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MOB Guest List Vent

I apologize for this vent/rant, but if I don't get this out of my system my head might explode, and FI is trying to stay as much out of it as possible.

When we put together our guest list, we did the normal thing of "ask your parents who they would ideally like to invite".  My parents mandated that everything had to be equal in our family, so if I wanted to invite my one Great Uncle on one side that I have an actual relationship with, I had to invite all the other great uncles and aunts on both sides.  They're not paying for anything, but they made me feel so guilty about it I caved, and cut some of my friends  to make room for these extra people.  They also guilted me about not wanting to invite my cousins (16 of them, all under 12 years old...) until I caved on that too.  So, more cuts to the friends list...whatever, I'm over it.

My mom then asked if she could ask her mom (so my grandma) if there was anyone she wanted to invite.  I put my foot down and said no, because if the rest of the list had to be done in fairness, that meant we'd have to extend that invitation to my other grandparents as well, and they have a TON of friends.  I wasn't willing to cut more friends so that my grandparents could have people I didn't even know existed come hang out.  She said that was fair and she understood...except she turned around and asked her anyway.  Grandma came back with names that were already forced onto the list, but had one extra one.  A woman I had never heard of and that my mom barely knows anything about.  I said she'd go on the list temporarily, but if we had to make more cuts she would be the first one to go.  She said okay.  We had more cuts, extra lady (I'll start calling her Jill) was taken off, mom said okay.  I thought it was done.

Until this weekend.  Grandma calls mom and asks if Jill can bring a guest.  Ignoring the fact for a moment that Jill is not invited, it's not that she is married or seeing anyone.  She just "doesn't like to go to weddings alone".  So, for that I am irritated at my grandma.  When I point out to my mom that she okayed dropping Jill, she gets upset with me that now "I've put her in the tough spot of having to explain it to grandma that Jill can't come".  Somehow this is my fault, even though she wasn't suppose to ask grandma for guests anyway.

Mom calls grandma yesterday about it, and grandma is insisting that the only reason this came up is because Jill got a save the date from us.  My mom is convinced we "accidentally" sent her one, and that we should honor it.  Problem: we don't have an address for this lady.  We don't even have a first name for her, just a last name.  There's no way we even accidentally sent her something.  So this means either mom is lying to get out of the situation and trying to put it back on me, mom sent her a save the date behind my back, grandma is lying, or grandma gave her her copy of the save the date.  None of these 4 options make me very happy.

This afternoon I'll be on the phone with both of them to get this sorted out once and for all, but the whole principle of it frustrates me to no end.

And now I'm done.  I feel better now.

Re: MOB Guest List Vent

  • So your friends don't get to come to the wedding, but people who are neither the bride nor the groom get their own damn guest lists?  Strap on a spine, ffs.
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  • WzzWzz member
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    i agree with growing a spine. if you and your FI are paying for poeple, why aren't you more willing to just pay for the people who YOU want to be there? makes no sense to give all these guests their own guest list and then you're surrounded by people who you don't care about.
  • That's the thing, these guests don't get their own guest lists.  I never intended that, and I'm sure as hell not paying for it.  Mom went behind my back, and that's why I'm PO'd.  This woman is not coming, and mom can suck it if she's going to make a stink about it.  I know exactly how this is all going to end (and trust me it's ending tonight), but the sheer anger I was feeling over the situation even reaching this point just needed to be let out somewhere.
  • WzzWzz member
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    edited March 2012
    in the end, it's your invitation to put a stamp on and send out.

    "They also guilted me about not wanting to invite my cousins (16 of them, all under 12 years old...) until I caved on that too.  So, more cuts to the friends list...whatever, I'm over it."

    you did say you made cuts to the list of friend you were inviting, so not sure how you are resolving that. good luck.
  • Your mom, dogs, your MOM is the guest who gets her own guest list while you don't even get much of your own.
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  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_mob-guest-list-vent?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:47Discussion:193a5735-8206-49c9-bf45-bf91b4a65424Post:48db4116-7e5f-4395-8dac-222bbbd6959d">Re: MOB Guest List Vent</a>:
    [QUOTE]in the end, it's your invitation to put a stamp on and send out. "They also guilted me about not wanting to invite my cousins (16 of them, all under 12 years old...) until I caved on that too .  So, more cuts to the friends list...whatever, I'm over it." you did say you made cuts to the list of friend you were inviting, so not sure how you are resolving that. good luck.
    Posted by Wzz[/QUOTE]

