Opposite of bridezilla- Guestzillas?!

jenna8984 · January 2014

So my friend sent me a text that she just got married privately by a JP and sent a picture of the two of them toasting wine glasses. I am so thrilled for her. She just posted it on facebook and I'm shocked....at least 5 family members (can tell by the last names) commented with sad faces and comments like "we wanted to be there, aaaw why did you do that, is there going to be a reception at a later date, we wanted to party with you" etc. I can't believe people are that self centered that they want a big party for a wedding that's NOT theirs!! Like how rude that you're basically telling her what she did isn't good enough!

JCbride2015 · January 2014

How rude. Same thing goes for guests who demand alcohol at dry receptions, etc. Just be happy for the couple! They don't owe you a party if they got married privately.

kmmssg · January 2014

Unfortunately, rudeness can be a two way street. I think it is of the highest degree of importance to take care of your guests properly. I ALSO think being a polite guest is equally important. I attended the wedding train wreck from Hell in November and knew it going in. Since I agreed to go, I acted like I would if it was not a train wreck. It was my BFFs daughter and BFF is still in tears over the whole thing. (and it is totally understandable why she would be). Her daughter thinks her wedding was awesome. Her guests sure don't think so, but to the best of my knowledge we all acted in a very polite manner.

312Emily · January 2014

kmmssg said:
Unfortunately, rudeness can be a two way street. I think it is of the highest degree of importance to take care of your guests properly. I ALSO think being a polite guest is equally important. I attended the wedding train wreck from Hell in November and knew it going in. Since I agreed to go, I acted like I would if it was not a train wreck. It was my BFFs daughter and BFF is still in tears over the whole thing. (and it is totally understandable why she would be). Her daughter thinks her wedding was awesome. Her guests sure don't think so, but to the best of my knowledge we all acted in a very polite manner.

What happened?!

jdluvr06 · January 2014

I'm sorry that the couple's families are being rude like that. I would understand if their parents were upset but I don't think cousin, aunts, uncles, ect should be making those comments.

monkeysip · January 2014

2 things:

First, if it were REALLY CLOSE family, like parents or someone else always super close to you, then I can definitely understand being hurt. They love you and want to witness that, and elopements can be hurtful. Of course, a couple still has every right to marry the way they want to, elopement or not. But they also have to deal with the fact that some people might be upset.

Second, even if people are hurt, facebook is NOT the place to post that. If you see the photos on facebook, don't write a negative comment on it. Facebook is not the proper venue. Give the person a phone call when the time is right to both congratulate them but also express your sad feelings (again--only if you're REALLY close to them--otherwise, just drop it).

HisGirlFriday13 · January 2014

kmmssg said:

Unfortunately, rudeness can be a two way street. I think it is of the highest degree of importance to take care of your guests properly. I ALSO think being a polite guest is equally important. I attended the wedding train wreck from Hell in November and knew it going in. Since I agreed to go, I acted like I would if it was not a train wreck. It was my BFFs daughter and BFF is still in tears over the whole thing. (and it is totally understandable why she would be). Her daughter thinks her wedding was awesome. Her guests sure don't think so, but to the best of my knowledge we all acted in a very polite manner.

Whoa, spill it, we need to hear this story!!

JaniV123 · January 2014

a friend of mine got married in a rush with her hubby's family and her mom sister and bff. No one else knew or anything. She got so much sh*it from family members and other friends because they were not invited, because they did not tell anyone they were getting married, etc.

I found out because her mom send me pics and I was thrilled! They did a civil ceremony and are planning their religious ceremony for next year. We are incredibly happy that they are doing things which ever way they want

ETA: They are basically doing a vow renewal but with a religious ceremony

kmmssg · January 2014

@HisGirlFriday13 @emilyellyse - this will be really long and I have intentionally kept it off of the worst wedding you have ever attended thread. The back-story has to be included here too - it is the whole thing that makes it so bad.

