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Really down right now

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edited July 2014 in Chit Chat
First- I feel bad feeling this way with some of the stuff going on in other member's lives. But I can't help it. On the surface, I'm depressed because of my job. I've decided that it is time to leave and have started looking for a new job- which is seriously the worst adult chore in the world. I would rather do taxes then fill out all these online applications that require you to retype your resume. I'm apathetic and down and it sucks spending 9 hours of my day in a place that I hate. And I'm so busy right now that I don't have any time to feel this way. If I could afford it, I would quit today, but I can't, especially because of the deeper reason for my mood. 

I'm very upset because I've come to the decision that I can no longer have a relationship with my verbally abusive parents. I have lived in fear of them long enough and I had my last straw argument with them this weekend when they tried to shame and guilt me for 'refusing' to pay for a school loan that they asked me to get, promised they would repay, for the school that they pushed me to go to. I wanted to go to a less expensive school. For the record, I never outright refused to pay. I gave my mom a loan update in email and she started asking all these questions- how long did I go to the school, how much did they pay, how many 'extra' classes did I take. I could see where it was going. When I called her to talk the very first thing she said was, "So you don't think that you should have to pay this back, huh?" Without even giving me a chance to discuss it with her. The conversation ended with them full on yelling at me when I tried to stand up for myself. 

I was just beyond shocked at their behavior and the fact that in the middle of it they started attacking my wedding and tried to rip open all those painful discussions all over again in order to guilt me into paying the school loan. My parents are rich- like drive cars that cost more than the average house rich. I know for a fact that they could write a check for the whole amount of the loan and it wouldn't even put a dent in their bank account. But no- they would rather tear me down psychologically for 'not appreciating all they do' than honor their word. 

I'm so upset at myself for believing them when they said not to worry about the money and to go to the school, and that they wouldn't have any demands for the wedding and all the other promises they made. I have the email drafted. I intend to tell them how upset I am over what they said, that I will pay the loan but not because I feel like I owe them anything- but because the money isn't worth the abuse that comes with it- and that I will not be speaking to them again until they seek help for their abusive ways. I just haven't sent it yet. I'm bracing myself for the fall out. For the further shaming calls and emails about how upset I made my mom by saying those things and the guilt and begging to try and get me to take it back. This is exactly why I didn't cancel the wedding when I had the chance- a decision I still deeply regret. 

This whole thing has been causing me tons of anxiety and depression since the topic came up last week. That + my feelings towards work have made the past week a living hell. I wish I could just go away somewhere where I can forget about all this stuff for a while.
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  • That's a heavy load, I'm really sorry you're going through all this. I had to cut ties with my verbally and emotionally abusive mother for awhile. Eventually she came to realize that she couldn't push me around any more, and our relationship was repaired. I hope the same for you.
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    holy wall of text! Sorry, the Knot ate my paragraphs 

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  • I am so sorry you're going through this. And please, don't downplay your legitimate problems just because others on this board might be going through worse--verbal/emotional abuse IS a tough problem, and one that no one should have to go through. 

    I don't have any advice for you, just internet hugs. If you want to read more from a community of smart people who have a LOT of experience with abuse/cutting ties with family, I highly recommend Captain Awkward. She has the best advice on all the internets for really tough stuff, and the commenters there are almost as helpful as she is.

    Good luck, and be kind to yourself!
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  • Wow, that is a lot. I am dealing with job stuff and that alone is stressful. I can't imagine going through what you are with your parents. That makes me sad. Good for you though for standing up to yourself. Let that email sit a little while befire sending to be sure you say everything you want to say.
  • ((hugs))  I'm so sorry you're going through this.  Just remember you are perfectly validated in your feelings, and not to beat yourself up over feeling how you do.  I wish I had better advice; for now, sending good vibes and love your way.

    And a sloth hug.

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  • I'm sorry about everything you've got going on. That's a heavy burden.

