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Bridesmaid dress help. Kinda long...

Hello! This is my first post on the Knot :) I became engaged to the love of my life in September 2013 in the Dominican Republic and our wedding is September 6th, 2014 :)

Both my friends (bridesmaids) and I are new to the wedding world and after going through posts about bridesmaid dresses and the cost, I've become a little mad at myself. I'm a very indecisive person and I finally settled on a bridal shop I wanted all my girls to go to, to buy their dresses. I made a big mistake in not asking what everyones budget was and I feel really bad about it now. I plan on sending out an apology tomorrow to each of them, apologizing for not asking for their dress budget before hand and that I will be more considerate toward their finances on anything in the future, even though the dresses are all they have to pay for, and shoes if they don't have any, their choice in style as well, just nude in color. This is my bad (Sorry! I don't want to get yelled at on here :b ), and I feel really bad about it, but it's not the problem I'm having.

The dresses were in the $200 or so range and plus a 15% discount. They knew the color to get, chiffon, and short but any style they liked. My MOH sent out a massive email to all the girls explaining the shop, and the price range of the dresses, it was very detailed, organized and to the point. They've known they were going to be bridesmaids basically since I got engaged with the exception of maybe two girls. It may just be the logical thing for me to do, as well as my MOH as we agree with each other, if you know you're going to be a bridesmaid, shouldn't you start saving a small amount of money for your dress, shoes, jewelry, etc? This is my own opinion and I know others won't agree with it, thats fine. It's what I would do if I knew I was going to be in a wedding. Only one bridesmaid complained about the price (See Below).

My one friend, who out of all the girls, spends tons of her money on LV handbags, Tory Burch shoes, LB shoes and all sorts of expensive things, complained about the cost. This was today, the day she bought her dress, (Tuesday) when Saturday she asked me to go to the mall with her to return some Steve Madden shoes and to buy TWO pairs of Tory Burch sandals that would cost well over $200. Maybe I'm being insensitive but I guess I'm a little put off by the fact she has no problem dropping over $200 on shoes but she's complaining about a dress she obviously can afford thats for my wedding. It's silly but I suppose I feel second to the shoes, I feel like its a burden for her to buy her bridesmaid dress. She even said she was going to give us a $500 wedding gift which I told her wasn't necessary at all. Her last text to me tonight was "I'm don't talking about it." I feel like outside of wedding things, money is no issue, then all of a sudden it is for my special day.

Going back to the email, my friend said she never got it but also never bothered to check her junk mail or text my MOH asking her to send it again so she had all the details before she went dress shopping. My MOH sent out a text telling everyone she sent and email to them, I triple checked all numbers I gave her and the email addresses before I sent them. So I know she got it, it just probably went to her junk folder, which happened to another person but they found it okay. She was really snooty in her text to me when I asked if she could try looking for it in her junk folder. "How am I supposed to find it if I never got it?" Is what she said. I know texting can sometimes read in different tones to different people.

I could be totally crazy and insensitive, but I don't know how to handle this situation with my friend. Help? Thanks :)

Re: Bridesmaid dress help. Kinda long...

  • Typo! Sorry, This:
    ""Her last text to me tonight was "I'm don't talking about it.""
     was supposed to be "I'm done talking about it."  Not don't.
  • Hello! This is my first post on the Knot :) I became engaged to the love of my life in September 2013 in the Dominican Republic and our wedding is September 6th, 2014 :)

    Both my friends (bridesmaids) and I are new to the wedding world and after going through posts about bridesmaid dresses and the cost, I've become a little mad at myself. I'm a very indecisive person and I finally settled on a bridal shop I wanted all my girls to go to, to buy their dresses. I made a big mistake in not asking what everyones budget was and I feel really bad about it now. I plan on sending out an apology tomorrow to each of them, apologizing for not asking for their dress budget before hand and that I will be more considerate toward their finances on anything in the future, even though the dresses are all they have to pay for, and shoes if they don't have any, their choice in style as well, just nude in color. This is my bad (Sorry! I don't want to get yelled at on here :b ), and I feel really bad about it, but it's not the problem I'm having.

