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Sister pissiness- did I screw up?

Sorry this is so long...

Tell me if I screwed up here.

When my (twin) sister got married 5 years ago, I was MOH. I was applying to grad schools, was broke, and overwhelmed with my job, studying for the GMAT, and business travel. She had no idea about any of it because she was only really interested in her wedding. I ended up spending ~$1800 on her wedding, a huge amount for me at the time (and still a lot now!). She was laid back about things like dresses and hair but I got killed with multiple bridal showers and her bachelorette. She pushed for a place for her bachelorette that required pre-paying for tickets. Then, as you would expect, most people never paid me back. There were also countless other stupid expenses that I ate to make her happy and be the best MOH I could. I didn't make a big deal out of it to her but her wedding left me with a lot of anger.

Today, we were chatting on email and I mentioned that I found a hair/makeup person for the wedding. I love her work, she seems very nice and reliable, has great reviews, etc. She'll do BM hair for $50, makeup for $40. Very reasonable- and less than what I paid at my sister's wedding. Great. I told her that I was going to send an email to the BMs asking if any of them were interested.

She flips. She starts telling me that it's sooo expensive and that there's no way anyone could pay that. Then she tells me that she paid for everyone's at her wedding. I correct her because, while she might have written him a big check, we paid for our own services. I remember that well because my mom pushed me to get it done when I didn't want to spend the money. She then asks me what I else I remember spending on her wedding and I tell her $1200 (she'll argue with me about a bunch of the expenses so I rounded the number down a lot).

My plan was to subsidize hair and makeup because I can't afford to treat. My thought was that I'd tell everyone that hair was $40, make up $30 and cover the difference. Plus, I'd handle all of the tips, travel charges, etc. (obviously). (Alternative suggestions for how to subsidize would be appreciated- could probably go up to $25/off per person.)

My sister's only expenses related to the wedding are: her dress and shoes and her daughter's outfit (she's a flower girl). FI's niece is also a FG and the moms agreed to find inexpensive matching dresses, aiming for under $25 each.  The BMs were told short-ish black dresses and whatever footwear they want. She told all of the BMs that she's throwing a bachelorette but she no longer thinks she has time so her only other potential expenses are related to wedding and shower gifts- and those are, of course, optional. Basically, I'm trying to keep our wedding as inexpensive as possible for everyone involved.

She goes between phases of being super-excited about my wedding and sending endless ideas for things I should do (that, sadly, I usually can't afford or find the time for) - and complaining about how much effort my wedding will be because she's got a kid. This is her first wedding with a child and she's upset that I'm not providing on-site childcare. She also doesn't like the location because it's not close enough to where she lives (45 minutes away- about halfway between her and me, 15 minutes from both the airport and our parents). Basically, she's being pissy about all things wedding-related. I don't bring up the wedding very often and most of our conversations have been around her projects.

My feelings are hurt because she seems so upset over the options I'm giving her when I'm trying to make things so much better for her than she made them for me.

So I guess my questions are:

1. Should I have not told my sister how much I spent on her wedding?
2. Is the hair/makeup person really that expensive? I only found 1 cheaper person but she got awful reviews...
3. Is subsidizing hair/makeup instead of paying for it bad? Is there a better way of handling it? I don't care if they use it or not.
4. Am I doing something wrong that I'm missing here? I've worked very hard to be as un-bridezilla as possible and make things as inexpensive as possible for people as possible. She's in a better financial position than any of my other BMs so I'm afraid that there's something I've missed that will be tough on them too.
 
Any thoughts would be appreciated!
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Re: Sister pissiness- did I screw up?

  • Sorry this is so long...

    Tell me if I screwed up here.

    When my (twin) sister got married 5 years ago, I was MOH. I was applying to grad schools, was broke, and overwhelmed with my job, studying for the GMAT, and business travel. She had no idea about any of it because she was only really interested in her wedding. I ended up spending ~$1800 on her wedding, a huge amount for me at the time (and still a lot now!). She was laid back about things like dresses and hair but I got killed with multiple bridal showers and her bachelorette. She pushed for a place for her bachelorette that required pre-paying for tickets. Then, as you would expect, most people never paid me back. There were also countless other stupid expenses that I ate to make her happy and be the best MOH I could. I didn't make a big deal out of it to her but her wedding left me with a lot of anger.

    Today, we were chatting on email and I mentioned that I found a hair/makeup person for the wedding. I love her work, she seems very nice and reliable, has great reviews, etc. She'll do BM hair for $50, makeup for $40. Very reasonable- and less than what I paid at my sister's wedding. Great. I told her that I was going to send an email to the BMs asking if any of them were interested.

