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Fix it or ditch it?

TLDR: keep working on this book or dump the project entirely?    (Skip to the plot)

I dug up an old file for a book I wrote during my junior year of high school.  I used to write a lot, but it seems I have a sort of time limit on this stuff.  I write it, like it for a week, then I hate the absolute shit out of it and want to burn it.  So I kinda hate this book.  Not as much as the others, as I totally want to pretend those never existed, while I do see SOME potential in this when I look at it.  
I did share it with many peers, and they all loved it, which I kinda assumed was because they'd say they loved anything I wrote to be nice.  However I also shared it with an english teacher who was VERY harsh in terms of grading and not afraid at all to tear apart your work and give tons of honest criticism.  The fact that she came up to me and told me she liked it makes me wonder if maybe I'm just being too harsh on myself, maybe this is a road block I have to get over.  

Either way, I'm going to go ahead and consider myself too biased to judge the quality of this- So should I keep working or is it just hopelessly bad?

Plot:
Basically the plot centers around a haunted house, but it's a different take- it's from the point of view of the ghost.  Her name is Sari right now, and I may or may not change that if I decide to continue with this.  She is about 7 (May change the age by a year or two) and died in a house fire.  During her life she was a victim of abuse at the hands of her mother, who was an addict.  The story follows her as she deals with the painful memories, and copes with the idea of her own death.  During that time several families move in and soon move out.  By observing the lives of others, and eventually interacting with those in the home (Sometimes driving them away, sometimes seeking companionship)  she learns and matures- her afterlife basically becomes a second shot at living and growing.  Eventually she learns to let go of her past and be at peace, in the end leaving the house to exist among the stars.

A small sample (Remember I was in high school and don't judge me too hard if it sucks)

The last soft glow of sunlight slipped beneath the horizon, and the air filled with the musical cacophony of a thousand crickets calling out to one another.  Open windows to warm homes created spots of light throughout a calm neighborhood, a manmade galaxy to imitate the stars appearing one by one in the sky.  One home, however, stood apart from the others, as it did not defy darkness with manmade light; it welcomed the dark.

It hung at the farthest reaches of the manmade stars, just barely trapped in a motionless orbit.  Vines climbed along all sides of it, and grew in number as time went.  Soon they would swallow it and the house would be torn from the gravity of the other homes, to sink into the peaceful green depths of the forest.  

The only live inhabitants in the silent home were the spiders.  The spiders danced and wove their dream catcher webs along the corners of the ceiling.  As their legs moved to a precise, instinctual rhythm, their dreams began to manifest in silver threads which lined the ceilings.  They wove tirelessly only to realize in time there was nothing to be caught in their dream catcher webs. 

Sometimes the spiders left their webs.  Others starved and their carcasses would be tossed aside by a faint breeze.  The webs always remained, growing in numbers, lining the home with silver, as if the dreams of a simple arachnid could become ghosts.

The home was empty, certainly, yet it filled its neighbors with unease.  The children would gawk from time to time, dare each other to sprint up to the front door, but none ever made it so close as to touch the splintering wood or turn the frigid bronze knob.  Halfway was as far as anyone would get, before the hair on the back of their necks would stand so high, their heart would race so fast, they would switch to basic animal instinct and flee from a terror they could not see. 

They would hardly hear the laughter and mocking of their friends over their panicked breath.  The taunting would barely sting compared to the sting of their lungs or the ache from the repeated beating of their heart, almost as if it had beat so hard they were now bruised.  

Friends would chock it up to being chicken, parents would call it an overactive imagination.  Yet those who approached the home would know. Despite having no evidence to prove it, despite seeing and hearing nothing, despite having nothing but a feeling of pure terror to draw their conclusion from, they knew with absolute certainty.  Something was staring back.

The echo of a pulse still reverberated in the silence, a seething glare was present without eyes.  Feet paced but never touched ground, never touched anything.  Those who had sensed this knew first that something existed in the nothingness, and second, they knew a name, as if the pounding of a frantic heart functioned as morse code- Sari.

Sari was only seven years old when she died.

She lingered in her old empty house with scorched walls in the kitchen and living room.  But the scorch marks that haunted her most lingered in the broom closet, where Sari would often sit and mourn, because she knew someone ought to mourn for every dead, and if she were forgotten, she’d just have to mourn herself.  

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Re: Fix it or ditch it?

  • I'll be a reader for you if you want - PM me if you're interested.

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  • Okay, I'm gonna be honest here and say that I didn't read for two reasons: a) I've only just woken up and words are hard right now, and b) I saw the word ghost and I'm a big sissy. BUT, even without reading I can say that no story should ever be trashed. They should be loved, and cared for, crafted, moulded, and taken time over.

    You may need to rework it, and if you're feeling that the story the way it's written now isn't working, then you should rework it, but you definitely shouldn't trash it. Remember that no one can tell your story but you! 
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  • I would definitely read that book. I would rewrite some parts but I really like the plot.
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  • Plots good. What I did read I liked. I'm to sleepy still and can't think to hard,, sorry. It's certainly worth pursuing.
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  • From one writer to another: don't give up on this story. What you don't like right now is probably the prose, not the heart of the story. Words can be reworked. This story deserves to be told.

    If you need a reader, I would happily volunteer.
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  • Yes, you would need to rewrite it. Your perspective and voice and understanding of the world have changed and grown since high school. 

    The premise of the plot is interesting, and sound like a good story. 

