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Need some sense talked into me (XP to Getting in Shape)

aquietseasonaquietseason member
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edited May 2014 in Wedding Woes
Hi ladies, First apologies if I used the cross posting incorrectly - not sure if this is a fitness problem as much as a FI problem. Second, apologies for the essay :)

I just got into a huge fight with my FI about fitness, and not really sure how to resolve it. 

For some background : I'm 5'8, about 190lbs and "top heavy" for lack of a better word - I wouldn't say I'm obese or really overweight, but I definitely have a gut to lose and could tone up my arms/thighs. I've probably gained about 20-30lbs over the last three years after I transitioned from a retail job to an office job due to the lack of movement. My FI used to be very overweight and lost it all in high school, and his whole family has always had significant weight problems (his mom had that lap band surgery and gained most of the weight back recently) so I feel like he has a particular mindset/trigger about fitness/weight that I don't. He's at the gym for at least an hour 4-5 times a week. He's always been kinda mildly naggy about fitness with me, but we always laughed it off as a personality difference, not a ~ relationship issue ~ 

So with this all being said -- recently (not specifically wedding related) he's started to get on my case about going to the gym, fowarding me articles about fitness and health, etc. So I said fine, I'll go join Planet Fitness and come with you when you go to the gym. Mind you I haven't been to a gym in...years. 

So I go, and he finds me on the treadmill, and he's like no no that's not good enough, that's not effective, you need to do weight lifting because cardio doesn't do enough, etc. I felt a bit embarassed, but I say fine, next time you can show me how to use the machines and I'll lift some weights.

It was a damn disaster. I can barely lift any weights at all, my form is all wrong, and he kept on pushing me and correcting me (which I know he meant well, but still) and was just overall acting like a drill master about it. I'm clearly like the most slovenly/fat person in the gym surrounded by all these skinny ladies and muscleheads, and frankly I was mortified. We tried this like 3 different times and it was just worse and worse. So I got frustrated, he got frustrated, and of course I didn't want to go back again. 

So now like every evening this week when we're at home, he's nagging me to do sit ups, do exercises at home, etc. So I blew up at him a little bit about him always being nagging and negative, and he really freaked out at me, how I'm lazy, I have a bad attitude, he gives up on me, etc. And now we're stuck. 

On one hand, I understand that I get a bit prickly/touchy, and I was embarassed to be at the gym, and he was genuinely trying to help me, and genuinely wants me to be fit and healthy, this isn't a wanting a hot bride kind of thing. He has a lot of knowledge, but knowledge of stuff that works for him, not for an absolute novice. And when I try to explain to him how I feel and how he makes me feel when he criticizes me, he tells me that "it's easier for you to make me into the bad guy than to just do what's right" and "you always throw my efforts back into my face" 

So...I admit, we're both a little bit wrong. And I don't know why this issue hits so deep, when usually we're very good about "fighting fair" and compromising/fixing our problems when they happen. But I really don't know what to do. I absolutely dread going to the gym now. But I know I can't just dig my heels in and do nothing. And now honestly, the doubt is starting to creep into my head like...if I don't lose weight, is he going to leave me? Is this at some point just going to be too incompatible? I just need someone outside of the situation to talk some sense into me, because I feel very...stuck in my own head about this.

(edited because paragraphs are your friend :) )

Re: Need some sense talked into me (XP to Getting in Shape)

  • His reaction is deeply disturbing and I don't think much of it has to do with your health or physique, but him wrangling for control of you, mind and body, soul will be last.

    He found his opportunity to do it, a new vulnerability point where he's better than you, in his estimation.