    I vaguely remember you mentioning something a while back about needing a hobby. Job searches are great for that. Sure, they can be boring and painful but the improvement they can have on your life can't be underestimated.

    In terms of your family, I don't have any helpful advice. I've known a few people who have had to disconnect from their families and hear about it on TK a lot. What I've learned is that sometimes there's more strength in walking away than there is in putting up with endless shit.

    I will make one suggestion though: don't send the email. Instead, tell your mom that you respect that the loan is a major issue to her and that you will take it over. Then walk away. An email will just lead to aggression, arguing, etc. Avoid the drama because it will just drag you down.

    Good luck and internet hugs!
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  • (((((hugs))))) for you.

    Your problems are valid.  Just because other people have different or worse problems, doesn't make your problems any less serious for you.
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  • I'm so sorry you're going through all this. Your feelings are totally valid. You deserve to be treated with respect, and your parents are way out of line. I think you're doing the right thing by disconnecting from them. If you haven't sent the email yet, I would suggest waiting a day or two. Try to take your mind off of it for a while, give yourself some time to cool off and process all the emotions. Then read through the email one last time and send it.

    Sending you lots of wine, hugs, and good vibes for a new job soon!
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  • I would not basically agree to pay it in writing by sending them the e-mail. I would talk to them about it instead. It is such a hard situation. I understand your reasoning for agreeing to pay it though. I have also learned to never allow anyone to hold money over my head. It is not worth giving somebody else the power to make your decisions.
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  • I'm so sorry you are going through this. Just know that you will be better off in the end. Emotional abuse is still abuse and it hurts for a long time. You don't need that negativity in your life! (((hugs)))
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  • I'm so sorry you're going trough this...

    Even if it's hard I think you are doing the right choice by disconnecting from them.

    In my opininon you shouldn't send the email, it's only going to get worse the situation.

    I wish I could help you better.

    "Bon courage" for everything, a big hug and I hope for you a new job soon :)

  • I have all the hugs for you. I also have a bit of advice - I know you're worried about the fall out afterwards. Just don't pick up the phone. Don't answer their e-mails. If you're afraid they're going to text you, turn off your cellphone. Again, lots of hugs.
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    I would not basically agree to pay it in writing by sending them the e-mail. I would talk to them about it instead. It is such a hard situation. I understand your reasoning for agreeing to pay it though. I have also learned to never allow anyone to hold money over my head. It is not worth giving somebody else the power to make your decisions.
    I unfortunately can't talk to them about it. Any time I voice anything that is critical of what they do, they yell at me. I can hardly get a word in unless I am agreeing with them. That is why I'm resorting to email, at least then I can say what I want to say without being talked over and ignored. There is so much I want to say to them, about all sorts of things they have done, but I know I need to hold back and keep this focused and short. 

    Thank you all for your thoughts, comments and sloth pictures. 
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  • I'm really sorry you're going through it all right now. I have issues with my parents, FI has issues with his parents, my best friend has issues with her parents. It's easy to look at the few people we know with "perfect" family dynamics and think that we are in the minority but I really think it's the other way around. It sucks and I wish it weren't like that but some things can't be fixed or mended. At least you have your amazing new husband and you guys have your own family to look forward to. And here's to hoping you guys find jobs in Denver to start a new adventure!

                                                                     

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    First - I have discovered that this community is awesome for two key reasons: They will never hesitate to tell you straight up when you're in the wrong, and they will never hesitate to give you internet hugs when you need them. Everyone's got problems, and yes, some are larger than others, but that doesn't invalidate yours just because they aren't "larger" ones. 

    Second - Get yourself into a new job where you can be happy, and even don't mind getting up on Mondays. It will seriously change your whole outlook on life when you are happy at work. 