    The dresses were in the $200 or so range and plus a 15% discount. They knew the color to get, chiffon, and short but any style they liked. My MOH sent out a massive email to all the girls explaining the shop, and the price range of the dresses, it was very detailed, organized and to the point. They've known they were going to be bridesmaids basically since I got engaged with the exception of maybe two girls. It may just be the logical thing for me to do, as well as my MOH as we agree with each other, if you know you're going to be a bridesmaid, shouldn't you start saving a small amount of money for your dress, shoes, jewelry, etc? This is my own opinion and I know others won't agree with it, thats fine. It's what I would do if I knew I was going to be in a wedding. Only one bridesmaid complained about the price (See Below).

    My one friend, who out of all the girls, spends tons of her money on LV handbags, Tory Burch shoes, LB shoes and all sorts of expensive things, complained about the cost. This was today, the day she bought her dress, (Tuesday) when Saturday she asked me to go to the mall with her to return some Steve Madden shoes and to buy TWO pairs of Tory Burch sandals that would cost well over $200. Maybe I'm being insensitive but I guess I'm a little put off by the fact she has no problem dropping over $200 on shoes but she's complaining about a dress she obviously can afford thats for my wedding. It's silly but I suppose I feel second to the shoes, I feel like its a burden for her to buy her bridesmaid dress. She even said she was going to give us a $500 wedding gift which I told her wasn't necessary at all. Her last text to me tonight was "I'm don't talking about it." I feel like outside of wedding things, money is no issue, then all of a sudden it is for my special day.

    Going back to the email, my friend said she never got it but also never bothered to check her junk mail or text my MOH asking her to send it again so she had all the details before she went dress shopping. My MOH sent out a text telling everyone she sent and email to them, I triple checked all numbers I gave her and the email addresses before I sent them. So I know she got it, it just probably went to her junk folder, which happened to another person but they found it okay. She was really snooty in her text to me when I asked if she could try looking for it in her junk folder. "How am I supposed to find it if I never got it?" Is what she said. I know texting can sometimes read in different tones to different people.

    I could be totally crazy and insensitive, but I don't know how to handle this situation with my friend. Help? Thanks :)


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  • Typo! Sorry, This:
    ""Her last text to me tonight was "I'm don't talking about it.""
     was supposed to be "I'm done talking about it."  Not don't.


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  • The following quote is what you really need to focus on:

     I made a big mistake in not asking what everyones budget was and I feel really bad about it now. I plan on sending out an apology tomorrow to each of them, apologizing for not asking for their dress budget before hand and that I will be more considerate toward their finances on anything in the future, even though the dresses are all they have to pay for, and shoes if they don't have any, their choice in style as well, just nude in color. This is my bad (Sorry! I don't want to get yelled at on here :b ), and I feel really bad about it, but it's not the problem I'm having.


    (1) You don't control what people spend their money on. Even if she drops 5k on shoes daily, if 200 dollars is out of her range for a BM dress that is her decision. No reason to feel hurt. I spend more money on shoes, because I always spend more on things that separate the ground from me (tires, beds, shoes, etc.)  I'm also picky about the fit of shoes and sometimes that means paying a bit more.

    (2) You recognize you messed up on not asking about the budget. You need to not send a generic text, but talk to each girl individually and ask for her budget.

    (3) Don't talk about wedding gifts with your BM, whatever she chooses to spend on it. 

    (4) You like your BM, so take her at her word that she didn't get it. I get over 100 emails a day, sometimes I miss emails that aren't urgent.  Like my FI emails me links all the time and even though they go to his special folder, I'll skim them and then forget about them. It doesn't mean that I don't love him. I'm just busy and have my own stuff going on. 

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  • How she chooses to spend her money is her business. But I understand how her attitude might make you feel. It's hard to understand why a $200 dress is an inconvenience when shoes over that amount are no problem.  But still you don't get to tell her what to spend her money on.

    I'm slightly confused by your post though. It sounds like she bought the dress so I'm not sure what the problem is. If she is complaining about the cost after the fact I'm not sure what she expects you to do. At this point all you can do is say "I'm so sorry I didn't ask your budget beforehand, of course I should have this is absolutely my mistake. What can we do here to make you more comfortable with the price?" Don't even worry about the e-mail. I don't understand why that's important at all.

