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I hate my floors! (vent)

TL:DR = I hate my floors and think the man who did them is incompetent. FI and I are fighting over the floors.

FI and I bought a house and have been in it for just over a week. We are taking care of minor problems, but one thing he wanted to get fixed was the dark water stains on the hardwood floors.

So, FI hired a man to resurface (no sanding) our floors and to replace the water damaged boards. We found him on Angie's List and he had many positive reviews. I am just livid with the way they turned out.

First of all, maybe I'm ignorant about the way things are done when repairing floors. I was under the impression that the damaged board would be removed and then completely replaced with a new board. Apparently, that's not how it was done. They cut into the existing boards, removing only a piece of that board, and then replaced just that part, I suppose to save money on materials. I really liked that the entry had long planks in front of the door. Now there's a very obvious (and hideous) patch there. Plus, he cut the boards in a pattern. I know there's a pattern to laying floors, but it shouldn't look like a grid. It just makes the patch super obvious. I didn't want it to look like I had patched floors! I think I would rather have water stained floors than this! Also, when they used their tool to cut out the boards, they nicked another adjacent board that wasn't being replaced, putting a notch in it that lines up with the end of the board next to it. So, now it really stands out and one of my boards has a short deep groove in the middle of it. We pointed it out to the man before he finished the work, and when we saw it last night, it was still there. He did not fix it.

There is also an area that doesn't have any sheen to it like the rest of the floor, which makes me think he missed it with the satin poly coat. When he left our house, he left all the lights on and only locked the deadbolt and not the knob. We don't have any window coverings, so when we stopped by at 10 PM last night to check out the floors we could see in perfectly. So could anyone else. It's like having an advertisement that says "HEY! This house is vacant! Come on in!". Because the coating was still drying, we couldn't turn off the lights. We managed to turn off most by leaning around walls and stretching, but the bedroom lights had to stay on. They're still on until we can go back tonight. Yay for wasting electricity (which he doesn't have to pay for). I have ZERO trust in this man now. He charged us nearly as much for these small repairs as resurfacing the entire house. I know that hardwoods do not cost THAT much per square foot.

FI sees what I mean, but doesn't think the floors are that bad. He also admits that he knew they were going to cut the boards but didn't think it would be a big deal to me. He is very mad at me and is actually questioning our relationship. He doesn't know if he can deal with my constant negativity. I think the real issue is that he had to convince me to do this. I wasn't sure about it and he told me to trust him and that it would be okay. Now that I don't like the results, I am sure he takes it personally. As far as the criticism, I feel like I have to look critically at this because we paid a lot of money for the service and it needed to be done right. He doesn't know if he can spend the rest of his life with someone that constantly brings him down and makes him feel upset, even though he wants to. This house is just stressing us out as we try to get it repaired. It was the first night we've gone to bed still not speaking. It's quite upsetting, but I don't know how to fix it either. I'd much rather live with horrible floors than without him, but I'm upset that this has turned out so horribly.

I am sharing pictures of the floors before and after. The stain is not an issue. This is before they were stained and finished. They match much more closely now (though he says it will take them 2 months to fully deepen into the matching color). The contrast helps to see it better, I think. I can get other pictures of the finished floors, but the layout is still the same as it was before they were stained and coated.

Front entry. Note the long boards all the way across the entry hallway.

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Front entry now. Note the pattern of short/long boards that are exactly the same length.

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Notch in board where they cut it out of the floor. This has not been repaired.

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Cracked board (old) where it meets the new. I don't think it was cracked before. Not repaired.

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Hallway before.

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Hallway now. This pattern is even more obvious than the one by the front door.

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I don't have a good image of the master before because of their furniture, but here's the after. It's the least bad of the bunch.

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Am I overreacting? I really hate my floors now. I wish I had never done this repair. What I hate even more is the wedge it's placed between myself and FI. I haven't given the man the second half of his fee yet. FI has washed his hands of it and is leaving it to me. We aren't really speaking currently and it breaks my heart.

I'm just emotionally exhausted.