First off, there is a Christian element of "God will provide" in this thread that the groom just grabbed onto and ran away with it. He did it in a very selfish and immature way which is what caused most of the problems. I also believe God provides for my needs, but just because I tell him I want a 250 person wedding doesn't mean I can sit back and wait for Him to plop it in my lap. I am a Christian, so are the bride's parents - I would really appreciate it if this didn't end up with Christian bashing.

I have known the bride, referred to now as B, since the day she came home from the hospital as a baby. Her parents are 2 of my closest friends for the past 25 years. She is a truly lovely girl with very low self esteem. I truly believe she felt like this was her chance to be married and that is why she went through with it. She is 21.

The groom, G, is 24 and was living at home. He is a worship leader at his church and works at a small coffee house. He couldn't afford a place of his own (at 24) without a roommate and then it would have been a crap shoot.

He starts dating B (they knew each other for a few months before dating, but they didn't really hang out with each other) and right away tells her dad he is in this for the long haul and sees them getting married. My buddy was not thrilled with this but he is also a smart man who took a watch things and get to know this guy approach.

A month later they announce they are getting married and HAVE to get married in 3 months. (No, there was absolutely no premarital sex here, no baby) The reason? He had a job interview at a church 90 miles away and if he got it, they just COULDN'T be apart like that!

You have to know my friends here. They are not lavish people but they aren't cheapskates either. They are really into Dave Ramsey and doing everything with cash, not credit. They have just been told their DD is getting married in 3 months. They have never been down this road before. They told her "wait til next Summer and we can give you a nice wedding. If you do this in 3 months, we can help you a little, but it won't be very much at all." B says, "No problem! We will pay for this ourselves. B has 1300.00 to her name. G doesn't have a dime. They both live with their parents.

G is controlling. Not the good kind of controlling. He is controlling. He took the ball and ran with it. The wedding couldn't be in our town because their guest list has 250 people on it and there is no where here that will hold that many people. YES, there is. He HAD to have it an hour away where his dad's side of the family lived. There is a church camp down there with a pretty chapel and a hall - it must be there. B agrees to anything and everything G says and wants.

I approach B and say - hey, how about I share what I have with you about wedding planning. For our girls we choose venues where we can bring in our caterer of choice, a licensed bartender, buy our own alcohol, and we have to do the setup and tear down. I have a really comprehensive list of what needs to be done, how to plan it, and it nails the logistics down to a tee.

I was a Supply Sergeant for a very long time. Logistics is everything in a military operation as well as a well run wedding. Our weddings start on time, every time, and we have everything we need. I hire one of the best DOCs around to hand things off to. We have got this down.

I take B and G out to lunch and share what I have, gave them a binder to work with. I know B is truly grateful for the knowledge and materials to work with. G was pulling my leg the whole time. We talk about their ginormous guest list of 250 and their teeny tiny budget. G starts in with how people from his church have volunteered to do this, and he knows they will help with this, yada, yada, yada - to infinity and beyond. I impress upon them both that they need to be able to handle the costs and logistics of everything with only the money they have and that their budget doesn't support 150, let alone 250. I impress upon them that they could do a cake/punch shindig in the middle of the afternoon and be fine. B is all for this. We end lunch and go our separate ways. Then the shit show starts. When I was gone, G shot that down and told her they were having a late afternoon ceremony followed by dinner.

MOB is my best girlfriend. Heart of pure pure gold, but she needs to know the details of what is going on. Maybe sometimes a little too much, but that's how she is. She isn't horrible, but she needs to know that the details are in place and plans are good to go.

G tells B her parents are too controlling and they are to be left out of the details. People from his church will take care of everything. He is huge on pitting her church against his church. And he is a worship leader?

G has invitations printed (oh dear God, they were awful, a middle school student would have done as well). No envelopes, they are going to hand deliver 250 invitations. The ones that were mailed were sent in a standard envelop like you use to send a check somewhere. There is nothing to indicate WHO is being invited.