    I wouldn't have anymore conversations about it over text messages because that's just a disaster waiting to happen. Maybe you could invite her to lunch or something where you could discuss the matter. However, if she really doesn't want to talk about it anymore don't push her.


  • danistirlingdanistirling member
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    edited April 2014
    (1) You don't control what people spend their money on. Even if she drops 5k on shoes daily, if 200 dollars is out of her range for a BM dress that is her decision. No reason to feel hurt. I spend more money on shoes, because I always spend more on things that separate the ground from me (tires, beds, shoes, etc.)  I'm also picky about the fit of shoes and sometimes that means paying a bit more.


    I pay more for shoes as well, I would rather have something more comfortable and expensive than cheap and cause my feet to have problems. If it were me, I would choose to spend the money on the dress and buy the shoes in a month or two after saving up again.
    She was fine with the price range a while back when I told her how much the dresses I was looking at were. She said "Oh that's not bad." and I figured it wouldn't be an issue because she spends tons of money on other luxury items. Now its a problem and we got into a small fight about it. 
    What I see from my point of view is she's complaining about the dress being expensive but the shoes aren't any issue. A few weeks ago she said she was low on money and asked what the deadline for the dress was, now that she has the money, she's choosing to spend it on something else and then complaining the dress was too much. I guess I feel insulted, whether I should or not. 
  • I agree with the fact she gets to spend her money where she wants to, I have no control over that. I added the email in there because it was a "This is how much everything will cost…" type email and she was shocked that the price was in the $200 range when she went to go get her dress, and she knew it would be a possibility that the dresses would cost that amount if I didn't find anything cheaper/that I liked anywhere else, everyone had plenty of time to save and a heads up of possible prices. Regardless of that, yes she bought the dress, all of the girls have bought their dresses, she complained after the fact, so besides apologize, I'm not sure what else I can say. I haven't replied back to the text because I didn't want to offend her or make things worse, but I want to say something. 

    Sometimes this whole wedding business is so stressful for little reasons lol.

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    My one friend, who out of all the girls, spends tons of her money on LV handbags, Tory Burch shoes, LB shoes and all sorts of expensive things, complained about the cost. This was today, the day she bought her dress, (Tuesday) when Saturday she asked me to go to the mall with her to return some Steve Madden shoes and to buy TWO pairs of Tory Burch sandals that would cost well over $200.
    How is this relevant?
  • I agree with all the PPs that state that how the friend spends her money is her own business (as we always say) BUTTTTT in OPs defense I would be a little annoyed when this friend then asks me to go shopping WITH her and drops hundreds of dollars in front of me.

    OP - can you ask her now what price range is comfortable and maybe pay the difference?
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  • You realize your mistake, and I hope, the fact that if you had asked their budgets in advance this situation never would have happened. Perhaps this friend has trouble managing her money and values new footwear over paying bills on time? You don't know that. It seems like this may be the case because she seems to be prioritizing material things over your friendship. She did buy the dress in the end, but you don't know what she had to go without to come up with that money. The fact that she is uncomfortable spending that amount of money on the dress speaks volumes, and is the exact thing we avoid by asking BM's their dress budget to begin with.

    I do understand how you feel, and in your position I would probably feel the same way if it were one of my close friends flaunting money in front of me and then complaining it's too expensive to be in the wedding. Now the situation is awkward between the two of you, but you both had a hand in it so it's not really a case of who did the more hurtful thing. There really is no way to fix this unless you decide to pay her back for some of or the entire dress purchase.
  • jneen101 said:

     
    My one friend, who out of all the girls, spends tons of her money on LV handbags, Tory Burch shoes, LB shoes and all sorts of expensive things, complained about the cost. This was today, the day she bought her dress, (Tuesday) when Saturday she asked me to go to the mall with her to return some Steve Madden shoes and to buy TWO pairs of Tory Burch sandals that would cost well over $200.
    How is this relevant?
     This is the bridesmaid that is complaining about the price, not some random friend lol.