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  • I am so sorry you're dealing with this!! That work is not acceptable. I would certainly be contesting the rest of the fee. Actually, FI is a lot better at that, so he would probably be the one demanding it be done properly or refusing to pay and just hiring someone else to fix it. Honestly, I don't think I would want that contractor doing any more work if they were my floors. I would also try to report him to the BBB. I don't have experience with Angie's List, but can you report him or leave a bad review there?....................................................................................................(no paragraphs, sorry) I would also look closely at the wedge you mention between you and FI. Relationships definitely have ups and downs, but I would really examine how much of a role the floor issue actually plays. Good luck!




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  • Most of my downstairs floor is a horrifying mauve bathroom wall tile from the 80's. The grout is coming apart (I regularly vacuum up big chunks of it), and it is very difficult to clean because the top of the tile is kind of wavy.

    I feel ya on the fucked-up floorness.
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  • That is bad, it looks like they didn't stain the new boards to match the stain on the old.  It might never be perfect, but this looks like they didn't even try.

    I would call the business and ask to speak with the owner/manager and ask that someone else come and repair the floors.

    If they don't, I would ask for a refund and after the refund post the bad review to Angie's List.
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  • beethery said:
    Most of my downstairs floor is a horrifying mauve bathroom wall tile from the 80's. The grout is coming apart (I regularly vacuum up big chunks of it), and it is very difficult to clean because the top of the tile is kind of wavy.

    I feel ya on the fucked-up floorness.
    Oh, I know people probably have worse floors than this. This just feels like I paid to get it fixed and make it better and it's actually worse not better! That grout sounds awful.

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  • lkristenjlkristenj member
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    AprilH81 said:
    That is bad, it looks like they didn't stain the new boards to match the stain on the old.  It might never be perfect, but this looks like they didn't even try.

    I would call the business and ask to speak with the owner/manager and ask that someone else come and repair the floors.

    If they don't, I would ask for a refund and after the refund post the bad review to Angie's List.

    I said in my post not to worry about the stain. This was before they stained it. It still doesn't quite match, but he insists that it will deepen in a couple months and you won't be able to tell. This is raw wood in with the old planks. It is really the way they repaired it that I have issues with. It doesn't look natural at all. It says "this is a patch". I could cover it, but if I wanted to live with covered floors, I would have left the water stains.

    ETA: I know I didn't mention the stain thing in my TL:DR part. I guess I should since I have those photos.

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  • I don't think it will matter very much when the boards are the same color. My hardwood floors, I can hardly even see where the boards end (and some of them are very stripe-y), but that's because they were stained all together in the same color.

    The resurfacing stuff is basically a cleaner and a new coat of poly.  It looks to me like you need them all sanded down completely and restained and poly.

    Home renovations strain a lot of relationships... Buying a house with my ex was our breaking point too. 

    You two need to be on the same team, none of this him siding with the obviously shoddy contractor!

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  • lkristenjlkristenj member
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    Thanks, @alucky23. The sellers actually had the floors refinished (with sanding) recently. It did not fix the stains as they were too deep into the wood. That's why we wanted to do this. The floors were actually in really great shape for their age. We opted for the resurfacing process for this reason. I still think it's super noticeable even with the matching colors. I really miss those long boards in the entry. Maybe it is only a big deal to me, but it IS a big deal to me. I haven't been able to rationalize it to myself yet in a way that makes me not upset about it. In the master, there are going to be two short boards in a row in some places. That's not natural looking for the way floors are laid. I definitely notice the ends of the boards now. But the house is also empty now. I'll try to add new pictures later tonight of the floor with the stain. We couldn't paint until he was done and we only have so much time to make these repairs. Anything further in the way of repairs for the floor is going to affect our timeline. I just really want him to fix it in a way that is acceptable to me. ETA: TK ate my paragraphs... again.

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  • So were the boards stained?  Because that would be my bigger issue.  They stand out now because the colors don't match.  Try googling to confirm that they will darken further before bringing that issue up. 

    I think that part of the problem is that you or FI should have said that the boards in the doorway should have been replaced in their entirety, rather than patched.

    I think that once the colors begin to match and you have your furniture and throw rugs, etc., in place, you will not be noticing the patching so bad.

    As for your FI.  Try to explain that you are not trying to be negative.  Its just that you spent a lot of money to repair a few issues and they didn't come out like you both had hoped they would.  Tell him you are frustrated, not negative, but maybe your frustration is coming out as negativity.  At least I took your post to be more frustrated than you being negative.  It's also possible that both of you are having a bit of buyers remorse after seeing how the floors came out, but don't want to say it to the other person.  So you are both taking it out on each other.