    She flips. She starts telling me that it's sooo expensive and that there's no way anyone could pay that. Then she tells me that she paid for everyone's at her wedding. I correct her because, while she might have written him a big check, we paid for our own services. I remember that well because my mom pushed me to get it done when I didn't want to spend the money. She then asks me what I else I remember spending on her wedding and I tell her $1200 (she'll argue with me about a bunch of the expenses so I rounded the number down a lot).

    My plan was to subsidize hair and makeup because I can't afford to treat. My thought was that I'd tell everyone that hair was $40, make up $30 and cover the difference. Plus, I'd handle all of the tips, travel charges, etc. (obviously). (Alternative suggestions for how to subsidize would be appreciated- could probably go up to $25/off per person.)

    My sister's only expenses related to the wedding are: her dress and shoes and her daughter's outfit (she's a flower girl). FI's niece is also a FG and the moms agreed to find inexpensive matching dresses, aiming for under $25 each.  The BMs were told short-ish black dresses and whatever footwear they want. She told all of the BMs that she's throwing a bachelorette but she no longer thinks she has time so her only other potential expenses are related to wedding and shower gifts- and those are, of course, optional. Basically, I'm trying to keep our wedding as inexpensive as possible for everyone involved.

    She goes between phases of being super-excited about my wedding and sending endless ideas for things I should do (that, sadly, I usually can't afford or find the time for) - and complaining about how much effort my wedding will be because she's got a kid. This is her first wedding with a child and she's upset that I'm not providing on-site childcare. She also doesn't like the location because it's not close enough to where she lives (45 minutes away- about halfway between her and me, 15 minutes from both the airport and our parents). Basically, she's being pissy about all things wedding-related. I don't bring up the wedding very often and most of our conversations have been around her projects.

    My feelings are hurt because she seems so upset over the options I'm giving her when I'm trying to make things so much better for her than she made them for me.

    So I guess my questions are:

    1. Should I have not told my sister how much I spent on her wedding?
    2. Is the hair/makeup person really that expensive? I only found 1 cheaper person but she got awful reviews...
    3. Is subsidizing hair/makeup instead of paying for it bad? Is there a better way of handling it? I don't care if they use it or not.
    4. Am I doing something wrong that I'm missing here? I've worked very hard to be as un-bridezilla as possible and make things as inexpensive as possible for people as possible. She's in a better financial position than any of my other BMs so I'm afraid that there's something I've missed that will be tough on them too.
     
    Any thoughts would be appreciated!
    1. If my sister asked I would tell her. We have an honest open relationship and if you don't want to know the answer, don't ask the question.
    2. No that's not expensive. As long as you make it clear it is totally optional I see no issue with it.
    3. I would offer to pay for one of the services in full rather than subsidizing both. Or just let them pay the full amount if they want to have them done - since you are not requiring it.
    4. IMHO - No. Your sister is just being a real peach, bless her heart...
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  • 1. Should I have not told my sister how much I spent on her wedding?
        Eh? She asked, so you weren't wrong to tell her.
    2. Is the hair/makeup person really that expensive? I only found 1 cheaper person but she got awful reviews...
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    3. Is subsidizing hair/makeup instead of paying for it bad? Is there a better way of handling it? I don't care if they use it or not. 
         Give the info to your bms on the cost of the service and let them decide if they want to get their hair and/or makeup done. I don't think the cost is unreasonable, but it may not be in everyone's budget. You're not required to contribute to the cost, but if you want to do it, just let them know you're covering the $25 'deposit.'
    4. Am I doing something wrong that I'm missing here? I've worked very hard to be as un-bridezilla as possible and make things as inexpensive as possible for people as possible. She's in a better financial position than any of my other BMs so I'm afraid that there's something I've missed that will be tough on them too.
       You seem to be pretty reasonable. Just reiterate to your sister that the hair/makeup services are optional, she's free to do her own or go to her own stylist. Then take a break from her. Don't expect anything from her, like the bp she promised, so you won't be disappointed. 
     
