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NWR.... Jobs/ interviews/ news

So, I wrote a bit yesterday about going on interviews. I went on one this morning (I was there from 9:30-1!), and they offered me the job! 

It's a small supply company. They focus on silk and bamboo cloth apparel (ie, silk boxers, silk robes, bamboo/cotton sweat pants). They sell primarily through amazon (where they're a top seller), but they're expanding to a few other things like sears and ebay soonish. The job title would be "art and communication associate." It's a salaried, full time position, with some benefits. Health insurance, 3 weeks paid leave, normal holidays throughout the year, but no 401k. It would be starting at a fixed salary of 45k, with probable growth. The President of the company seemed very interesting in training me to manage the company. The company has been growing, so I wouldn't be replacing anyone... they're adding people. They said I'd basically be writing my own job description. I've been told that's good, but it really kind of freaks me out. I don't know what I'll be doing day to day, or if I'll even be able to figure it all out! 

I'm kind of in shock. It's not AT ALL what I expected to be doing. I graduated from grad school this past May with the intention to teach! And that's all I really have experience in. Teaching, and working at museums. And now... company stuff! I've been telling myself that if I am miserable, I can quit, and get back into teaching later. I hope that's true!

I had another job offer to substitute teach at a private school and be their after school teacher / babysitter everyday. I would have supplemented that with substitute teaching at other schools in the area through a temp agency. I think I'm going to turn that down, since it's hourly pay, with little guarantee. I don't know for sure I'd get subbing jobs everyday. 

But... my one quandary is... I have a job teaching on Saturdays and in summers at a fancy boarding school. I really like working there. If I take this job with this small company, and stay with them, I will still be able to teach on Saturdays this year, but I won't be able to teach during the summer. So the boarding school will for sure replace me during next year, since they'll want consistency in their teachers. I loved teaching there, but it was only part time. It was great pay for the summer... but it was only 1 month of full time work. The likelihood of a teaching job opening up there is really slim. I applied for office work there, and didn't get hired. 

 I don't think I can really afford to say no to this job.If I did the math right, it pays double what I would get from subbing and working after school everyday. I have no idea if I'll like it, or be able to figure it out. I also got a slightly weird vibe from it.... probably because its such a small company. It's a huge office space for just 12 people! It was really quiet. And I was a little taken aback at how much they wanted me. That sounds ridiculous but... the President was saying how great a writer I am right from the start. I went in expecting to sell myself to them... and they were trying to sell TO ME! 

So, yeah. I'm in total shock. But this is great. Full time work. A great starting salary. I should definitely be happier right now, but there's so much newness that I just don't know what to expect! I don't like change! I go in to talk to the President tomorrow at 9:30 to finalize/ formally accept or reject the position. Tonight, I need to call the small private school and tell them I got another job. And I need to cancel the Friday interview I had with the temp agency to be a sub. 

I hope I'm making the right decision. Am I? 

Anyway, just wanted to share/ update with you ladies. Thank you so much for all of your kind words and support! And for those of you looking for work... it happens really quickly! Just keep applying. And look into all avenues, even Craigslist (which is where I found this job. Did I mention that I was originally afraid that it was a murder plot? To capture desperately unemployed people? haha. Thankfully, it is not.) It WILL happen for you. You WILL get a job. 

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  • bethsmilesbethsmiles member
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    Take some time tonight to research the company some more, especially if you are getting some wierd vibes. 

    You don't have to say yes, but if you do you don't have to stay forever and it could potentially give you valuable experience. I know where I did my undergrad really wanted to hire people with experience in their field outside of academia because the majority of students don't want to stay in academia so it's helpful to have professors who only have experience doing what the students what to do.

    If you really want to keep teaching you can apply to work at community colleges. A lot of them need people to teach night or weekend classes and even online classes.

    Also, it's possible that you will find out that you really enjoy working for this company, even if it isn't something you always pictured yourself doing.

    Personally, I would take the chance. If it doesn't work out you still gain/learn something from the experience.


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  • lilacck28lilacck28 member
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    thanks guys. I'm looking at their stuff on amazon.... they have a lot of reviews, and pretty much all of them are great, which makes me feel better. They say they're going to be selling at rocawear (Which I had never heard of, but I guess it's Jay-Z's brand?) and Sears and ebay... so, if that is true, it makes me feel even better. 