  • Well, personally, I hate it. But it also sounds like there was a miscommunication on how the job would be done. Unless you actually specified "I want these boards in this area replaced so the length is saved", he might have done what any other guy would have done. I know I've seen this kind of patch work before in older homes.. And yea it bothers my eyes when I'm trying to make it match.

    What to do: I think you will have to leave it and tell the man the final product is not what you had expected and are displeased with it. There's likely not much he can offer. Discuss with your FI in a few days about paying to have the floors redone again but this time ripping out those boards and placing new ones.

    Or, consider area rugs. I think a rug would look great in both places to cover the wood. Hopefully you can find one long enough for the front entry.

    (But I would never let my H live this down haha)

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  • The repair itself looks correct. They wouldn't replace the entire length of flooring to repair damage. But it should match! That's where you have a problem! You mentioned no sanding- why? I think you will have issues matching the new boards to the original boards because you don't know exactly what the stain is, how it has aged, etc. I would recommend sanding and refinishing all the floors. Once you do that, the patch work should be all but invisible. 
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  • Honestly, I think you are overreacting.  Cutting the boards is actually how hardwood floors are repaired, and what you ended up with is what I would have expected.  That is especially true if he was told to just fix the part with the water stains and leave the rest of the floor alone.

    With long boards like you have by the door, even if they were staggered a bit more, it still would have been extremely noticeable that it was a patch.  It would be the only part of the entry way where the ends of the boards were visible.  I think the pattern there looks fine.  

    I can understand a bit more with the obvious grid in the hallway, but the water stain looks symmetrical in your picture.  The patch is going to be more symmetrical in that case and extending the patch out would cause a bunch of incredibly short boards in the middle of the floor.  I don't see any ends of the boards from left of middle in the hallway picture, which is why I assume it would cause more short boards towards the middle of the floor if the patch had been extended.  That would be even more noticeable than the small patch by the wall.

    I think the bedroom looks fine.  I can see a bunch of the other board ends in that picture, and the patch looks good when compared to the original floor.

    The nick, crack, and stain, as well as the lights being left on, issues are problems that should be addressed.

    I am sorry that this is causing so much stress between you and your FI.  He seems to be overreacting to the situation as well.  I know home renos can be very stressful, and I hope things get better for you soon.
  • lkristenj said:
    Thanks, @alucky23. The sellers actually had the floors refinished (with sanding) recently. It did not fix the stains as they were too deep into the wood. That's why we wanted to do this. The floors were actually in really great shape for their age. We opted for the resurfacing process for this reason. I still think it's super noticeable even with the matching colors. I really miss those long boards in the entry. Maybe it is only a big deal to me, but it IS a big deal to me. I haven't been able to rationalize it to myself yet in a way that makes me not upset about it. In the master, there are going to be two short boards in a row in some places. That's not natural looking for the way floors are laid. I definitely notice the ends of the boards now. But the house is also empty now. I'll try to add new pictures later tonight of the floor with the stain. We couldn't paint until he was done and we only have so much time to make these repairs. Anything further in the way of repairs for the floor is going to affect our timeline. I just really want him to fix it in a way that is acceptable to me. ETA: TK ate my paragraphs... again.

    Well if those long boards are the biggest deal to you, and the other patches you can live with, why not just get the whole entry replaced with new long boards? 

    I waited until after painting to get my floors done, which ended up meaning I had to move all my stuff into the house before the poly cured... so everything was piled into the one carpeted room for a week.  It was terrible!  Seems like you could possibly get the entry redone afterwards though?  Do you have another way into the house?

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    @OliveOilsMom - We are definitely having feelings of buyer's remorse and have expressed it. The house is great for what we wanted, but the prevous owners just didn't take care of it. And, they did a lot of the updating themselves, and poorly. I have complained a lot about the house, just because of the stupid stuff the previous owners did with it. None of our outlet cover face plates in the kitchen actually cover the holes because they cut them too big in the backsplash. Paint is horrible workmanship and there's actually STILL blue painter's tape embedded into the frame of the back door. A door was installed crooked, so the door frame is pushing out from the wall. Screws in the kitchen drawers weren't countersunk so all the drawer faces wobble. I've pointed out these things because I am, as you say, frustrated with the lack of care taken with our beautiful new home. I try to also say positive things about how much I love the layout and look forward to living there, how the deck is so relaxing, and how much better the kitchen functions than our apartment. But, I don't think he hears that as much.