                       
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    If you aren't requiring them to get their hair/makeup done then you aren't doing anything wrong. If your sister doesn't like the cost, she doesn't have to get it done. I don't know how much I would dwell on this situation. Her wedding happened five years ago. That is all water under the bridge. To tear it open now in a tit-for-tat and comparing your expenses to hers is just not going to end well. I think it is fine that you shared the amount with her because 1. she asked and 2. it sounds like she needs a bit of a reality check for how reasonable you are being- but I wouldn't go past that. Just tell her that she doesn't have to use the hair stylist if she doesn't want to. 
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  • You're totally in the right on every point. Sadly, there seems to be something going on in this sisterly relationship. That's not uncommon in my family. Try not to dwell on it and keep your distance for awhile.
  • kimches said:
    You are 100% right. Your sister is unfortunately being very stingy, pissy, and rude and I'm sorry she's pooping in your soup.
    I like that phrase and I agree with this and what everyone else said. Sorry you sister is not being more helpful! And I really hope that someone can put together a bachelorette if not her cause that would suck if you missed out on that!

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  • Ok. I feel better. Thanks.

    I had no interest in telling her what I spent on her wedding. It's not a quid pro quo situation and I understood that.

    There's some long-standing pissyness from her on another subject (don't buy property with a sibling). I made better decisions than she did and there's some resentment. However, we usually have a great relationship. A mutual friend/BM made a joke early on about how my sister is handling not being the center of attention. I wonder if that plays a role too.
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  • kimches said:

    You are 100% right. Your sister is unfortunately being very stingy, pissy, and rude and I'm sorry she's pooping in your soup.
    I like that phrase and I agree with this and what everyone else said. Sorry you sister is not being more helpful! And I really hope that someone can put together a bachelorette if not her cause that would suck if you missed out on that!

    I love the line too!

    I'm not terribly concerned about a bachlelorette. I know a few of my BMs are excited about one (I'm the last to get married) but it's not a big deal for me.

    I am super-excited about having my first party though - as a twin, I've never had a party that's just for me. She's had a few (wedding and baby) but somehow I never have!
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  • That is SUPER reasonable for hair and makeup! I think you're right here and your sister is acting like an asshat. Also, I don't think you were wrong in telling her what you spent. 
  • This is the second nutty sister story you've told us, right?

    Honestly, she sounds like she's got a lot of issues, and NONE of them are your fault. Based on what you've told us here, you seem to spend a lot of time tiptoeing around her (rounding down costs, trying to compromise the distance to your venue, breaking your back to make sure costs are low even though she wasn't bothered to do so when it was her turn). May I ask why, when it seems that she is unlikely to respond positively to any of it? Or to put it another way: she sounds like she'll be mad no matter what you do, so why not do what YOU want? You can still be considerate; that seems to be your nature, and it's commendable. But maybe when you find yourself thinking of ways to assuage her, or to pre-plan things so they won't bug her, take a step back. She has proven herself to be unreasonable time and time again, so catering to her is never going to work. 

    This sucks, because she's your twin sister and I'm sure that's not how you want your relationship with her to feel. But it's possible that you'll discover that when you stop caring so much about what she has to say, she will sense that there's a change in the air and maybe she'll back down when she realizes you can't be harangued into doing things her way.

    I hope things look up. In the meantime, if I were you I would ignore her rantings, do what you want, and let the chips fall. Nothing you've suggested seems bridezilla-like or unreasonable. Trust your instincts, not hers.
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  • This is the second nutty sister story you've told us, right?

    Honestly, she sounds like she's got a lot of issues, and NONE of them are your fault. Based on what you've told us here, you seem to spend a lot of time tiptoeing around her (rounding down costs, trying to compromise the distance to your venue, breaking your back to make sure costs are low even though she wasn't bothered to do so when it was her turn). May I ask why, when it seems that she is unlikely to respond positively to any of it? Or to put it another way: she sounds like she'll be mad no matter what you do, so why not do what YOU want? You can still be considerate; that seems to be your nature, and it's commendable. But maybe when you find yourself thinking of ways to assuage her, or to pre-plan things so they won't bug her, take a step back. She has proven herself to be unreasonable time and time again, so catering to her is never going to work. 

    This sucks, because she's your twin sister and I'm sure that's not how you want your relationship with her to feel. But it's possible that you'll discover that when you stop caring so much about what she has to say, she will sense that there's a change in the air and maybe she'll back down when she realizes you can't be harangued into doing things her way.

    I hope things look up. In the meantime, if I were you I would ignore her rantings, do what you want, and let the chips fall. Nothing you've suggested seems bridezilla-like or unreasonable. Trust your instincts, not hers.
    This is exactly what FI says.

    My sister and I normally have a good relationship. We have a great time when we're together, etc. It's just when anyone (not just me) asks her for anything that there's a problem. FI thinks she's fun but objects to how she treats me and the rest of the family.

    Thank you all for the feedback! It's so nice to know that my perceptions aren't totally off!
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