When all is said and done, 200 people attended.

Jump to less than 30 days to the wedding. B&G keep telling MOB and FOB that they have everything under control, they don't need to know the details, and quit worrying about it. MOB catches B is a kind hearted moment and gets B to spill what the food plans are. To say they were wholly and greatly lacking in enough food for 250 (they didn't know final number at this point) is an understatement of great proportion. MOB has a breakdown, B counters with the line G has given her, "Mom! We are doing our best. If we run out of food it's not our problem! We are just trying to work on our marriage!" WTH does having enough food for your guests have to do with the success of your marriage, which hasn't even taken place yet.

This occurs while my buddy, FOB, is TDY (he is still in the military) for 10 days. He is not home to help with the calamity that has just blown up. He lets me know things aren't going well and I call MOB and tell her we need to get together. I go over to their house that night while B is not home and watch my best friend with a heart of gold turn into a sobbing mess. All she wanted was a nice wedding her daughter would always remember and be proud of, she was cut out of everything, and now if it is going to be saved, it is up to her and FOB. Did I mention 45 wedding invitations were still sitting on the counter, undelivered, 3 weeks before the wedding?

This is the point where I will point out that all the big promises from members of his church start unraveling. All this promised food, help with different services, etc is being met by silence as they all start bailing. All of a sudden, there is basically NO food coming. While I am not sure exactly what happened, my theory is they got really tired of G's entitlement attitude and said "enough!"

B&G still don't think this is such a big deal as all they are trying to do is work on their marriage. MOB is now having a really good breakdown as we are maybe 2 weeks out from the wedding, we know 200 people are coming, and there is no food for a suppertime reception.

MOB/FOB attend a smaller church and are very active in it. Their church friends see something is going on and the story is shared in their small group. Everyone in their said - "Hey, no problem - we will help you." Between members of the small group, a few friends outside of the church (me and a couple of others) and the siblings of MOB/FOB, food is planned.

Bride's aunt says she will do 50 pounds of pulled pork and also potato salad. A couple from G's church who do catering as a side business said they would coordinate the kitchen and keep things on the move, filled, etc. Can you imaging coordinating food coming from all over the place/different people and trying to make it last for 200 people?

Cocktail hour: the room is packed like sardines, tables very tight, this is where the reception will be. They had a really good punch that ran out in 1/2 hour (2 liters Squirt, 2 liters gingerale, float pineapple sherbet on top. Not too sweet, really good), all the nibbles that were set out disappear in a flash because of the size of the crowd. There had been a big basket of bread (think baguette, sliced). It originally came out for cocktail hour, someone took it back to the kitchen thinking it was for the dinner, and brought it back out again when the nibbles had disappeared. Bread went in a flash. At least the iced tea, water, and coffee were still flowing.

Pulled pork sandwiches are made up ahead of time (with only 1 line for food) so by the time you got it it was not very warm at all. A friend of MOB sent a massive amount of the worst pasta salad I have ever had. Everyone has their own recipe they like, this one had no flavor at all. The serving size was maybe 1/4 cup.

Another aunt of B provides 14 pounds of ham - those football type hams, round, you slice it or shave it for sandwiches. Well, because no one knew if all the food would hold out, you got one quarter of one slice of ham.

Then there was the potato salad. Everyone has their own recipe and if this had included any kind of seasoning or some kind of flavor it might have been ok. It just tasted like potato nothing salad. The portion size MAY have been 1/4 cup, but again, no one knew how long this food was going to hold out so they were being very cautious

A friend of MOB/FOB made scalloped potatoes that were pretty good.

Because it is so crowded and the weather wasn't so great some people started leaving right after dinner. FOG starts tearing down tables! If a table cleared out, he and a couple of others removed the tablecloth and centerpiece and got rid of the table and chairs. Now, 3 or 4 tables gone would have been nice and would have really given the rest of us some breathing room, but he swooped down on any table for the rest of the night during the reception and got rid of it. We all felt like we were supposed to leave and most did.

