much that I was willing to move the wedding date around to make sure they could both be in attendance. BM 1 had the date we ended up going with as her only open date between May and August (her daughter graduates from high school the following weekend or the weekend after and she is planning to go out for a couple shows--she acts which would fill all of june-august). 

BM 1 said, 'oh no...how much planning do we have to do and what about all the parties'... I told them both there was no need for any parties or any other type of thing that would 'put them out' and they both agreed based on no expectations needed from them.  They did want to go look at dresses with me though and over the summer (we all work in education and have the summer off) we planned a day to go look at dresses for all of us.  BM 1 said she wanted to try on wedding dresses too because she wants to renew her vows with her hubby at some point.  We picked a date to dress shop and they both flaked.  BM 2 was sick and BM 1 never responded.  So I went alone to go find my dress and found the dress by myself--well I guess the sales lady was there. I then started looking at dresses for them and was doing my best to keep the price below $50.  They were fine with that price point.  I then told them they didn't need to help with any wedding planning or anything as I would take care of all of it.  I even said no need to show up to rehearsal/dinner as all I needed for them to do was show up, put on a dress, hold some flowers and walk down the aisle with me.  This conversation occurred in June-August. They agreed and were glad to not have all the excess responsibilities. 

Fast forward to the day BM 1 gets the 'save the date' card in the mail-mid December.  I get an email from her (not a phone call) to let me know that she has thought things over a bit more and she has decided that since she only has one child, and she is graduating from high school and there is a lot of planning that goes into her graduation, that she has decided to decline my offer for her to be a BM.  UGH!  So, then I grab my phone and text BM 2 to see if she is still planning to be involved...(they both work together).  The text response I get from her is that she feels too fat to put her body in a dress and she would prefer to make the wedding cake and come as a guest.  I was super devastated and wanted to cancel the whole thing altogether.  So then BM 2 got a call from BM 1 who told her what she had just sent to me and then BM 2 quickly sent a text telling me that I had caught her at a bad time and that she will gladly be a BM and that she was caught in a bad spot where she was feeling badly about her body.  She said she would go on a diet, etc.  I then told her that a cake and her size don't matter to me, I wanted the girls to be there for me...and with little to zero pressure on them.  sigh---BM 2 then said she wanted to know if she could get back to me by jan 15 to let me know if she was in or out.  I told her no thanks...to just come as a guest and we are all good.  BM 1 then sent another email saying she felt bad that she was being flaky and that she didn't' want me to be bummed so she would be in the wedding.  In the end I send BM 1 an email saying that I don't want her in the bridal party if she is doing it because she feels badly about letting me down or for pity or any other similar reason.  I wanted them there for me as friends...and there were no pressures being put on them.  I told her family comes first and that she needs to focus on her daughter.

OK...here is the question.  I am still planning on inviting BM 2 because she was cool about saying she was feeling guilty about her weight and she wants to be there as a guest. So---she is still invited.  BM 1 is my question.....I don't think I should invite her.  But I am not sure if perhaps I should invite her since I sent her the save the date card.  I think I should NOT invite BM 1 because the time it would take to attend the wedding is the same amount of time/energy it would take for her to be in the wedding--she would still have the 30 minute drive to and from the wedding...she would maybe have to be there a couple hours early in order to bang out pictures...but I was willing to have her arrive 30 minutes in advance and then knock out the pictures after the wedding.  Anyway...the question...do I invite BM 1 or not?  Is it super rude for me to not invite even though I sent the save the date card to her?

thanks for any thoughts on this.

Re: to invite or not to invite...is is rude...

  • You're right, it would be rude to un-invite her at this point.  Honestly, it sounds like these ladies don't feel as close to you as you do to them.  What do you want of the relationship with BM 1 going forward and after the wedding?  Do you still want to be friends?

    I would say be the bigger person and send the invitation.  She'll probably decline regardless, but if the friendship ends, you'll know that you didn't add fuel to the fire.  
  • good point....thanks!  I am still on the fence...I have to separate out my hurt feelings...much of which I put on myself since I pulled all the demands off of them and picked the day that worked for her and not me...so I took on a lot of the points that I feel resentful about.  Forgiveness....I can do it.  