    Does he really expect Jillian Fucking Michaels the first time you set foot in a gym?
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  • delujm0delujm0 member
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    If YOU (and i mean YOU and not your FI) really want to start a fitness regimen, get a few sessions with a personal trainer. They know how to cater a routine to a beginner and are an impartial third party to your relationship. I could never work out with FI. We both work out probably 5-8 hours a week but not together (aside from the occassional weekend bike ride or hike). I like yoga and pilates, he likes to lift heavy weights, and we both like to run and bike, but his pace is so much faster than mine that it doesn't work really well when we try to do that together. You should not feel like you need to do this for him, or because he is going to leave you if you don't. If you feel that way, you should see a therapist, either separately or with your FI. But if fitness is the only thing you butt heads over, you just need to do it separately. FI and i typically butt heads over the clenliness of our house (i like it clean and reasonably organized, he likes it clean enough that you can eat food off of the floors at all times, without clutter of any kind). My level of cleaning wasn't high enough to meet his standards. so i told him he can either do 100% of the cleaning (we had a 50/50 split) or we can hire a professional. we hired a professional. Problem solved.
  • I think IF you decide to do something, it should be on your terms:  you choose where, when, how, etc.  Jeebus, you were on the treadmill and that still wasn't good enough?  And when he told you to lift weights instead and you did, that wasn't good enough either, because he didn't like your form?

    Yeah, this is about way more than the gym.  And "you always," "you never" ("you always throw my efforts back into my face") is not constructive.  If you want to save the relationship, I'd start with counseling, both so he can learn how to fight fair, and so you two can get to the root of his weight/control issues. 

    Maybe this is just a hot button issue for him and he needs to learn to handle it better, but personally, I'd be concerned that this is just the tip of the iceberg.  If you get pregnant, is he going to micromanage what you eat and how much weight you gain?  If you have kids, is he going to badger them every time they don't do something his way?  My experience with people like this is that it usually isn't confined to a single issue.
  • First, sorry for the lack of paragraphs! Will try to edit.

    I *do* want to get healthier - not in an immediate way, not in a way that I'm passively agressively talking about it and refusing to do anything, but I do want to get into shape. I welcomed his advice when he first starting emailing me the articles, even though I didn't ask for it. I regret ever saying that I'd go to the gym with him, though.

    Also, he's really never said anything that wasn't health related. He genuinely thinks that what he's saying/doing is for my benefit because I'll be healthier and live longer and be happier. He's never once called me fat or overweight or anything, or said anything negative about my appearance, or ever specifically told me to lose weight versus getting fit/in shape. I just went and bought some new dresses for his alma mater's gala, and he was gushing about how good they looked. 

    We've known each other for 10 years, dated for 8, been engaged and living together for a year, and this is an issue as of March, basically. So it's not like...a long standing issue or anything, it's really all quite new. As I said in the first post we've always been good about "fighting fair" and talking things out, this is really the first issue that he's hit below the belt as far as I'm concerned. 

    I would absolutely say that this is a particular issue that given his family history he's very sensitive on. And we've always just...not approached it. I've been supportive but mostly disinterested in his gym going, and he's never other than teasingly given me shit for not being active (i.e. he'd call me a couch potato when I call him a gym bunny, that kind of thing, nothing serious or personal) until this started.

    Even prior to this we agreed on doing some sort of PMC (most of the officiants I've been looking into offer it) just because I think it's a good thing to do for anyone, so it's definitely a topic I intend to bring up if we can't resolve it by then.

    I do think that I need to start doing something entirely different from what he's doing - go see a personal trainer or take a class or go running or something. Or even if I do end up weight training, to do it on my own at my own pace. I just never really did any of this before so I don't really know what I'd like.
  • yeah i had an ex who did the same thing. Notice how I said ex. At first it was for my "health" but it was all about me being skinnier. Maybe I'm cynical but I don't think I could be with someone who is sending me articles about fitness without me even asking. I'm with a wonderful man who loves me for me. My dad told him to make sure I don't get fat and you know what he said? I don't care if she does, I'll always love her. I'm now trying to get in better shape, but I'm doing it for me and no one else.
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  • AzAnnieAzAnnie member
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    If you want to get healthy hire a personal trainer and take Fi out do the equation. That way there a third party telling you what needs to be done and if Fi says anything you can say "my trainer does not agree with that."
  • emmyg65emmyg65 member
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    He's out of line. If I were in your position, I'd ban any talk of exercise or health. No "helpful hints," no unsolicited emails, nothing. This information is widely available and if you want to seek it out, you're perfectly capable of doing so on your own. But it's none of his business and he's demonstrated an inability to be helpful in this area. 
  • Hi guys,

    Thanks for all the feedback! It really helped me hit all the angles on what I wanted to say to him in regards to how and why what he's doing isn't loving or appropriate.