     I just hope I can do a good job! And... I hope I figure out what the job will actually be! I think it will be writing up the descriptions and maintaining the content on the websites. Maybe some research. The bossman said that I can focus on whatever I end up liking? It will definitely be a steep learning curve. 

    eta: he also mentioned using my artwork on their clothing (they do hand painted silk robes and chemises/nighties. He said maybe they would start embroidering too). Not sure if I would get paid extra for that, or how I feel about doing that. 
  • I've heard of Rocawear, so they could be legit :)

    I think it sounds like a great opportunity.  You can also try to apply for teaching jobs again in the spring/summer for NEXT fall if this doesn't work out.  OBVIOUSLY, since we both didn't get them this year at all, teaching jobs aren't super easy to find but this extra experience could help you with your teaching too probably. 

    I don't have artwork to put on chemises/nighties, so you're already better than me there!

    My resume/cover letter were sent to someone that hopefully will give me a chance...like you, it's in a totally different field than I'm used to (finance) but I know I'd be awesome at it.  I'm trying not to get my hopes up, but it's hard lol

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  • Congrats on the job offer @lilacck28!

    In my experience, working for a small company can go one of two ways.  Either 1) Your boss is a HUGE dick and your options are to put up & shut up or quit or 2) You have a great work environment and an enormous amount of flexibility.  There's no one there with a stop watch when you come in and/or leave.  It's sort of like a little (professional) family, and everyone cares about and respects each other.

    I've personally experiences both ends of the spectrum, and it IS a huge gamble.  But honestly, I think working for a smaller company (and one that is expanding) can provide you with an enormous amount of freedom and opportunity.

    My only words of caution are:  If for even one second, you get a bad feeling about the people or the work environment, listen to your gut.  The last thing you need is to enter into a hostile work environment.

    Congrats again!
  • lilacck28lilacck28 member
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    It helps so much hearing from you all! 

    @loves2shop4shoes , yes, that's what I'm afraid of. The boss seemed nice, and the employees all seemed pretty happy. I talked to three employees privately (unless the office was bugged) and they were all seemingly content. They said it was a friendly environment with flexibility and they never had any problems. The office DID feel kind of dreary and quiet though. Probably because there was a lot of space for not a lot of people. 

    It's a gamble, but my other option is hobbling together teaching jobs and subbing... And I can always quit, right? Hell, they might let me go after the 3 month probationary period! The boss said he's fired three people in about three years. The IT guy is leaving (he must have quit... I wish I could have talked to him!). They already found a new guy for that though. 

    I'm going in tomorrow morning bright and early to finalize things. Anything I should ask or bring up? 
  • @lilacck28 Everyone else has already said some great stuff! I think the only thing I would ask about is the 401k thing. Is there a potential for a 401k to be offered in the future? If not, you should consider starting up a Roth IRA or some other sort of post-tax retirement savings in the meantime. This really sounds like a fun opportunity! Congratulations!



  • @lapeanut1018 He (the President) said that there is a possibility he'll add a 401k in the future if there is demand for it, but I guess up until now there hasn't been? Roth IRA is a great idea... thank you!
  • Congrats! Like @loves2shop4shoes said, listen to your gut. Also, if something seems too good to be true, it probably is.

    So take a little time to think about it.
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  • I talked to my parents. They both think I should take it. 

    My mom told me to mention that I was glad to hear about their ethical operations, since my mother is a lawyer and compliance officer for a large company. So, theoretically, on the off chance that this company actually practices shenanigans... they won't want to hire me when they hear that. And I wouldn't want to work there. 

    She also said I should get in writing (in the offer letter) the 3 weeks paid vacation and to ask if I would be considered exempt or non exempt. Any other thoughts guys? 
  • To be perfectly honest, I think it's a red flag that the President mentioned that three people had been fired in the past 3 years.  What's going on with that?

    I'd ask what this company does to build up/train/coach its employees.
  • lilacck28lilacck28 member
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    He rambled. He was talking about how wonderful the atmosphere in the company is. That all the employees work together, there isn't competition, it's a team. He was hard core selling the place and all the growth that I could find there (financially). And then it seemed like he got nervous and was like "of course, this isn't a guarantee. I can't guarantee that you will earn another $5000 by January like we discussed. Sometimes I make a mistake and hire someone who is not a good fit. It doesn't happen often. Maybe three times in the past three years."