    Two things I see here: the money issue and the MOH's email.  As for the money, wouldn't you rather drop a couple of hundred bucks on yourself rather than someone's wedding?  I know I would and some of the other PP have answered the same way as me. And no, when I am asked to be in a wedding, I don't put aside extra money.  I keep saving my normal amount and decide either by myself or now, with my H, how much I can spend total as a BM.

    Second, don't have your MOH send mass emails out on your behalf.  This is your wedding, not hers.  You should be the one to tell people xy and z.  And if you think this is a duty your MOH is supposed to do on your behalf, I suggest lurking longer.  I would much rather hear about dress costs, shoes, or jewelry from the bride herself, especially if I don't know the MOH that well or at all.

    Of course I would and I'm all for buying whatever your heart desires, I just felt kind put-off by her saying its a lot of money for her but yet, it really wasn't because she was about to spend the same amount on shoes. Thats the way I look at it. I would put my shoes on hold for a best friends wedding, but thats just me.

    Second, my MOH offered to handle the dresses, were on the same page, she knew exactly what I wanted for my dresses, color, length, the whole thing. I was stressed out with some other things and she offered to help take the stress off me by handling this, which I'm grateful for. I don't expect any single person in my bridal party to help me with anything, luckily I have a great group of girls who want to help and my MOH has met everyone and we have all gone out together multiple times. No one has mentioned they're uncomfortable with talking to my MOH. And I'm not forcing my bridesmaids to help with anything.
    I agree with all the PPs that state that how the friend spends her money is her own business (as we always say) BUTTTTT in OPs defense I would be a little annoyed when this friend then asks me to go shopping WITH her and drops hundreds of dollars in front of me.

    OP - can you ask her now what price range is comfortable and maybe pay the difference?
    All the girls have already bought their dresses. This morning I apologized to each one individually for not asking there budget. The girl who I had an issue with yesterday also received one and an explanation of why I was upset so she could see it from my point of view as well. I can't tell her what to do with her money. I'm currently footing the honeymoon bill which is pretty significant and my parents have us on a tight budget so the most I would be able to contribute is minimal but if thats something she wants then I'll do my best to help her make up the difference. I know where my money will be going though if she chooses that route, and I can't say I agree with it.
  • danistirlingdanistirling member
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    singinchick13 said: You realize your mistake, and I hope, the fact that if you had asked their budgets in advance this situation never would have happened. Perhaps this friend has trouble managing her money and values new footwear over paying bills on time? You don't know that. It seems like this may be the case because she seems to be prioritizing material things over your friendship. She did buy the dress in the end, but you don't know what she had to go without to come up with that money. The fact that she is uncomfortable spending that amount of money on the dress speaks volumes, and is the exact thing we avoid by asking BM's their dress budget to begin with.
    I do understand how you feel, and in your position I would probably feel the same way if it were one of my close friends flaunting money in front of me and then complaining it's too expensive to be in the wedding. Now the situation is awkward between the two of you, but you both had a hand in it so it's not really a case of who did the more hurtful thing. There really is no way to fix this unless you decide to pay her back for some of or the entire dress purchase.

    She's
    very bad at managing her money and she has known for a while now that the dress may end up costing something in the $200 range which she said she was fine with, and I figured since she spends money on all these other things, why would this be any different. She was going to get a Nordstrom CC on Saturday so she could buy her shoes, and I found myself thinking that it was just a horrible idea for her to have a nordstrom CC but that's not my place to say anything. I can't afford to pay for her entire dress, and like I said in my last post, I'll help off-set the cost if she needs me to, but I won't agree with where my $40/$50 will be going, or any amount :/
  • Like others have said it's not your concern how she spends her money.  Your wedding just might not be a priority for her.  It's one day our of her life.  