    I'm also glad that you guys are able to be honest and say that he's being controlling - it's not the way I'd describe it, and when I first read those comments my instinct was to be defensive and say that it's too harsh and cynical. But when we spoke and I brought up that his behavior can be seen as being controlling, I think those were the words that made it really "click" with him about why the way he's been approaching it was wrong, and he did apologize.

    So basically where we're at now is he told me whatever level of participation I want, he'll try to stick to. My first instinct was to say that I never want to hear anything about it ever again LOL, but I know that that's unrealistic. And I also like that we've always been able to talk about anything and I don't want to start a pattern that topics that make us uncomfortable are off limits. I also know that it is genuinely important to him, and kinda hard to enforce.

    So I asked him to just give me a 3 month cool down period right now so I can have time and space to figure out a routine that I'll feel comfortable with trying without his input and opinions. No bringing it up from either of us, (he pointed out that it's not fair to him if I ask him for advice and then get bristled if it's not what I want to hear), no going to the gym together.

    After that, if *I* feel like I want advice or need help on something I'll ask him, and we can talk about it as long as we're both being supportive of each other. But absolutely no more negativity or criticism and no pressure. If I decide after 3 months that I just don't GAF and rather sit on the couch for the rest of my life (lol), he needs to be ok with that. And I need to follow the same rules, as he said he felt like I've been a bit snide and snarky about his gym activities (not untrue, though it was coming as a reaction to how he'd been acting).

    Anyhow, I think we compromised well, and hopefully it'll work. Will update if it doesn't. Thanks again ladies! This really helped in a way that just talking to my friends wouldn't have :)
  • A little late on this, but additional perspecive/advice. 

    I've gained a lot of weight since my husband and I started dating/got married. i've been up and down a lot in the past few years and i finally got fed up with the way my weight was impacting my health. My husband has always been supportive and loving no matter what my weight - and you really need that from your FI. He is coming off very pushy/controlling, and I agree with the other ladies who said you were better off not using him as your coach. He'd be better off supporting you by chipping in for some personal training sessions, or volunteering to cook (healthy) meals. 

    My problems are eating too  much junk and not working out enough. I get exercise ADD - I really have a tough time sticking with one thing for more than a few days/weeks. I decided to start a DietBet in April, and hoped that the money would be a good motivating factor. I've been switching up my workouts and am still having occasional junk food, and I've managed to lose almost 14lbs since Easter. I hate running, so I limit my treadmill time - I do a mix of weights, yoga, zumba, bootcamp, and T25 workouts. I find that taking classes or having a workout buddy helps me a lot - even if it's my 3yo daughter bouncing around while I follow a DVD.

    Take your time, figure out what you enjoy doing (in terms of exercise/activity) and where you can make small changes in your eating habits. Make sure whatever you are doing is for you alone - it will help to have a supportive FI to cheer you on, but you really need to be doing this for yourself. 
  • One more thing - there's no shame in modifying the workout so it fits you and your comfort zone. If you can only lift 10 or 20 lbs, then lift that. As it gets easier, add a few more pounds. If you have trouble with some moves, ask the coach for a modifier, or make up your own - just keep moving. If you get tired, rest for 30-60 seconds, and then try again. Set small goals and then increase as you get more comfortable. (If it's tough to get through a 30 minute workout, split it into 3x10min or 2x15min.) Don't get discouraged if it's tough in the beginning - it's tough for everyone.
  • tcnobletcnoble member
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    @aquietseason I know you've posted that you mostly resolved the issue, but a month ago I was in a very similar situation as you so thought it might be helpful to hear another person's story.