    Can you clarify what you mean by " buildup/ train" @loves2shop4shoes? He mentioned (as did the other employees) teaching me about all aspects of the business, and he mentioned specifically that he'd love to train me to manage the company, but I don't know if/ don't think there are formal training or outside training seminars? Other than "this is what I do. This is how we do this." Is that what you meant? If so, how do you suggest I phrase that question? 
  • lilacck28 said:
    I talked to my parents. They both think I should take it. 

    My mom told me to mention that I was glad to hear about their ethical operations, since my mother is a lawyer and compliance officer for a large company. So, theoretically, on the off chance that this company actually practices shenanigans... they won't want to hire me when they hear that. And I wouldn't want to work there. 

    She also said I should get in writing (in the offer letter) the 3 weeks paid vacation and to ask if I would be considered exempt or non exempt. Any other thoughts guys? 
    While this is nice, I can tell you that at certain times, my parents would have wanted me to take ANY job that promised me health insurance and a regular paycheck. Did you express your concerns to them?

    I don't know, the way you talk about it just makes me feel like something's wonky. It's either that you're just not a good fit for the place (my gut feeling), or that they are just so green that they don't know how to hire someone. It could be a combination of both.
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  • I think you should take it. The worst that can happen is that you hate it and quit after a few weeks. No harm no foul.


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  • lilacck28lilacck28 member
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    I took the job. We'll see how it goes. It was the best offer I've had. Better than subbing or being unemployed. If it doesn't work out, then it doesn't work out, but in the mean time, it's a paycheck. He (the President) seems to want to groom me to run aspects of the company for him, and that he anticipates my salary increasing quite a bit within the next year to three years. So, maybe he's right and I'll end up really thriving there!

    I just want to say, that I'm generally a fairly.... paranoid? cautious? person. And I often internally underestimate myself and worry I won't be able to do as good of a job as people are expecting from me. I think most people would probably have been over the moon, but it's pretty normal for me to look at every angle and go "hmm. is this going to be an issue? maybe this isn't what it seems." 

    Thank you so much for all of your responses. I thought about each of them carefully. I really appreciate the thought that you put into them, as well as your well wishes.

    So...wish me luck! I'm sure I'll give updates if it's either terrible or amazing. 


  • Good luck!  I'm actually super jealous :).  I would LOVE to have a job like this.  But then this type of work is right up my alley, whereas I realize it is pretty new to you.   I have a BS in Business Administration, have worked in a corporate environment for almost 15 years, and do my own occassional selling on Ebay and Amazon.

    I suspect you will do great!  You sound like a pretty smart cookie.  Here are some of my suggestions to be the most helpful for this company and hopefully build up your self confidence:

    --He said you will be creating your own job description.  So do that..in writing!  Just like you did for us (although in more detail) I would write out what you envision you will be doing in the job.  This will open up a discussion to make sure everyone is on the same page.  I would also take this opportunity to bring back his comment about letting three people go because they weren't the right fit.  Phrase it something like, "I'm very excited for this new opportunity.  I think this will be a great company to work for because of (reason), (reason), (reason).  But I know you said in the interview you have let three people go in the last three years because they weren't the right fit.  If it isn't too private, I'd like to know what the general problems were.  I definitely don't want to inadvertently make the same mistakes."

    --When writing your description, think about ways your position/responsiblities can improve their bottom line.  For example, writing dynamic product descriptions to entice more customers to use their products.

    --Do some research about selling on Ebay and incorporate into your job description...or just into a general conversation...how you can help with that transition.  Perhaps specifically look at how selling on Ebay is the same/different than selling on Amazon.

    --Same advice for Sears.  If they get hooked up with them, it sounds like this might be the first time they will be selling in a retail environment.  That WILL be different than selling online.  You will be an extra impressive employee to have already done your homework on some of the challenges that will face and how you can help make it an opportunity instead of an obstacle. 

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  • thank you @short+sassy ! Those were great tips. (ps-He did say he will expect a written job description around January after I've learned more about the company, so I'll be taking notes during this in between time as I figure it out.)
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