Oh, the toasts! MOH is B's 18 yo sister. She gave one of the sweetest, funniest speeches I have ever heard. We laughed, we got choked up, we applauded - all in 2or 3 minutes of heartfelt, very sweet speech. Then...it was BM's turn. BM is a young man very active in G's church. He is known for just making speeches without preparation. He goes on about how he is known for doing that for 2 or 3 minutes. Then, I swear, he goes into a mini-sermon. It was abhorrently long and awkward and everyone was just waiting for him to get done.

The bridal shower had 32 people there - B has decided she said thank you when she was opening the gifts so she isn't doing TY cards for that. They haven't done them for the wedding 2 months ago either, and it is apparent they don't plan too. MOB is like the best TY note writer in the universe - I have saved hers from the past because they are so extraordinary. I know B was taught how important this is. MOB is incredibly embarrassed over this.

B&G are renting a house from someone in his church at a very nice rental rate. G didn't own a single thing to bring into the home. Not a glass, a fork, nothing. He moved in prior to the wedding, she came on their wedding night. Her parents found out they were eating on paper plates and using plastic forks( between when he moved in and she moved in) because G didn't own ANYTHING. They bought them some dishes and flatware at Walmart and B looks at her parents and says "Thank you so much!" G looks at her parents, then looks up above and says "God is so good, meeting all of our needs."

It has gone downhill from there. They live 1 mile from MOB/FOB but G said they had to set boundaries on how they will handle holidays so they didn't go over at all on Christmas day and went to him mom's instead. It is so apparent that G is controlling B and pulling her away from her family. B has her head stuck in the sand and is going along with all of it.

ETA: I think what really ticks me off is that G thinks his opinion of "God will provide" gave him an awesome 200 person wedding. What REALLY happened is the church friends and family of MOB/FOB rallied together because G sent out 250 invitations and then sat back on his hands waiting for God to provide this wedding he just had to have. (FTR, B would have gone to the JOP and been quite happy).

If you have read this whole thing, I have cookies for you.

312Emily · January 2014

That is the saddest thing ever. No wonder your friend is in tears. G sounds completely awful and it sounds that their daughter has a tough road ahead for her.

chibiyui · January 2014

@Kmmssg

I appreciate the cookies, but after that I need a drink. Oh man, your poor friends. Poor bride. I know this isn't christian-like, but I hope she ups and leaves him in the most public and humiliating way possible for him. He sounds like a terrible, abusive person.

kmmssg · January 2014

emilyellyse said:

That is the saddest thing ever. No wonder your friend is in tears. G sounds completely awful and it sounds that their daughter has a tough road ahead for her.

Yeah, I think you hit the nail exactly on the head. Not only are we worried about him creating such a divide between her and her family, but if and when it all falls apart, B is going to be super devastated and embarrassed.

HisGirlFriday13 · January 2014

@kmmssg, I'm with @chibiyui; I appreciate the cookies, but I need a drink.

That is one of the saddest things I have ever read on TK. I would never bash another religion, but I think G missed a few lessons in the Good Book -- like honouring thy father and mother, like respecting the elders, etc.

I am so, so, so sorry for MOB and FOB and B, because when this falls apart, it's going to be ugly. She will be devastated, and embarrassed, and shamed.

And I don't mean she should FEEL ashamed, I mean that G and his church will shame her for her failing marriage.

She is in my prayers.

kmmssg · January 2014

HisGirlFriday13 said:

@kmmssg, I'm with @chibiyui; I appreciate the cookies, but I need a drink. That is one of the saddest things I have ever read on TK. I would never bash another religion, but I think G missed a few lessons in the Good Book -- like honouring thy father and mother, like respecting the elders, etc. I am so, so, so sorry for MOB and FOB and B, because when this falls apart, it's going to be ugly. She will be devastated, and embarrassed, and shamed. And I don't mean she should FEEL ashamed, I mean that G and his church will shame her for her failing marriage. She is in my prayers.