    I did not speak to the man at all. FI took care of all of it. He wanted me to trust him with this project, so I didn't ask too many questions. I did my best to let go and let him handle it and he felt like I wasn't trusting him if I asked probing questions about the process or his decision. He did all of the communication with the floor guy. He did not explain the process of cutting out the boards to me. I was just under the impression that they would be fully replaced. I gave him my input and thoughts when he asked for it and ultimately let him make the decision, which is what he wanted. I think the real issue is that it backfired and he feels like he betrayed me.

    To clarify, no, the boards aren't stained in the photos. They are raw wood. The photos were taken on Tuesday night. Yes, they have been stained as of now. The work was completed Wednesday night. They are more closely related in color than the raw wood, but still not as dark as the older boards.

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  • The stain is the natural stain for red oak floors. The floor guy said it would be incredibly easy to match for this reason since they maintained the natural tone of the wood.

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  • Woah....did he not try to color match at all?  I mean, some differentiation might have been noticeable, but it's like he didn't even attempt to make it close.  Also, mistakes happen, but if he cracked/put a notch in the wood, then that should have been replaced as well, and on his dime.  Did you have a contract?  I think that with a little time, wear and tear will make it less noticeable, but it needs to at least be in the ballpark of the same coloring as the rest of the floor.  It's a shame the previous owners didn't replace that in the beginning before they sanded and stained the floor again.  Would it be possible for you to sand and stain the entire entry way yourselves?  It sounds a little ridiculous since you just got it done, but that could be a solution.  

    And for the problems between you and FI, you might want to take a step back and really analyze what's happening here.  I think the floors might be just an outlet to express existing emotions. Keep in mind that renovations are a big deal and they can cause a lot of fights, especially because a lot of money is usually involved.  

    So sorry you are dealing with this.  My Dad is an extremely talented carpenter/contractor and it really frustrates me to see such shoddy work.  I grew up spoiled in that aspect and now when I enter a house I can't help but see all of the things that were done incorrectly.  


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    I think that once the stain is on and darkens it will be hardly noticeable. You will always notice the little things in your house that you don't love but no one else really will!

    Our seller refinished our hardwoods before he sold... and did a shitty ass job. At first glance it looks OK... but once we moved in and I would sweep it looks like it wasn't sanded properly (if at all) or SWEPT because there is a lot of crap under the stain including a BLACK PIECE OF HAIR!!! WTF?! (I'm Blonde and H has light Brown hair)
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  • beethery said:
    Most of my downstairs floor is a horrifying mauve bathroom wall tile from the 80's. The grout is coming apart (I regularly vacuum up big chunks of it), and it is very difficult to clean because the top of the tile is kind of wavy.

    I feel ya on the fucked-up floorness.



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    I was going to say it's not all that difficult to take out and replace grout and seal it, it's just tedious, but then I saw that it's your entire downstairs, and that made it a significantly more daunting task.  

    We had this hideous orange red Berber carpet throughout our whole house when I was growing up.  Unfortunately, said hideous carpet was probably the best quality carpet I have ever seen.  We finally got rid of it for something much more updated and appropriate, but it was kind of sad to see something that held up so well go in the trash.  Why couldn't the 60's have had more color fashion sense!? 


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  • lkristenj said:

    @OliveOilsMom - We are definitely having feelings of buyer's remorse and have expressed it. The house is great for what we wanted, but the prevous owners just didn't take care of it. And, they did a lot of the updating themselves, and poorly. I have complained a lot about the house, just because of the stupid stuff the previous owners did with it. None of our outlet cover face plates in the kitchen actually cover the holes because they cut them too big in the backsplash. Paint is horrible workmanship and there's actually STILL blue painter's tape embedded into the frame of the back door. A door was installed crooked, so the door frame is pushing out from the wall. Screws in the kitchen drawers weren't countersunk so all the drawer faces wobble. I've pointed out these things because I am, as you say, frustrated with the lack of care taken with our beautiful new home. I try to also say positive things about how much I love the layout and look forward to living there, how the deck is so relaxing, and how much better the kitchen functions than our apartment. But, I don't think he hears that as much.

