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Was I in the wrong?

I feel both bad and liberated at the same time. My mom has been driving me insane with all the things she's demanding me to change about my wedding and her telling everyone that she's paying for the entire wedding when the only thing she has paid for is the dress. I've paid about $15k or so towards the wedding, where as she's paid for a $500 dress. Every time I'd hear her say that, it'd grate on me, irritate me, but I just kept my mouth shut. She had been pestering me about the rehearsal dinner as she wanted to hold it at the country club she's a part of and I told her that I had to be there with her when she booked it so that I have the peace of mind that it is done, since she has not been reliable for anything but being unreliable. She surprised me and agreed and my mom, my grandma and I all went to the country club to meet with the event coordinator. I thought everything was going well until they asked about what I wanted to do for a bar option. My wedding is dry for multiple personal reasons both for myself, my dad's side of the family, my fiance, and his side of the family, especially his sister who had been a victim in a drunk driving accident that had left her in a coma for months. I declined having a bar only to be undermined by my mother who said yes to an open bar at the rehearsal and then told me I should also have a bar at the reception or else it will come off that she would look cheap. I just sat there grinding my teeth. Then she brought up that there is a gap between the ceremony and reception, not a big one, but I had reserved a private showing of a movie at a movie theater that is just down the street from the reception venue. We decided that instead of a cocktail hour, we were going to have a little movie party. What's more, we have scheduled transportation to shuttle the wedding guest to the ceremony, movie theater, and reception as well as the hotel at the end of the night. She doesn't like the idea and had been badgering my about just moving the time of the reception to 30 minutes after the ceremony. I had tried, but my other vendors wouldn't be able to make it in time if we pushed the reception time forward, we'd just have a big empty space that people would get in the way of the vendors setting up. She brought up that I should just get new vendors and cancel my contract with the vendors. The thing that pushed me over the edge was that she said that she wouldn't mind losing the deposits. At that point I couldn't contain my frustration with her and snapped at her telling her of course she doesn't mind losing the deposit because it was my money she'd be losing, not hers, brought up where in the world would we find GOOD vendors who would be available for the time she wanted the reception less than 50 days out from the wedding. I then brought up I was appalled by the fact that she cannot accept my wishes for my wedding about not having a bar of any kind. I feel the part that I probably shouldn't have said is that she's had her fairytale wedding twice, and both ended in disaster and that I don't want that to happen with mine.   I do feel a little bad, but at the same stand point I feel liberated as she has left me alone for the past couple days and it seemed to shut her up. I have apologized up and down to my grandma for having to endure our fight, but she said she understood and that she was actually disappointed that my mom had lied about what all she had paid for. 
I really want to know though, was I in the wrong for snapping at my mom? I feel a little bad, but after all I've put up with, I feel it was deserved. 

Re: Was I in the wrong?

  • hlpopper said:

    I feel both bad and liberated at the same time. My mom has been driving me insane with all the things she's demanding me to change about my wedding and her telling everyone that she's paying for the entire wedding when the only thing she has paid for is the dress. I've paid about $15k or so towards the wedding, where as she's paid for a $500 dress. Every time I'd hear her say that, it'd grate on me, irritate me, but I just kept my mouth shut. She had been pestering me about the rehearsal dinner as she wanted to hold it at the country club she's a part of and I told her that I had to be there with her when she booked it so that I have the peace of mind that it is done, since she has not been reliable for anything but being unreliable. She surprised me and agreed and my mom, my grandma and I all went to the country club to meet with the event coordinator. I thought everything was going well until they asked about what I wanted to do for a bar option. My wedding is dry for multiple personal reasons both for myself, my dad's side of the family, my fiance, and his side of the family, especially his sister who had been a victim in a drunk driving accident that had left her in a coma for months. I declined having a bar only to be undermined by my mother who said yes to an open bar at the rehearsal and then told me I should also have a bar at the reception or else it will come off that she would look cheap. I just sat there grinding my teeth. Then she brought up that there is a gap between the ceremony and reception, not a big one, but I had reserved a private showing of a movie at a movie theater that is just down the street from the reception venue. We decided that instead of a cocktail hour, we were going to have a little movie party. What's more, we have scheduled transportation to shuttle the wedding guest to the ceremony, movie theater, and reception as well as the hotel at the end of the night. She doesn't like the idea and had been badgering my about just moving the time of the reception to 30 minutes after the ceremony. I had tried, but my other vendors wouldn't be able to make it in time if we pushed the reception time forward, we'd just have a big empty space that people would get in the way of the vendors setting up. She brought up that I should just get new vendors and cancel my contract with the vendors. The thing that pushed me over the edge was that she said that she wouldn't mind losing the deposits. At that point I couldn't contain my frustration with her and snapped at her telling her of course she doesn't mind losing the deposit because it was my money she'd be losing, not hers, brought up where in the world would we find GOOD vendors who would be available for the time she wanted the reception less than 50 days out from the wedding. I then brought up I was appalled by the fact that she cannot accept my wishes for my wedding about not having a bar of any kind. I feel the part that I probably shouldn't have said is that she's had her fairytale wedding twice, and both ended in disaster and that I don't want that to happen with mine.   I do feel a little bad, but at the same stand point I feel liberated as she has left me alone for the past couple days and it seemed to shut her up. I have apologized up and down to my grandma for having to endure our fight, but she said she understood and that she was actually disappointed that my mom had lied about what all she had paid for. 