    FI and I don't live together, but have been together for almost 6 years. For the duration of our relationship we have both carried some extra pounds, but it has never been an issue for us. In 2012, he joined a gym and really got in to fitness and changing his lifestyle. I fully supported him and enjoyed hearing about it. Fast forward to Summer 2013 - I joined his gym (per my own decision) and got set up with the owner/personal trainer for a few sessions. I really enjoyed it. We were able to be at the gym together - not working out together though - and we liked to discuss our progress and new things we liked doing.

    We got engaged in September 2013 and both agreed we want to look our best for our wedding (March 2015).

    The struggle started shortly after our engagement. My older sister passed away, work got way overwhelming, I took on a second job... just a lot on my end. Our gym is a 30 minute drive from my house, so between LIFE in general, making time for the gym was causing more stress for me than the former enjoyable feelings. I stopped going. I maintained my healthy eating, but going to the gym 5 days a week was NOT feasible for me. Meanwhile, FI continued going 6 days a week. He started to make backhanded comments to me about how I don't go to the gym, nothing about my weight, but about my lack of efforts to be in the gym. I finally snapped one day when we were at the Nike store. We went so he could pick up some new gym shoes. He then says "Do you want to look at anything? Oh wait, you don't GO to the gym." and I made a huge scene in the Nike store and ripped him a new one about how disrespectful and rude his comments were. Until that moment I don't think he really understood how irritated I was by his low blow comments. Like dude, do your shit and I'll handle mine. Period. I'm far from being a candidate for My 600lb Life on TLC, so back off.

    We later had a more level headed conversation where he got a better understanding of WHY I wasn't going to the gym anymore, and why it really pissed me off that he would make comments as if I sit at home 23 hours a day and pick my nose instead of going to the gym. After that conversation we are back to a place where I greatly respect his fitness efforts, and he respects everything else I have going on in my life while still trying my best to maintain a healthy lifestyle via clean eating and taking walks with my dog which I very much enjoy. I'm really happy we were able to get to this place together, and there are no more hurt feelings.

    Anyways, I hope you stick to your 3 month plan and he can respect it. Fitness and health can be such a touchy topic, especially when you're at the "well I COULD lose weight, but if I don't I'm okay too" stage (which is where I am) and you have someone who has made fitness a regimented part of their life (our FIs). It's important he understand where you're coming from and respects it, as you do for him. I hope you update us and reach out if you need more friendly thoughts and advice! :)
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  • To update since it's been about 4 months since this blow up -- while no one is 100% perfect, everything's been so much better. 

    For the first month or so he really just dropped the topic entirely, which was exactly the break from it I needed. I ended up finding a good beginner's strength training program in July, and while it took some fits and starts to get comfortable just being in the gym (my own issues, not his) lately we've been working out generally at the same time but not "with" each other.

    So far I haven't seen really any change on the scale which is a bit frustrating, so the next step is to make some changes in our diet (which is tough because we love to go out). But I've been feeling stronger and a bit more confident, which is great! 


    So I just wanted to say another thank you -- I know these boards get a lot of flack about "mean girls", but your feedback really helped me to say what I needed to say to take control of the situation rather than be silently seething or turning it into a bigger issue than it needed to be.
  • MesmrEweMesmrEwe member
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    edited September 2014

    Great to hear OP!!!  That said - as a competitive lifter - PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE find a new gym to attend!  There's the #1 source of your problem with change right now.  The environment at Planet Fitness is not for you to succeed because once you do start to show progress, they kick you out, really think about it with the tootsie rolls, pizza, and lack of in-shape personal trainers  - is that contributing to your success or getting in the way.  It may be great to get you started moving, but not to succeed at toning up and achieving your real fitness goals.  Also, never look at the scale as the marker of your fitness success, look at how your clothes are fitting and how you feel instead. 

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