    There is a lot of unnecessary flowery prose, at the sacrifice of clarity. Things like this: Open windows to warm homes created spots of light throughout a calm neighborhood, a manmade galaxy to imitate the stars appearing one by one in the sky.  A very elaborate and purple prosey way to describe a quiet neighborhood on a summer evening. You can write gracefully, and still create a mood, using about half the words. Clean it up. Don't waste words. The prose and passive description is bogging down the movement of the plot, which should be pulling me to the second page.

    Just for an exercise, rewrite this page as if you were seeing it as a scene from a movie. Maybe the director would start with the neighborhood kids riding their bikes to the front door, daring each other to look in the windows. We'd be receiving all the same information, but as action. Characters speaking and doing, (active) not description. (Passive.)

    (I really believe that becoming a good writer means putting my ego in my pocket, and keeping it there. My feelings don't matter. Judge my writing. Be brutal. That's not judging me.  My words matter. The finished work matters. Don't blow sunshine and rainbows up my butt.)
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    I'd honestly look into novel workshops in your area. My partner did a year-long one here in Boston, and it was immensely helpful.
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  • I'd be interested to read it as well, PM me if you're interested :)
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  • I used to work in book publishing, on the agency side (all genres, but a lot of children's/YA books). This has great commercial potential (comps could be Neil Gaiman, Ransom Riggs). I really, really like the premise, and while I agree with a few others that you would have to tighten the prose a bit and do some reworking, I think the writing itself shows a lot of promise. I don't know that you'd want to get rid of ALL of your "younger" perspective, here. Obviously you'll need to go through with a fine-tooth comb and make sure that on a larger, narrative level the whole thing is "working," but to me this reads like middle grade (or YA, depending on how adult and scary the themes get), so a certain amount of childlike perspective is in order here. Honestly though, the question of YA or adult really comes down to the final product, so I don't think you should be married to it either way--this just reminded me strongly of some of the more literary books for young readers that I have read. This is a commercial take--I don't know if you'd ever want to publish this traditionally or just work on it for your own sake, but just to throw it out there that in my (ex) professional opinion, this could go somewhere in the current market. As a writer, I think this doesn't have to die, either! There are somethings I've written as a teen that I still think about, and while I am not up to the challenge of re-writing them, I am so darn fond of the characters that I could never destroy it. It just sits quietly on my hard drive. :)
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  • edited June 2014
    Thank you everyone for your responses!  @mrsmorales2be@inkdancer @natswild @pinkcow13 I will definitely take you guys up on your offer to read it as I re-work it, I definitely need unbiased opinions to help me improve.  It's definitely going to take me a little while to re-work this a bit before I'm ready to share, but I'll let you know as soon as I'm ready!

    @ohannabelle @KatieinBkln your comments are super helpful (and as someone who adores the absolute crap out of the Sandman comic series, I am EXTREMELY flattered by the Neil Gaiman comparison.  That made me really happy to read.) I definitely appreciate the constructive criticism, and wholeheartedly agree, there is definitely a lot of fluff in there I need to get rid of.  

    It's also given me an idea to take the narration in a new direction- I think my biggest issue, as you have pointed out, and as I've noticed looking through it, is that I get bogged down with so much language because I am such a visual person.  I realize a reader doesn't want to sit through paragraphs describing what an object looks like, but I'm so visual and so focused on those details, I'm really tempted to write those paragraphs and have a hard time shortening it.  I do see some promising bits, and I'm thinking that maybe a novel format isn't a good fit for me- Maybe I should take this story and do a graphic novel instead.  

    I think it would force me to fix a lot of the issues I have with the current story.  I could spend time drawing all of the little details and including a lot of symbolism in the art so that I don't have to bog down the story too much- ex. instead of writing about how rhythmic the spiders moving was, I can create a rhythm within the lines of their legs and their web in a drawing.  Also given that I can't fill a panel with a paragraph, I feel it would force me to strip down my narrative to what is necessary and quit wasting words.  It also makes sense for me, given that if you asked me to name my favorite things I have read, only one or two of them would be an actual book, the rest would be comics and graphic novels.  (Hayao Miyazaki's Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind is my all time favorite)

    Thank you so much for your help, I really appreciate it!
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  • This could be a BITCHIN' graphic novel. With super creepy, beautiful art!
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  • This could be a BITCHIN' graphic novel. With super creepy, beautiful art!
    This project just went from something I wasn't sure I wanted to do to something I'm really excited to start working on.  I think I'll first condense this into a sort of screenplay so it's something I can easily share on here.
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  • This could be a BITCHIN' graphic novel. With super creepy, beautiful art!
    This project just went from something I wasn't sure I wanted to do to something I'm really excited to start working on.  I think I'll first condense this into a sort of screenplay so it's something I can easily share on here.
    I don't have a ton of advice, but just wanted to say that I've reading the encouraging messages you've received. It makes me excited to work on my own writing. :)
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  • I agree with KatieinBkln 100% by the way, that this could be a very very sellable YA novel, so don't give that idea up! (I know doodleysquat about graphic novels, apart from having read 2 of The Walking Dead series.)
    Thanks for being so nice and writerly about critique- some people fall to pieces and get furious. Kind of like brides that really think cash bars are a great idea. I do like everything about your plot. Whatever you do with it, have fun. 
  • I think the graphic novel idea is great, but I also think that writing it out and snipping the excess words would be a good exercise for you. So either way, go for it!
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  • I'm 20 so I may fit your audience. I would love to read your book.
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