    Third - your parents legit-shit suck. I'm so so sorry. I wouldn't send the email, but I don't know what I *would* do in your situation. I wish I were more help, but I'll send you hugs and love. 
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    Internet hugs are something we're really good at ^_^

    I'm sorry you're going through this stuff and your feelings are of course legit.  I lost my job suddenly a few years ago and was at a loss when finding a new one.  It isn't fun but I learned that everything happens for a reason and I found a new job and so will you.  My FI was super supportive and I was so grateful.  You have a supportive man who will help you too :)

    FI's mother is BSC and can be verbally abusive.  Please, realize it inst you, but something your parents are projecting.  FI's mother is VERY insecure and narcissistic, and as a result of that she will lash out.  It isn't you, it's them fighting some inner demon you can't see.   

    We are always here to listen.
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  • You are not alone.  Lots of people have toxic parents.  One of the reasons I finally said "Yes!" to DH was that he offered me a home and a life 1100 miles away from my narcissistic mother.
    On her deathbed last October, Mom was still asking me to thank her for putting me through college "all by herself".  This simply wasn't true.  She was married when I was in college, and I was receiving government Social Security death benefits and Dad's Veteran's benefits that more than covered my tuition.  I also had scholarship money.  I graduated in 1974, and she was still angry that I wasn't giving her full credit.
    I calmly told her, "I paid you back."
    "No, you didn't!  You were never grateful."
    "Yes, I did.  I paid you back with two college educated grandchildren.  Isn't that what you wanted?"

    I could never please Mom,  It always had to be about her.  My wedding was about her.  (HER dress, not mine!)  My cancer was even about her.  ("What will I wear to your funeral?)  My doctors were shocked.

    Sometimes you have to make the break to preserve yourself. Have you tried therapy?  It took me years to learn that it wasn't me -  it was Mom.  Best wishes.  You are a good, loving person who is worthy to be cherished.
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    CMGragain said:
    You are not alone.  Lots of people have toxic parents.  One of the reasons I finally said "Yes!" to DH was that he offered me a home and a life 1100 miles away from my narcissistic mother.
    On her deathbed last October, Mom was still asking me to thank her for putting me through college "all by herself".  This simply wasn't true.  She was married when I was in college, and I was receiving government Social Security death benefits and Dad's Veteran's benefits that more than covered my tuition.  I also had scholarship money.  I graduated in 1974, and she was still angry that I wasn't giving her full credit.
    I calmly told her, "I paid you back."
    "No, you didn't!  You were never grateful."
    "Yes, I did.  I paid you back with two college educated grandchildren.  Isn't that what you wanted?"

    I could never please Mom,  It always had to be about her.  My wedding was about her.  (HER dress, not mine!)  My cancer was even about her.  ("What will I wear to your funeral?)  My doctors were shocked.

    Sometimes you have to make the break to preserve yourself. Have you tried therapy?  It took me years to learn that it wasn't me -  it was Mom.  Best wishes.  You are a good, loving person who is worthy to be cherished.
    OMG that is awful! I honestly wouldn't put it past my mom to do the same.  I don't think I can do anything to change her mind on that. And yes, I need therapy. I know I do, I should find myself a councilor right now to call tomorrow. I've been putting it off long enough. 

    My husband has a very good relationship with his parents and I love them a lot. He's in finance and is currently looking for a new job. A lot of positions are in LA, which would bring us back home. My husband told his mom that and without hesitation she said- you could live with us rent free as long as you needed in order to save up a down payment. And I know she would NEVER hold that over our heads. 

    It's just such a night and day difference from them and my parents. Seeing how they interact really helped show me that my relationship with my parents isn't normal or healthy. 
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  • I have recommended this book, Will I Ever Be Good Enough? by Dr. Caryl McBride several times.  It has helped many people.

    http://www.amazon.com/Will-Ever-Good-Enough-Narcissistic/dp/1439129436/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1406078461&sr=1-1&keywords=will+i+ever+be+good+enough


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  • I am so sorry that you are feeling like this. <hugs>

    Also, I know exactly how you feel about job searching. It's a job in itself.

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