    As for your MOH sending out the e-mails, she should not be doing this.  Even if she offered, it is your responsibility to provide this information to the bridesmaids.  Just because your bridesmaids haven't told you they are uncomfortable with her handling this doesn't mean they aren't.  I know I'd be very confused as to why the MOH was giving me that information.  I would also wonder why the bride couldn't be bothered to contact me herself. 
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  • jneen101 said:

     
    My one friend, who out of all the girls, spends tons of her money on LV handbags, Tory Burch shoes, LB shoes and all sorts of expensive things, complained about the cost. This was today, the day she bought her dress, (Tuesday) when Saturday she asked me to go to the mall with her to return some Steve Madden shoes and to buy TWO pairs of Tory Burch sandals that would cost well over $200.
    How is this relevant?
     This is the bridesmaid that is complaining about the price, not some random friend lol.



    I just don't see what her purse and shoes have to do with buying a dress for your wedding?
  • I just want to add that I feel you are being extremely judgmental of your friend. I'm not sure I would appreciate that as your friend.

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  • abbyj700 said:
    OP is completely missing the point. My BM's can spend their money wherever they want to - it's none of my business. I don't care what this girl spends her money on - it is HER decision. Not yours. If she considers $200 too much for a BM dress - that is HER decision - NOT YOURS. You're right - you should have asked for budgets for everyone. And those budgets have NOTHING to do with how much money people make, how much they spend on other things - they gave you a budget, stick to it. 

    And I get 100's of e-mails a day. Next time you want to talk to someone who is your friend - call them.
    I'm not missing the point, I understand she can spend her money where she wants to. I never disagreed with this when everyone else said the same thing. No one gave ME a budget, they mentioned what they would be comfortable spending and the majority of them were okay with the $200 range. The other two who weren't really on board with the price, I have talked to this morning and since apologized about not taking their budget into consideration and they don't even care they spent $200. I'm not perfect, I made a mistake, owned up to it and apologized to everyone and everyone has been accepting of that apology and very supportive which I'm very lucky for, except my one friend. 
    I just want to add that I feel you are being extremely judgmental of your friend. I'm not sure I would appreciate that as your friend.
    My friend is the most judgmental person I know. I'm not meaning to be judgmental towards her.

    Quite frankly after the way she responded to my apology, I'm pretty hurt. I apologized TWICE about the dress, the cost and that I was just trying to explain MY point of view. I offered to help pay for some of the dress, she declined and was a straight up b**** about it and literally made me cry. Maybe I'm too sensitive, or whatever but It hurt my feelings with the way she responded to my apology. I did my best to fix the situation.
  • mysticl said:
    Like others have said it's not your concern how she spends her money.  Your wedding just might not be a priority for her.  It's one day our of her life.  

    As for your MOH sending out the e-mails, she should not be doing this.  Even if she offered, it is your responsibility to provide this information to the bridesmaids.  Just because your bridesmaids haven't told you they are uncomfortable with her handling this doesn't mean they aren't.  I know I'd be very confused as to why the MOH was giving me that information.  I would also wonder why the bride couldn't be bothered to contact me herself. 
    I don't expect my wedding to be a priority to anyone besides me and my fiancé and maybe our parents, I hope. I provided the information to her, which she provided to everyone. I have other things going on in my life that are stressing me out, and as my best friend, she offered to help. It took a lot off my plate and I appreciate her for it. I don't really care if its proper etiquette or not, since when do people follow rules? She helped me out as my best friend and I see nothing wrong with that.  
  • You're not allowed to be hurt that your friend doesn't want to drop $200 on a dress she didn't pick out, and doesn't probably like, but does want to drop money on her own shoes. 
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  • danistirlingdanistirling member
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    You're not allowed to be hurt that your friend doesn't want to drop $200 on a dress she didn't pick out, and doesn't probably like, but does want to drop money on her own shoes. 
    I'm not hurt she won't spend $200 on a dress, I'm hurt by how she treated me after I apologized twice about everything. And I let the girls pick there own dresses thank you very much.
  • I'm still confused about the purses and the shoes?
  • The ONLY way to make it up to your friends for not checking with them on their budgets beforehand is to OFFER TO PAY FOR THE DRESSES.  Apologizing and being like "sorry i did this, but it's already done, and i'm totally justifying it in this way" isn't really helpful.

     

    For the two girls that specifically told you that the dress was out of their budgets, you should probably offer to cover at least whatever it takes to get you back under their budgets.  And if it were me, to be fair, I'd cover the same amount of EVERYONE's dress, regardless of their personal budget.  And actually, if i was that thoughtless, i would pay for 100% of everyone's dresses to try to make it up to them.