@hisGirlFriday - thank you so much. B needs the prayers.

FOG and I carpool to work everyday. We think this is going to morph into something where her pride is on the line and she will dig her heels in. EVERYONE told them to slow it down but they refused and when she figures out what is really going on with his control she is going to be sooo embarrassed.

G's church isn't bad, but he used it as one of the tools to gain control. MOB/FOB are deeply committed Christians and FOB is head of the household - BUT he does nothing without the wise counsel of his wife and partner. He values her wisdom and respects her as his equal partner. They talked to B about her husband being the head of the household but that she must NOT make herself a doormat and that she had a vote on their life and how things go. I can tell you that G thinks what he says goes, and B is burying her head in the sand and going along with it.

Our biggest fear is them getting pregnant. B is the breadwinner by a mile in this relationship and she doesn't make much at all.

I do appreciate the offer of prayers. She truly needs them. So do MOB and FOB but they are sticking close by one another, working through this, and praying an awful lot. They are good beans.

Oh - and I seriously needed a drink after writing that!

jenna8984 · January 2014

Wow that whole story is incredibly sad. I think your friends (MOB & FOB) handled it amazingly...if I presented my parents with the same situation they probably would have said you're being stupid so you're on your own. I know you are always supposed to support your children in their decisions (and I don't have kids so it's hard to say) but I find them saints for being able to support this disaster of a relationship.

kmmssg · January 2014

jenna8984 said:

Wow that whole story is incredibly sad. I think your friends (MOB & FOB) handled it amazingly...if I presented my parents with the same situation they probably would have said you're being stupid so you're on your own. I know you are always supposed to support your children in their decisions (and I don't have kids so it's hard to say) but I find them saints for being able to support this disaster of a relationship.

@jenna8984 - it became painfully obvious to my friends that if they wash their hands of the situation G will gain control more rapidly and they won't see her. They knew keeping their mouths shut and staying as close as they could with her was their best option. But...nothing like finding out you need to feed 200 people with 2 weeks notice! They are awesome.

manateehugger · January 2014

Wow, @kmmssg, my prayers are with your friends and their daughter. What a royal mess. I can't imagine how helpless and frustrated her parents feel - like losing a daughter even though she's only a mile away.

And for B to feel like a husband who controls but wont provide is acceptable is probably the saddest thing.

I think there is more than one way to be unfaithful for an eventual divorce. Here's hoping that G realizes God probably wont take too kindly to His name being used in vain or that B can become a strong woman in her own right and hold out for a husband who is faithful to his vows to her.

Prayers and a virtual drink headed your way.

kmmssg · January 2014

@PDKH - thanks! It's a good thing FOG stays focused on his faith because he is a some -degree blackbelt in Tai Kwon Do and he scores "expert" when he goes to the rifle range.

My friends reared their girls to be strong and independent, to be smart with money, to take care of themselves. Their mom (MOB) was very independent and established before she married FOG. They were not raised to depend on a man for everything and to be doormats. We are just praying and trying to maintain lots of friendly contact so one day, if B decides she needs to leave, there are plenty of people she can turn to.

misshart00 · January 2014

@kmmssg That whole story makes me so sad. Even if it wasn't very good, it was so great of her church to pitch in and try to fix the situation.

HaileyDancingbear · January 2014

To be completely honest the saddest part of that story, to me, is that B is still with this guy. I get that it's important to work on a relationship. But being controlled by your SO is not something you "Work on," ever. I know everyone has different definitions of a "Happy" relationship, but what I consider a universal requirement, is that if you ever ask yourself "Am I comfortable expressing myself and being who I am?" the answer better be yes. It doesn't sound like B would honestly be able say yes to that.