    I did not speak to the man at all. FI took care of all of it. He wanted me to trust him with this project, so I didn't ask too many questions. I did my best to let go and let him handle it and he felt like I wasn't trusting him if I asked probing questions about the process or his decision. He did all of the communication with the floor guy. He did not explain the process of cutting out the boards to me. I was just under the impression that they would be fully replaced. I gave him my input and thoughts when he asked for it and ultimately let him make the decision, which is what he wanted. I think the real issue is that it backfired and he feels like he betrayed me.

    To clarify, no, the boards aren't stained in the photos. They are raw wood. The photos were taken on Tuesday night. Yes, they have been stained as of now. The work was completed Wednesday night. They are more closely related in color than the raw wood, but still not as dark as the older boards.

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    Woops.  If the stain isn't on, you'll probably be just fine, especially after it ages.  However, the notch and cracked wood is still unacceptable and I would tell him that it needs to be replaced on his dime.  


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  • @bubblegum1309 - It feels like EVERYTHING in this house looks good at first glance, but then you look at it and go "huh?". Possibly what is causing our feelings of remorse right now. If it was actually as good as it looked to us on our first walk-through, we wouldn't be having this heartache now. I know we weren't buying a new house (1958), but still! If you're going to install new toilets, at least put a new wax ring in and caulk them to the floor!

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  • lkristenj said:
    beethery said:
    Most of my downstairs floor is a horrifying mauve bathroom wall tile from the 80's. The grout is coming apart (I regularly vacuum up big chunks of it), and it is very difficult to clean because the top of the tile is kind of wavy.

    I feel ya on the fucked-up floorness.
    Oh, I know people probably have worse floors than this. This just feels like I paid to get it fixed and make it better and it's actually worse not better! That grout sounds awful.
    lol I'm not trying to one-up, I am just with you on fucked-up floor solidarity. GOOD FLOORS FOR EVERYONE, DAMMIT!!!!
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  • lkristenj Ugh! I feel ya! We just bought almost 2 months ago a 1955 ranch. Our sellers' fixes were so lame!

    It's mostly little things, but he painted all the walls white for us - great now we don't have to prime. But once we started painting we realized how bad he did at cutting in on the trim and there is white paint marks all on the wood trim with some very prominent drip drops! UGH

    The another thing we noticed last night - My step dad was helping me install a new fan in the living room to replace the ugly cheep ass light he replaced an old fan with. He left the wiring the same, so there were 2 switches on the wall. The current light fixture was hooked to the fan switch and then the old light switch wasn't hooked to anything. At the time I didn't care knowing I was putting a fan back in so we'd already have the 2 switches wired to the wall. Well while we were doing the current fan we realized the dimmer switch for the light was dead and we needed to get a new one. I ran to walmart spent $6 and got it so we could finish the project. It just killed me that the seller couldn't even do that and just hooked the light up to the fan switch instead and left the dead one still chilling there.... like what else did he skimp on?!!?!?
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  • I think that once the stain is on and darkens it will be hardly noticeable. You will always notice the little things in your house that you don't love but no one else really will!

    Our seller refinished our hardwoods before he sold... and did a shitty ass job. At first glance it looks OK... but once we moved in and I would sweep it looks like it wasn't sanded properly (if at all) or SWEPT because there is a lot of crap under the stain including a BLACK PIECE OF HAIR!!! WTF?! (I'm Blonde and H has light Brown hair)
    Eww!!  I would need to refinish the floors because I could not deal with that.

    OP, I agree about the patchwork.  I would have preferred to have the entire plank of wood replaced not partially cut out and patched.  But I agree with others that once you get throw rugs and furniture down you won't even notice it.

    I would just tell the guy that you aren't happy with the results and that it displeased you that he left your lights on and didn't lock up properly.  But then again, if I had someone working in my house I don't think I would let them be there alone.

  • Update:

    Since FI told the guy to call and talk to me from now on, I received that call. I did my best to be calm, honest, and straightforward without being "mean" as FI puts it. He understands what I mean about the entry especially and sounds open to redoing it if it makes us (me) happy.