    On a super positive note....I called 2 other gals who agreed to be BM and one of them initiated us all getting together this evening to go over plans and details so they can be on the same page.  :)  

    When one door closes...another one opens and things work out the way they should...the girls are coming over tonight to work out details and start planning...they WANT to be apart of it.  One even cried when I asked her  :)  Felling blessed and sorting out the issues with BM 1.  I think by the time the invites go out, I won't be as butt hurt!   Ironically, she will likely attend the wedding...
  • If at one point you considered them close enough to be your bridesmaid, why not send her an invite? Like PP said, she could easily decline. Wedding drama/stress is a terrible reason to break up friendships, unless that friendship was doomed already.
    You have a great outlook, though! When one door closes, another door opens! Fantastic!! (:
  • I would still invite BM 1.  Unless someone has assaulted you or done something as serious/dangerous, I think that everyone who gets a STD needs to get an invitation.  If she can't attend the wedding she will just decline on the RSVP.  
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  • good point....thanks!  I am still on the fence...I have to separate out my hurt feelings...much of which I put on myself since I pulled all the demands off of them and picked the day that worked for her and not me...so I took on a lot of the points that I feel resentful about.  Forgiveness....I can do it.  

    On a super positive note....I called 2 other gals who agreed to be BM and one of them initiated us all getting together this evening to go over plans and details so they can be on the same page.  :)  

    When one door closes...another one opens and things work out the way they should...the girls are coming over tonight to work out details and start planning...they WANT to be apart of it.  One even cried when I asked her  :)  Felling blessed and sorting out the issues with BM 1.  I think by the time the invites go out, I won't be as butt hurt!   Ironically, she will likely attend the wedding...

    I don't want to be Debbie Downer, but that was really rude.  Don't these girls know that you already had BMs picked out and they they're second string?  You don't have to replace BMs when they drop out.  It says to the old ones "you're easily replaced" while also saying to the new ones "you weren't my top choice, but those girls bailed."

     

    Obviously this is already done, but still...i figured i'd point it out.  i'm happy your new BMs are excited about it at least.  If i was one of them, I'd be offended.

     

    If you sent a STD you have to send an invite.  i can't believe that you'd be willing to lose your friendhip with a girl who was originally in your bridal party - and that's what will happen if you un-invite her.

  • You should not have replaced them. You should still invite them and be the bigger person. 
    What did you think would happen if you walked up to a group of internet strangers and told them to get shoehorned by their lady doc?~StageManager14
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  • I know, I know....if I have to ask if it is rude, it is rude...but I am not sure on this one.

    In May I asked 2 girls to be my bridesmaids in my wedding which will be in May of this year.  I have 1 man of honer and then had these two.  Both girls happily agreed and we (my honey and I) picked the date of the wedding based on their availability.  (I know, this was my first mistake-regardless...please keep reading).  Both of these girls are super cool and I love their friendship.  I wanted them to be in the wedding so much that I was willing to move the wedding date around to make sure they could both be in attendance. BM 1 had the date we ended up going with as her only open date between May and August (her daughter graduates from high school the following weekend or the weekend after and she is planning to go out for a couple shows--she acts which would fill all of june-august). 

    BM 1 said, 'oh no...how much planning do we have to do and what about all the parties'... I told them both there was no need for any parties or any other type of thing that would 'put them out' and they both agreed based on no expectations needed from them.  They did want to go look at dresses with me though and over the summer (we all work in education and have the summer off) we planned a day to go look at dresses for all of us.  BM 1 said she wanted to try on wedding dresses too because she wants to renew her vows with her hubby at some point.  We picked a date to dress shop and they both flaked.  BM 2 was sick and BM 1 never responded.  So I went alone to go find my dress and found the dress by myself--well I guess the sales lady was there. I then started looking at dresses for them and was doing my best to keep the price below $50.  They were fine with that price point.  I then told them they didn't need to help with any wedding planning or anything as I would take care of all of it.  I even said no need to show up to rehearsal/dinner as all I needed for them to do was show up, put on a dress, hold some flowers and walk down the aisle with me.  This conversation occurred in June-August. They agreed and were glad to not have all the excess responsibilities. 

    Fast forward to the day BM 1 gets the 'save the date' card in the mail-mid December.  I get an email from her (not a phone call) to let me know that she has thought things over a bit more and she has decided that since she only has one child, and she is graduating from high school and there is a lot of planning that goes into her graduation, that she has decided to decline my offer for her to be a BM.  UGH!  So, then I grab my phone and text BM 2 to see if she is still planning to be involved...(they both work together).  The text response I get from her is that she feels too fat to put her body in a dress and she would prefer to make the wedding cake and come as a guest.  I was super devastated and wanted to cancel the whole thing altogether.  So then BM 2 got a call from BM 1 who told her what she had just sent to me and then BM 2 quickly sent a text telling me that I had caught her at a bad time and that she will gladly be a BM and that she was caught in a bad spot where she was feeling badly about her body.  She said she would go on a diet, etc.  I then told her that a cake and her size don't matter to me, I wanted the girls to be there for me...and with little to zero pressure on them.  sigh---BM 2 then said she wanted to know if she could get back to me by jan 15 to let me know if she was in or out.  I told her no thanks...to just come as a guest and we are all good.  BM 1 then sent another email saying she felt bad that she was being flaky and that she didn't' want me to be bummed so she would be in the wedding.  In the end I send BM 1 an email saying that I don't want her in the bridal party if she is doing it because she feels badly about letting me down or for pity or any other similar reason.  I wanted them there for me as friends...and there were no pressures being put on them.  I told her family comes first and that she needs to focus on her daughter.