Also, I would never bash anyone for their religion- I am not religious myself, but I believe that anything that inspires you to be a better person is great, and if religion makes you happy and inspires you to be a good person, that's beautiful no matter what that religion is. But given that I appreciate religion for its ability to inspire people to be good, I have to say I can't stand religious people like G- When you use religion as an excuse to act entitled or treat others poorly, that's not ok. TBH I think it's offensive to the religion you follow when you use it as an excuse to justify your own selfishness. It's supposed to be sacred, not a tool to get what you want.

kmmssg · January 2014

HaileyDancingbear said:

To be completely honest the saddest part of that story, to me, is that B is still with this guy. I get that it's important to work on a relationship. But being controlled by your SO is not something you "Work on," ever. I know everyone has different definitions of a "Happy" relationship, but what I consider a universal requirement, is that if you ever ask yourself "Am I comfortable expressing myself and being who I am?" the answer better be yes. It doesn't sound like B would honestly be able say yes to that.

Also, I would never bash anyone for their religion- I am not religious myself, but I believe that anything that inspires you to be a better person is great, and if religion makes you happy and inspires you to be a good person, that's beautiful no matter what that religion is. But given that I appreciate religion for its ability to inspire people to be good, I have to say I can't stand religious people like G- When you use religion as an excuse to act entitled or treat others poorly, that's not ok. TBH I think it's offensive to the religion you follow when you use it as an excuse to justify your own selfishness. It's supposed to be sacred, not a tool to get what you want.

@HaileyDancingbear - I could not agree more with your post. I know she is with him because she is very insecure in herself and (I think) is afraid to rock the boat because she will be alone. To a point of "brain-washing lite", I think there is a huge problem here. They were at her parents house before the wedding with her younger sister there. He was making eggs and B said she wanted some cheese on them. He told her she didn't need the cheese (silently inferring she needed to watch her weight). She said "but I want cheese!" He told her no, and she gave in but her sister could see she was quite upset. When we got a glimpse of that little scenario we knew the situation had the potential to get much worse for her so we do what we can to keep an open dialogue and relationship with her.

I seriously hate running into the both of them because I have to turn on sappy sweet charm with him when I really want to wring his neck.

HaileyDancingbear · January 2014

kmmssg said:

HaileyDancingbear said:

To be completely honest the saddest part of that story, to me, is that B is still with this guy. I get that it's important to work on a relationship. But being controlled by your SO is not something you "Work on," ever. I know everyone has different definitions of a "Happy" relationship, but what I consider a universal requirement, is that if you ever ask yourself "Am I comfortable expressing myself and being who I am?" the answer better be yes. It doesn't sound like B would honestly be able say yes to that.

Also, I would never bash anyone for their religion- I am not religious myself, but I believe that anything that inspires you to be a better person is great, and if religion makes you happy and inspires you to be a good person, that's beautiful no matter what that religion is. But given that I appreciate religion for its ability to inspire people to be good, I have to say I can't stand religious people like G- When you use religion as an excuse to act entitled or treat others poorly, that's not ok. TBH I think it's offensive to the religion you follow when you use it as an excuse to justify your own selfishness. It's supposed to be sacred, not a tool to get what you want.

@HaileyDancingbear - I could not agree more with your post. I know she is with him because she is very insecure in herself and (I think) is afraid to rock the boat because she will be alone. To a point of "brain-washing lite", I think there is a huge problem here. They were at her parents house before the wedding with her younger sister there. He was making eggs and B said she wanted some cheese on them. He told her she didn't need the cheese (silently inferring she needed to watch her weight). She said "but I want cheese!" He told her no, and she gave in but her sister could see she was quite upset. When we got a glimpse of that little scenario we knew the situation had the potential to get much worse for her so we do what we can to keep an open dialogue and relationship with her.

I seriously hate running into the both of them because I have to turn on sappy sweet charm with him when I really want to wring his neck.