    The owner of the company is meeting us at the house tonight after 6 to talk to us about it himself. He checked over the work his crew did and thought it looked good, but understands if the short boards just aren't working for me, especially in the entry.

    Also, FI sent me his first text of the day (we normally text throughout the day) saying "I need a hug". I know it's killing him as much as it's killing me. But I don't know if either of us know how to find our way over the ridge, if you can understand that.

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  • beethery said:
    lkristenj said:
    beethery said:
    Most of my downstairs floor is a horrifying mauve bathroom wall tile from the 80's. The grout is coming apart (I regularly vacuum up big chunks of it), and it is very difficult to clean because the top of the tile is kind of wavy.

    I feel ya on the fucked-up floorness.
    Oh, I know people probably have worse floors than this. This just feels like I paid to get it fixed and make it better and it's actually worse not better! That grout sounds awful.
    lol I'm not trying to one-up, I am just with you on fucked-up floor solidarity. GOOD FLOORS FOR EVERYONE, DAMMIT!!!!
    Ditto @Beethery The only reason I feel qualified to share my opinion/offer advice in any way is because I have first-hand experience with the joys and horrors of homeownership--floors included!  We replaced our linoleum with tile, and it was all great at first (minus our dog eating every single spacer before the grout dried, but that's another story!), but after a few months, we started having all sorts of issues with it.  It's totally a "GRRRRR" moment!




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  • lkristenj said:

    Update:

    Since FI told the guy to call and talk to me from now on, I received that call. I did my best to be calm, honest, and straightforward without being "mean" as FI puts it. He understands what I mean about the entry especially and sounds open to redoing it if it makes us (me) happy.

    The owner of the company is meeting us at the house tonight after 6 to talk to us about it himself. He checked over the work his crew did and thought it looked good, but understands if the short boards just aren't working for me, especially in the entry.

    Also, FI sent me his first text of the day (we normally text throughout the day) saying "I need a hug". I know it's killing him as much as it's killing me. But I don't know if either of us know how to find our way over the ridge, if you can understand that.

    Through openness and honesty. Sit down, hold hands, and talk through it. Calmly, rationally, without laying blame. Whatever you do, please, please, please, talk it out. If you don't come fully clean, it will just fester. Your relationship is stronger than floors. You can do it!
  • We just bought a "new" house built in 1990 and there are a lot of little things that are annoying me that we are planning on fixing. No over head lights in the bedrooms, mismatched electric sockets and face plates, switches that operate random outlets, beautiful wood trim that is so scratched up we will probably have to replace instead of fixing, the list goes on. I feel your pain.
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    H and I bought a house 2 years ago. We bought it from a contractor that had bought it out of foreclosure to flip it. While in foreclosure the house sat empty in New England (read very cold winters) for 2 years and then the contractor only did the bare minimum required to fix it up for sale and even then it sat for another 2 years because he wanted too much money for it. Thankfully for us, it sat just long enough for him to finally accept a reasonable price. You can tell it was a great house and well loved once upon a time but was very ill cared for for about 5-6 years. And our neighbors will tell anyone that listens that the people who had the house when it was foreclosed on "traumatized the neighborhood". The upside to this is that our neighbors are thrilled with nearly everything we've done to the house and the fact that it is a family home again vs. a flip. The downside is H and I have busted our bottoms and spent a whole lot of money fixing "stupid" and/or "surface level" repairs since we moved. With that experience I will say that home ownership is hard and can put a lot of stress on a relationship!!! Try to be kind to each other, while it may seem important now your relationship should always be more important then the home project du jour. I'd also recommend that you take LOTS of pictures of the house so you can look back and see how far you've progressed when you get discouraged by all that still needs to be done! It really helps H and I with perspective when we are tallying up the next project... "Can you believe it looked that bad originally?" "Remember when the yard was so overgrown we couldn't even see the 8 ft tall fence at the back of the property?" ETA: TK ate my paragraphs
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  • The hall and bedroom look like once the color and finish match, the repair will fit in perfectly. The pattern is usually from trying to use the fewest total boards so long/short/long/short is pretty common.

    How long are the entry boards? It may be very hard to get the length now and it's extremely expensive.

    But if finish is patchy, you'll need to refinish usually.

    As for ugly floors - lime green floor paint over beautiful maple, oak and two walnut types floors.
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