    That one is stuck.  It's beyond the point of cutting people, it's the idea that in her head somehow it was okay to tell me to cut friends to invite family and that everything had to be done in fairness, but now that it affects her that goes out the window.  I've gotten over the fact that I had to cut some of my friends, but the hypocrisy is what sucks.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_mob-guest-list-vent?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:47Discussion:193a5735-8206-49c9-bf45-bf91b4a65424Post:50f8a092-e7dd-4646-9420-c01bf5760cd3">Re: MOB Guest List Vent</a>:
    [QUOTE]Your mom, dogs, your MOM is the guest who gets her own guest list while you don't even get much of your own.
    Posted by ReturnOfKuus[/QUOTE]

    Yeah that was my bad to begin with.  It made sense to ask her "what family members do you think we need to invite?", but I didn't think she'd start expanding that.  Perhaps a lack of clarity on my part for the initial conversation.
  • And what does she say when you point that out?  What does she say when you tell her too damn bad, you're cutting her list?
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  • dogsandfrogsdogsandfrogs member
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    edited March 2012
    That's what pisses me off!  She says "okay I understand" but goes behind my back anyway!  Short of saying "cut this crap out or I'm not letting grandma come at all" I don't have a way to reign either of them in.

    Eloping is starting to sound awesome.
  • WzzWzz member
    2500 Comments 250 Love Its Second Anniversary Name Dropper
    edited March 2012
    i would be spiteful and tell them that anyone that mom previously added is now no longer invited, STD or not. i had to tell mom to stop inviting people to my shower because they were not being invited to my wedding, as this was her way of getting me to add her weirdo friends. i told her that she was going to be embarassed, not me, if these people don't get invited.

    so just stand your ground. since you caved already more than once, your mom might think there's a chance you'll cave again. just let her know the discussion of extra guests is now closed and she is going to be the one who is embarassed when Jill plus 1 won't have a seat at the reception.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_mob-guest-list-vent?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:47Discussion:193a5735-8206-49c9-bf45-bf91b4a65424Post:0dec1dcd-5f25-43e0-838e-db6a55075c7d">Re: MOB Guest List Vent</a>:
    [QUOTE]i would be spiteful and tell them that anyone that mom previously added is now no longer invited, STD or not.
    Posted by Wzz[/QUOTE]


    I'd do this, too.  And, you know, asking your mom who she thinks should be invited is just asking for an opinion.  Why do you feel like her opinions are mandates from the heavens?  Why do you treat them as such?
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  • The evil part of me likes the spiteful approach.  Really likes it.

    As far as I'm concerned, the discussion part of the problem is over.  I said it this weekend, and I'll say it again as many times as I have to, but this woman is not being invited.  If it gets ugly, I'll get all spiteful and pull the aunts they guilted me into inviting.  I'll feel a little bad, but if it comes down to fight fire with fire, I will start a frickin blaze.
  • In Response to <a href="http://forums.theknot.com/Sites/theknot/Pages/Main.aspx/special-topic-wedding-boards_wedding-woes_mob-guest-list-vent?plckFindPostKey=Cat:Special%20Topic%20Wedding%20BoardsForum:47Discussion:193a5735-8206-49c9-bf45-bf91b4a65424Post:fa0ec4ea-eca1-411c-9fc3-bfd94fc6929d">Re: MOB Guest List Vent</a>:
    [QUOTE]In Response to Re: MOB Guest List Vent : I'd do this, too.  And, you know, asking your mom who she thinks should be invited is just asking for an opinion.  Why do you feel like her opinions are mandates from the heavens?  Why do you treat them as such?
    Posted by ReturnOfKuus[/QUOTE]

    They're not mandates, and most other things with the wedding I've fought her on and won, because it's not her wedding and she's not paying for it.  The guest list thing she turned personal, and I'm one of those people who's generally overly nice and too concerned with everyone else's feelings (probably my most annoying character flaw).  She managed to make me feel guilty, so that's why I caved.  I'm not saying it was good, right, or anything else positive.
  • You're not getting what I'm saying here.  Why are you fighting her at all on a party that isn't hers and she isn't paying for?  Why aren't you just saying "I'll take it under advisement" or something like that and then doing whatever the hell you want with YOUR wedding and YOUR money?
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  • Maybe I'm not clear with what I'm saying to her.  I am saying "thanks for the opinion, we've got it from here".  I don't openly ask for her input on things, she just starts off with "oh hey I think you should do this", and when I try to say "thanks, but we have it under control" she starts trying to extol all of the fabulous reasons why her idea is better than whatever it is we came up with.  The fight starts when I tell her that what we choose to do is none of her concern.

    The only time she was directly asked a question was the family invitation issue, which we extended to both of our sets of parents because we're too nice for our own good.  Lesson learned, and my sister is taking notes...
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