    I really want to know though, was I in the wrong for snapping at my mom? I feel a little bad, but after all I've put up with, I feel it was deserved. 
    Your mother was wrong to undermine you about the bar and wrong to tell people she was paying if she's not.

    Having a gap is rude, and although you're hosting a movie showing, I still think that's disrespectful of your guests' time.

    You say this is a 'small' gap -- if you're showing a movie, it can't be that small.

    As far as snapping at your mother, you were provoked, and I can't say I would have done differently.
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    wtf? Triple post?!
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    I'm gonna go with 'not my circus, not my monkeys.'
  • ETF wtf double post?
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    I'm gonna go with 'not my circus, not my monkeys.'
  • hlpopper said:
    I feel both bad and liberated at the same time. My mom has been driving me insane with all the things she's demanding me to change about my wedding and her telling everyone that she's paying for the entire wedding when the only thing she has paid for is the dress. I've paid about $15k or so towards the wedding, where as she's paid for a $500 dress. 

    Every time I'd hear her say that, it'd grate on me, irritate me, but I just kept my mouth shut. (Nothing else you can do.) She had been pestering me about the rehearsal dinner as she wanted to hold it at the country club she's a part of and I told her that I had to be there with her when she booked it so that I have the peace of mind that it is done, since she has not been reliable for anything but being unreliable. 

    She surprised me and agreed and my mom, my grandma and I all went to the country club to meet with the event coordinator. I thought everything was going well until they asked about what I wanted to do for a bar option. My wedding is dry for multiple personal reasons both for myself, my dad's side of the family, my fiance, and his side of the family, especially his sister who had been a victim in a drunk driving accident that had left her in a coma for months. (As long as you fully host whatever you are offering you are okay.)

    I declined having a bar only to be undermined by my mother who said yes to an open bar at the rehearsal and then told me I should also have a bar at the reception or else it will come off that she would look cheap. (If she is paying she gets to choose to have a bar or not.  The reception is non of her business as long as she is not paying.) I just sat there grinding my teeth. 

    Then she brought up that there is a gap between the ceremony and reception, not a big one, but I had reserved a private showing of a movie at a movie theater that is just down the street from the reception venue. (If the gap is long enough to show a movie it is TOO long.  Period.  I don't blame her for trying to talk you out of this.  It is rude for you guests and I don't want to sit through a movie in nice wedding clothes.  What if I hate the movie?  Are you offering popcorn, candy and Icee's?  I want those when I see a movie.  Anyway, gaps are rude and this one is very rude.)

    We decided that instead of a cocktail hour, we were going to have a little movie party. What's more, we have scheduled transportation to shuttle the wedding guest to the ceremony, movie theater, and reception as well as the hotel at the end of the night. She doesn't like the idea and had been badgering my about just moving the time of the reception to 30 minutes after the ceremony. I had tried, but my other vendors wouldn't be able to make it in time if we pushed the reception time forward, we'd just have a big empty space that people would get in the way of the vendors setting up. (You have two choices, change the ceremony time/venue or change the reception time/venue.  This is poor planning on your part.)

    She brought up that I should just get new vendors and cancel my contract with the vendors. The thing that pushed me over the edge was that she said that she wouldn't mind losing the deposits. At that point I couldn't contain my frustration with her and snapped at her telling her of course she doesn't mind losing the deposit because it was my money she'd be losing, not hers, brought up where in the world would we find GOOD vendors who would be available for the time she wanted the reception less than 50 days out from the wedding. 

    I then brought up I was appalled by the fact that she cannot accept my wishes for my wedding about not having a bar of any kind. I feel the part that I probably shouldn't have said is that she's had her fairytale wedding twice, and both ended in disaster and that I don't want that to happen with mine.  (Her weddings/relationships are none of your business.)

     I do feel a little bad, but at the same stand point I feel liberated as she has left me alone for the past couple days and it seemed to shut her up. I have apologized up and down to my grandma for having to endure our fight, but she said she understood and that she was actually disappointed that my mom had lied about what all she had paid for. 