I've never had any friends be controlled by a SO to the extent that B is, but I've definitely had friends end up trapped in horrible relationships for that exact reason. My MOH was stuck in one and there were times where I was pretty much yelling at her to quit being so friggin hard on herself. She's a beautiful, amazing person and it was killing me that she couldn't get that through her head because of one asshole. I think eventually, between seeing a therapist and spending more time with her close friends, she managed to build up the confidence to say "You know what, I deserve better" and ditch him. She was miserable for a little while after that but now she's happier than she ever was with him.

I'm not sure if it's your place, or someone else's, but I think someone needs to have a serious talk with B about how some of the stuff G is doing is not ok and that she is a wonderful person who deserves better. Obviously it shouldn't be phrased as bluntly as I put it, as being too blunt could cause her to shut you down. And before this serious talk, I think B needs to spend a lot of time around people who are going to build her up. Insecurity is why control in a relationship happens, and she needs to build confidence in herself. She needs to be reminded that she is loved regardless of wether or not G is around.

I know the situations are different, but that's basically what I did for my MOH.

pinkshorts27 · February 2014

kmmssg That is so sad and I've seen it happen all to often. Also, would never bash religion, because I am a hardworking Christian and know so many hardworking Christians, that I know it isn't the religion. This is using religion as an excuse to do what you want. It is terrible.

kmmssg · February 2014

blueeyes90 said:

kmmssg That is so sad and I've seen it happen all to often. Also, would never bash religion, because I am a hardworking Christian and know so many hardworking Christians, that I know it isn't the religion. This is using religion as an excuse to do what you want. It is terrible.

You are absolutely right. We found out this week they are expecting a baby. He is telling her what hospital they will use and day "we'll see" when she said what doctor she wanted.

AddieCake · February 2014

@kmmssg

Oh, good grief! What a mess, and I feel so bad for this young woman and her family!

sarahufl · February 2014

monkeysip said:

2 things:

First, if it were REALLY CLOSE family, like parents or someone else always super close to you, then I can definitely understand being hurt. They love you and want to witness that, and elopements can be hurtful. Of course, a couple still has every right to marry the way they want to, elopement or not. But they also have to deal with the fact that some people might be upset.

Second, even if people are hurt, facebook is NOT the place to post that. If you see the photos on facebook, don't write a negative comment on it. Facebook is not the proper venue. Give the person a phone call when the time is right to both congratulate them but also express your sad feelings (again--only if you're REALLY close to them--otherwise, just drop it).

yes, to all of the above. FB is NOT the place to share news with family. Anytime I share news on FB, it is only being heard for the first time by random folks from high school AFTER the important people find out.

WildMagelet · February 2014

@kmmssg

Definitely T&P for your friends and their daughter. I can only imagine with her being pregnant that it is going to get worse =(

HaileyDancingbear · February 2014

kmmssg said:

blueeyes90 said:

kmmssg That is so sad and I've seen it happen all to often. Also, would never bash religion, because I am a hardworking Christian and know so many hardworking Christians, that I know it isn't the religion. This is using religion as an excuse to do what you want. It is terrible.

You are absolutely right. We found out this week they are expecting a baby. He is telling her what hospital they will use and day "we'll see" when she said what doctor she wanted.

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO that poor kid!

Amyzen83 · February 2014

Good gravy of course he'd get her pregnant because now she for sure can't leave him. Dear lord I feel bad for b and her parents more for the parents because b made her choices, but I definately feel for you and your friends. Kudos to the parents for stepping in like that!

chibiyui · February 2014

kmmssg said:

blueeyes90 said:

kmmssg That is so sad and I've seen it happen all to often. Also, would never bash religion, because I am a hardworking Christian and know so many hardworking Christians, that I know it isn't the religion. This is using religion as an excuse to do what you want. It is terrible.

You are absolutely right. We found out this week they are expecting a baby. He is telling her what hospital they will use and day "we'll see" when she said what doctor she wanted.

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