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I messed up. Anyway to fix this at this point?

edited September 2014 in Wedding Etiquette Forum
I think I made a boo boo. My dad is a pastor. I had always planned on him performing my wedding ceremony. When FI and I found the chapel we are getting married at, a requirement was that one of their pastors do the ceremony. They were willing to make an exception as long as one of their pastors talked to my dad and read the ceremony beforehand. So I didn't think that pastor would really be involved in the wedding ceremony at all. But then it turned out that pastor wanted to just say the welcoming prayer, which we were all fine with. He and my dad talked and worked out how they would do all the parts. Everything seemed good. I never really thought of this guy (FI and I met him once for maybe five minutes) as "performing" our ceremony at all. We did have to do marriage counseling with him because it was required by the church (this was done over Skype because I live out of state). And now I realized, three and a half weeks before our wedding, that I didn't send him and his wife and invitation to the wedding. My dad says this is really bad and that as a pastor, although he usually wouldn't go, he would always expect an invitation to a wedding he's performing. I just told FMIL to send him an RD invite (she's sending those out tomorrow), but what should I do about the wedding? Send him an invitation even though the RSVP date is next week? Just email him and ask if him and his wife would like to join us at the reception and if they'd like chicken or beef? Do nothing? Or did I not boo boo at all? This guy isn't really having to plan a ceremony for us or anything. My dad is doing all of the "work." But he will be there for our entire rehearsal and ceremony. ETA: I have no idea why there are no paragraph breaks. I put them in. Also, we paid this guy a required $225 officiant fee. So the counseling wasn't free or anything. Not sure if that makes a difference.

Re: I messed up. Anyway to fix this at this point?

  • I wouldn't invite them to the RD unless you are 100% extending them an invite to the wedding. People should not be invited to pre-wedding parties unless they are invited to the wedding.
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  • I think I made a boo boo. My dad is a pastor. I had always planned on him performing my wedding ceremony. When FI and I found the chapel we are getting married at, a requirement was that one of their pastors do the ceremony. They were willing to make an exception as long as one of their pastors talked to my dad and read the ceremony beforehand. So I didn't think that pastor would really be involved in the wedding ceremony at all. But then it turned out that pastor wanted to just say the welcoming prayer, which we were all fine with. He and my dad talked and worked out how they would do all the parts. Everything seemed good. I never really thought of this guy (FI and I met him once for maybe five minutes) as "performing" our ceremony at all. We did have to do marriage counseling with him because it was required by the church (this was done over Skype because I live out of state). And now I realized, three and a half weeks before our wedding, that I didn't send him and his wife and invitation to the wedding. My dad says this is really bad and that as a pastor, although he usually wouldn't go, he would always expect an invitation to a wedding he's performing. I just told FMIL to send him an RD invite (she's sending those out tomorrow), but what should I do about the wedding? Send him an invitation even though the RSVP date is next week? Just email him and ask if him and his wife would like to join us at the reception and if they'd like chicken or beef? Do nothing? Or did I not boo boo at all? This guy isn't really having to plan a ceremony for us or anything. My dad is doing all of the "work." But he will be there for our entire rehearsal and ceremony. ETA: I have no idea why there are no paragraph breaks. I put them in. Also, we paid this guy a required $225 officiant fee. So the counseling wasn't free or anything. Not sure if that makes a difference.
    I would mail an invitation and follow up with an email.  Just say that there was an oversight and their invitation is now in the mail.  If they RSVP yes, then follow up with the meal choice question.
  • I think I made a boo boo. My dad is a pastor. I had always planned on him performing my wedding ceremony. When FI and I found the chapel we are getting married at, a requirement was that one of their pastors do the ceremony. They were willing to make an exception as long as one of their pastors talked to my dad and read the ceremony beforehand. So I didn't think that pastor would really be involved in the wedding ceremony at all. But then it turned out that pastor wanted to just say the welcoming prayer, which we were all fine with. He and my dad talked and worked out how they would do all the parts. Everything seemed good. I never really thought of this guy (FI and I met him once for maybe five minutes) as "performing" our ceremony at all. We did have to do marriage counseling with him because it was required by the church (this was done over Skype because I live out of state). And now I realized, three and a half weeks before our wedding, that I didn't send him and his wife and invitation to the wedding. My dad says this is really bad and that as a pastor, although he usually wouldn't go, he would always expect an invitation to a wedding he's performing. I just told FMIL to send him an RD invite (she's sending those out tomorrow), but what should I do about the wedding? Send him an invitation even though the RSVP date is next week? Just email him and ask if him and his wife would like to join us at the reception and if they'd like chicken or beef? Do nothing? Or did I not boo boo at all? This guy isn't really having to plan a ceremony for us or anything. My dad is doing all of the "work." But he will be there for our entire rehearsal and ceremony. ETA: I have no idea why there are no paragraph breaks. I put them in. Also, we paid this guy a required $225 officiant fee. So the counseling wasn't free or anything. Not sure if that makes a difference.
    I would mail an invitation and follow up with an email.  Just say that there was an oversight and their invitation is now in the mail.  If they RSVP yes, then follow up with the meal choice question.
    The meal question is on the RSVP card so if they RSVP yes they'd fill that part out. Should I acknowledge that the RSVP date is next week and tell them if they need more time it's ok since they're getting the invitation late?
  • I wouldn't.  They'll see the RSVP date on the invite and will respond when they can.  I wouldn't be calling them for a follow-up the day after the RSVP deadline, though.  Chances are, they may choose to just reply to your email with an RSVP. 
  • Can I just pretend I sent an invitation and then contact him when I don't get an RSVP and when he says he didn't get one blame it on the post office and ask if he'd like chicken or beef?