     

    And if you say "I can't afford to do that" then maybe you should have found a bridal salon that offered less expensive options.  If you can't afford it, it's likely that they can't either.  They're not required to save money for your wedding...but YOU are.  So take this out of your flower budget or whatever and get it done.

     

    I'm not even going to touch the "her personal shopping is totally relevant to her shopping for my wedding" stuff.  it's ridiculous.  Obviously, anyone in the ENTIRE WORLD would rather spend $200 on something that they selected for themselves that they would wear multiple times than some BM dress that they know for a fact they will never wear again (spoiler alert: unless you fully let your girls pick theri own dresses, as in "wear any black knee length dress in the entire world," NO ONE WILL WEAR THAT DRESS AGAIN.  If it looks like a BM dress, that's all it will ever be.  I'm in a wedding next month where the MOH "insisted" on designer dresses so that we could all "wear them again!" and i paid the $350 because i can afford it, but i was totally annoyed the entire time and will be selling it on eBay promptly after the wedding.)

  • Thank you everyone for your advice. She will not let me help pay for her dress so there really isn't much else I can do.
  • abbyj700 said:
    OP is completely missing the point. My BM's can spend their money wherever they want to - it's none of my business. I don't care what this girl spends her money on - it is HER decision. Not yours. If she considers $200 too much for a BM dress - that is HER decision - NOT YOURS. You're right - you should have asked for budgets for everyone. And those budgets have NOTHING to do with how much money people make, how much they spend on other things - they gave you a budget, stick to it. 

    And I get 100's of e-mails a day. Next time you want to talk to someone who is your friend - call them.
    I'm not missing the point, I understand she can spend her money where she wants to. I never disagreed with this when everyone else said the same thing. No one gave ME a budget, they mentioned what they would be comfortable spending and the majority of them were okay with the $200 range. The other two who weren't really on board with the price, I have talked to this morning and since apologized about not taking their budget into consideration and they don't even care they spent $200. I'm not perfect, I made a mistake, owned up to it and apologized to everyone and everyone has been accepting of that apology and very supportive which I'm very lucky for, except my one friend. 
    I just want to add that I feel you are being extremely judgmental of your friend. I'm not sure I would appreciate that as your friend.
    My friend is the most judgmental person I know. I'm not meaning to be judgmental towards her.

    Quite frankly after the way she responded to my apology, I'm pretty hurt. I apologized TWICE about the dress, the cost and that I was just trying to explain MY point of view. I offered to help pay for some of the dress, she declined and was a straight up b**** about it and literally made me cry. Maybe I'm too sensitive, or whatever but It hurt my feelings with the way she responded to my apology. I did my best to fix the situation.
    OP - I just have to tell you - shit like this irks me. If friends of mine ever talked about me like this, I'd wonder why 1) they are my friend and 2) they like me so much that they asked me to be in their wedding but will tell a bunch of strangers that I'm the "most judgmental person you know."

  • Quite frankly after the way she responded to my apology, I'm pretty hurt. I apologized TWICE about the dress, the cost and that I was just trying to explain MY point of view. I offered to help pay for some of the dress, she declined and was a straight up b**** about it and literally made me cry. Maybe I'm too sensitive, or whatever but It hurt my feelings with the way she responded to my apology. I did my best to fix the situation.
    I'm not going to touch on everything else because you've gotten a lot of advice already, but I just wanted to comment on what I bolded. Apologizing to someone and then following it up with trying to justify what you did is not an apology. To truly apologize to someone you need to say "I'm so sorry for what I did. You mean a lot to me and I didn't mean to offend/hurt/disappoint you. I hope you can forgive me". And then you stop talking. Adding explanations negates your apology because you're basically saying why you still think you were right in what you did.
    "I'm sorry for not considering your budget when I chose the dresses but I was mad because I think you should be spending your money on my wedding instead of on yourself" is not an apology. Don't give an explanation, just admit you're wrong. I know it's hard. It took me a VERY long time to figure that one out.
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