    I really want to know though, was I in the wrong for snapping at my mom? I feel a little bad, but after all I've put up with, I feel it was deserved. (You are both in the wrong.  You should not be arguing with your Mom about the rehearsal dinner that SHE is hosting.  If she wants alcohol that is her decision.  You are within your rights to ask her to stop pestering you about the bar at the reception since she is not paying.  Again, the gap is rude and you need to get rid of it.)
    First, paragraphs are your friend.  I give you the benefit of the doubt because TK frequently eats them, but still.

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  • I'm one of those weird people that hates going to the movies, but if you know your friends and family would enjoy it I guess it's fine. I would opt out and meet at the reception... But that's not what your question was. Your mom sounds like a drama queen, but you might have been a little harsh. I'd sort it out for peace of mind before the wedding day.
  • It was long overdue for you to stand up for yourself. That said, yes, it was wrong of you to say some of the things you did but I get the feeling you already know that. It seems like your Mom kind of lives in her own reality and steamrolls you with it. It seems like you need to learn how to stand up to her. If she's running around telling people she's paying for your wedding then ask her when she's going to give you the money? Or ask her why she's taking credit for paying when she's not? Or simply ask her to stop. She obviously wants to make herself look good and generous by taking credit for hosting your wedding. Put a stop to it already. Tell her *she* isn't going to look cheap because she's not hosting - you are. Also stop giving in to her demands for your wedding. Do you even want your rehearsal at her country club? If not, look elsewhere. You don't owe it to your Mom to provide her with bragging rights.
  • So during your gap you are having a movie party?  What if people have already seen the movie?  What if people don't want to see that particular movie?  Why not just start your reception/cocktail hour instead of having a silly movie party?  And yeah, if you can show an entire movie then it isn't a small gap.  A small gap is 30 minutes.  A 2.5 hour+ gap is not small, that is actually pretty darn huge.  And as a guest the last thing that I would want to do when I am all dressed up for a wedding is to sit in a popcorn smelling movie theater.

  • My advice isn't helpful, but I'm sharing anyway:  Kudos to you for not snapping earlier. Like WAY earlier. 
  • What exactly do we mean by "movie"? Is this 30 minutes of private screening family footage/photos? (Like one of those musical slideshows?) A film project you and your FI worked on together?
    I agree with PPs that a feature film means your gap is too big, but I guess I also just don't get it. How is this movie remotely relevant to your wedding?
  • By the way, there is no reason you couldn't create a "mocktail" hour with punch and virgin drinks. It sounds to me like you're just hoping to kill time.
    Look, when I go to weddings, I block out the whole day, unless I have to work earlier. I expect to get roped into helping with something last-minute, and I almost never go home before it's over. I think it's rude to mske other plans unless there is a huuuuuge conflict like a graduation or a birthday. But I also realize that many posters on the boards don't feel that way. They may have only blocked out a couple of hours for your wedding, and how late they stay depends in part on how you make them feel. If you went to a party and instead of socializing with your friend like you expected, you were ushered into a theatre and told to be quiet and watch a movie, would you feel like the host was wasting your time?
  • Your Mother seems to have some psychiatric problems.  I think you dealt with her appropriately.
    Expect to get a lot of criticism regarding the gap and your movie idea.  That is a lot of sitting down time.  My legs would be swelling, and I probably wouldn't make your reception.  Why not just have a nice afternoon reception?
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    kitty8403 said:
    By the way, there is no reason you couldn't create a "mocktail" hour with punch and virgin drinks. It sounds to me like you're just hoping to kill time. Look, when I go to weddings, I block out the whole day, unless I have to work earlier. I expect to get roped into helping with something last-minute, and I almost never go home before it's over. I think it's rude to mske other plans unless there is a huuuuuge conflict like a graduation or a birthday. But I also realize that many posters on the boards don't feel that way. They may have only blocked out a couple of hours for your wedding, and how late they stay depends in part on how you make them feel. If you went to a party and instead of socializing with your friend like you expected, you were ushered into a theatre and told to be quiet and watch a movie, would you feel like the host was wasting your time?
    Well, more than that, I'll block the whole day for a wedding so I have time to get ready, be on time (e.g. 20-30 minutes early), and get home or back to the hotel and not be entirely frazzled. I'm not expecting for WEDDING PART ONE and WEDDING PART TWO separated by a few hours to kill. And if you're going to make me kill time, the movie isn't a great idea. It reminds me of when I babysit and my "break" is when the kids are in front of the TV.
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  • this sounds like my mess of a mom too...good luck, you'll be okay!
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