    Nevermind. Forget I said that. I'm a terrible human. 
  • You're not a terrible human.  You're a bride, and things slip.  You're doing your best to remedy the situation.  Also, this may be my Catholic guilt talking, but I would never suggest lying to a pastor ;)

    Chances are that he & his wife won't attend the reception, but it's still nice to have your bases covered.
  • Can I just pretend I sent an invitation and then contact him when I don't get an RSVP and when he says he didn't get one blame it on the post office and ask if he'd like chicken or beef?

    Nevermind. Forget I said that. I'm a terrible human. 
    You're not a terrible human being. I would probably want to do the same thing!

  • What if I sent an invitation with just the reception card, no rsvp card, and then asked him in a few weeks if he thinks him and his wife would like to join us at the reception?
  • Between this and the gift grabby horrible surprise shower FMIL is throwing FI this weekend with all our non wedding guests, I give up on all of my dreams of following perfect etiquette and being a world class hostess.

    Headdesk. I tried, Etiquette Gods. I tried. 
  • What if I sent an invitation with just the reception card, no rsvp card, and then asked him in a few weeks if he thinks him and his wife would like to join us at the reception?
    Just send them the whole enchilada.  If they get the invite without any RSVP stuff, they'll probably wonder.  Put the invite in the mail today and email them today.  They'll know the invite is en route.  They can either RSVP in their email reply or put the RSVP in the mail.  How soon do you need numbers to the caterer?

    Between this and the gift grabby horrible surprise shower FMIL is throwing FI this weekend with all our non wedding guests, I give up on all of my dreams of following perfect etiquette and being a world class hostess.

    Headdesk. I tried, Etiquette Gods. I tried. 
    You are DOOOOOOOOMED.  Jk.  You're doing your best.  FMIL is going rogue.  Honestly, if I were in your shoes, I would have probably not have thought to invite the pastor, either. 
  • I'd just go ahead and invite the pastor and his SO (full invitation with RSVP and all inserts).  If he questions why he got it so late, tell him you just realized that you forgot to send him one and want to rectify your error.  (Confession is good for the soul whatever your religion is. :-))  He and his SO may not come to the reception anyway, but you'll be ready for them in case they do.
  • Ok. Inhale. Exhale. Send invite. With all cards. Email pastor and apologize for oversight and say it's on the way. Try not to cry everytime I see another thing disappear from our registry probably bought my some poor soul not invited to the wedding but lured to this evil shower by FMIL's cutesy poems. 

    I can do this. 
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    Honestly, if anyone offered to host a shower for me and invited people who weren't on the wedding invite list (against my wishes), I would politely decline the shower and advise them that I wouldn't be attending.
  • edited September 2014
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    Honestly, if anyone offered to host a shower for me and invited people who weren't on the wedding invite list (against my wishes), I would politely decline the shower and advise them that I wouldn't be attending.
    Ohhhhh I did. See this thread:http://forums.theknot.com/discussion/1037839/do-i-even-touch-this-etiquette-catastrophe#latest

    ETA: I'm not attending. 
  • @thelastdreamer‌, I totally forgot that was you! Yowza! Glad to hear you're not going.
  • @thelastdreamer‌, I totally forgot that was you! Yowza! Glad to hear you're not going.
    The one time I'm grateful to live 900+ miles away. 
  • If it makes you feel better I did not invite my officiant to my reception.   He was nothing more than a vendor to me.  A very well paid vendor at that.  We did invite him to the RD though (open house).   He stayed for a few cocktails and left.   I do not feel bad at all.


    That said, had I gotten married in a house of worship, especially one that either of us currently or in the past attended or had a connection via our families then I would have invited them.






    What differentiates an average host and a great host is anticipating unexpressed needs and wants of their guests.  Just because the want/need is not expressed, doesn't mean it wouldn't be appreciated. 
  • OP: I just want to say props to you for standing strong and refusing to attend that shower. For all the proverbial hills in the world that may or may not be worth dying on in the interest of preserving relationships with the in-laws, I think it's really admirable that you chose to stand on the side of what is right. Whatever the social climate of the times may be, it's never one that renders the concept of "do unto others as you would have them do unto you" inappropriate or inapplicable.
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