    OK...here is the question.  I am still planning on inviting BM 2 because she was cool about saying she was feeling guilty about her weight and she wants to be there as a guest. So---she is still invited.  BM 1 is my question.....I don't think I should invite her.  But I am not sure if perhaps I should invite her since I sent her the save the date card.  I think I should NOT invite BM 1 because the time it would take to attend the wedding is the same amount of time/energy it would take for her to be in the wedding--she would still have the 30 minute drive to and from the wedding...she would maybe have to be there a couple hours early in order to bang out pictures...but I was willing to have her arrive 30 minutes in advance and then knock out the pictures after the wedding.  Anyway...the question...do I invite BM 1 or not?  Is it super rude for me to not invite even though I sent the save the date card to her?

    thanks for any thoughts on this.
    It sounds like you were more friends with these ladies than they were with you.  That sucks, but it happens in life.  Still send the invite to both ladies.  STD = invitation, it will only make you look bad to not send the invitations now.

    After these ladies dropped out you should not have asked anyone else, but that ship has sailed.
  • delujm0 said:
    good point....thanks!  I am still on the fence...I have to separate out my hurt feelings...much of which I put on myself since I pulled all the demands off of them and picked the day that worked for her and not me...so I took on a lot of the points that I feel resentful about.  Forgiveness....I can do it.  

    On a super positive note....I called 2 other gals who agreed to be BM and one of them initiated us all getting together this evening to go over plans and details so they can be on the same page.  :)  

    When one door closes...another one opens and things work out the way they should...the girls are coming over tonight to work out details and start planning...they WANT to be apart of it.  One even cried when I asked her  :)  Felling blessed and sorting out the issues with BM 1.  I think by the time the invites go out, I won't be as butt hurt!   Ironically, she will likely attend the wedding...

    I don't want to be Debbie Downer, but that was really rude.  Don't these girls know that you already had BMs picked out and they they're second string?  You don't have to replace BMs when they drop out.  It says to the old ones "you're easily replaced" while also saying to the new ones "you weren't my top choice, but those girls bailed."

     

    Obviously this is already done, but still...i figured i'd point it out.  i'm happy your new BMs are excited about it at least.  If i was one of them, I'd be offended.

     

    If you sent a STD you have to send an invite.  i can't believe that you'd be willing to lose your friendhip with a girl who was originally in your bridal party - and that's what will happen if you un-invite her.

    It sounds to me that BM1 isn't really WORRIED about her friendship with the OP. I'm sorry but people are not dumb(or maybe they are) and when you agree to be a BM, you have to at least KNOW that the bride holds you close to their heart and it's important to them that you(BM) show up and participate. I understand that this woman has a daughter graduating and whatnot, but really, what's one weekend?

    Etiquette calls for an invitation.. If she shows up or doesn't I think your friendship is already ruined... her loss.

    As for the replacing the BMs thing.. i think it sucks that brides have to suffer when BM's drop out... so she shouldn't be able to have a bridal party b/c two girls flaked?... lame.
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  • Thanks~  I will be very honest---I was/am being super selfish and that is why I asked the other 2 girls to join me (by the way-they do not know they are second string).  With the 2 girls dropping out...it left me with a man of honor-that's it.  I do not care if the sides are lopsided (my man has 5 guys on his side).  Having one man of honor on my side is cool and fun-but when it comes to getting dressed and waiting to walk down the aisle...I didn't want to be alone--trying to do the last 'finishing touches' by myself just sucks to think about.  I have been alone enough in this process (dress shopping, etc.) which was my choice because I didn't want to put the other girls out.  I am not going to cry myself to sleep over my decision to ask other girls to be in the BP with me.  They are more than happy to support me and I am very grateful for their love and support.  Crazy how I can have a spot of happiness only to have it crushed here by people telling me I made a bad decision to make a crappy situation better.  Oh well.         
  • Rest assured, this is a place where you can get honest opinions and great etiquette advice. No one was trying to crush your happiness. 

    While it was a faux pas for you to replace your bms, what's done is done. I hope you will make up for that by making them feel appreciated and loved. 
                       
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