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So this is what it's like to be normal, huh?

I always suspected I had ADHD inattentive type, but never bothered getting it looked into. I finished college the first time and figured if I was a little attention defecit in the field I was in, no biggie. I have a number of rituals and coping skills that essentially get me through the day. 

A series of events prompted me to finally go. I decided to go back to school for nursing, and I knew the analytical side would be a challenge. I stumbled on a thread on a nursing forum about it where people were sharing their experiences and I was like oh my God, I am reading about myself. 

Like we all know what ADHD. Daydreaming, not paying attention, forgetful, flaky, hyper if that's your thing, whatever. But the more informal descriptions really got me. Things like always having a ton of tabs open on the computer, and internet basically being like crack in the first place. Having OCD like rituals- the keys MUST GO ON THE RING OR THEY WILL BE LOST TO MOUNT DOOM (or possibly the refrigerator). Sensation seeking through food or lack thereof, drugs, sex, endorphins. Coffee coffee coffee all the time, but no jitters. Difficulty focusing, but if it's something interesting good luck interrupting. Symptoms of anxiety and depression stemming from failures from lack of attention. Being smart and creative but not doing well in school. Having a hard time making friends. Struggling with finances. On and on, it was like a 12 page thread and I devoured it. 

Then that week I made a med error at work and I ripped off the sideview mirror of my car backing out of my garage, so I finally made arrangements. At this point in my life I feel pretty content with myself, but am afraid my lapses of attention would eventually cause me to harm someone as a nurse. 

Let me tell you, all that stuff people say about psychs diagnosing ADHD willy nilly is a bunch of crap. I had to go in for appointments a ton of times and probably spent around a grand since my insurance sucks. I saw a counselor, who referred me to a therapist, who referred me to a nurse practitioner, who referred me to a psychologist that I had to see three times, and back to the nurse practitioner whom I have to continue seeing on a regular basis to make sure my meds are going well. I had to submit to potential drug testing to affirm that I am not on illicit drugs and I am, in fact, on my drugs to ensure I'm not selling them. I have to see her before each refill and I can only refill up to 3 days before running out, can only go to one pharmacy, etc. I couldn't call the pharmacy and have it ready when I got there, I had to give them the physical slip of paper. 

So anyway. I got put on 20 mg Adderall extended release and I took it for the first time this morning. WHOA. This is how normal people think? Trippy. I went to class and still had lapses of attention here and there but overall I was actually absorbing what they were saying instead of being interrupted by thoughts like "I should go to Trader Joes" and stranger and more existential things. I thought I would hate only thinking about one thing at a time but so far it's fucking amazeballs. I drove home and actually paid attention to where I was at without having to check in on myself periodically. I feel awake. I was put on Zoloft before getting the Adderall to rule out depression as being the cause of my lax attention, and I did feel a little bit better so I'm still on it (Was diagnosed with depression 7 years ago but haven't been on meds for years) but now I really don't think I need it. I really think all my problems stem from the ADHD. 

Hopefully I don't crash down when it wears off but I don't think it will as I don't feel high, which kinda confirms that I have it. I just feel clarity and it's so alien. Maybe a little bit manic-ish but I think I am just so excited that it's working and am amazed by the possibilities. 

That got long. Just wanted to share. Yay for better living through chemistry. 
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Re: So this is what it's like to be normal, huh?

  • That's awesome! I'm glad you were able to get some help!

    Although based on your description I'm pretty sure I'm not normal either.

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  • I'm pretty sure none of us are normal. :)

    So glad you are feeling well!!
  • That's really great!

    I know it's not really the same but I remember a few years ago when my eye doctor finally discovered that I have astigmatism and got me contact lenses to correct for it. I was 22 years old and never realize how defined the leaves in trees should look or just how not blurry the world in general should be. It was a great feeling, I imagine it's even better for you because it effects your life so much more!



  • That's really great!

    I know it's not really the same but I remember a few years ago when my eye doctor finally discovered that I have astigmatism and got me contact lenses to correct for it. I was 22 years old and never realize how defined the leaves in trees should look or just how not blurry the world in general should be. It was a great feeling, I imagine it's even better for you because it effects your life so much more!

    Haha, that happened to me in high school.  I kept telling my Mom I had headaches and was having trouble seeing the board and concentrating in school.  I wanted to go to the optometrist and she just told me to stop being dramatic.  Then we had a mandatory health evaluation from a school nurse and the nurse sent me home with a note that essentially said, "For the love of god, get this child some glasses."  When I finally got glasses and put them on, it was like I was seeing a whole new world. 


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  • That's how glasses were for my H too! He's always been practically blind and he was pretty young when he finally got glasses, but it was like a whole new world. Funny how sometimes we just don't know what we're missing. 
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  • My first experience with adderall was amazing. It still kind of hypes me out, I talk a lot faster when I take it, and it kills my appetite (so I have to have alarms to remember to eat), but I can tell the difference in the days I don't take it.

    So glad you finally went and got some help! I think so many people have been told "oh ADHD isn't a real thing" or "oh that's something kids deal with" yeah...no. Adult onset ADD is very real and happens all the time. And everyone thinks it's just that annoying goof off kid in the back of class. Or that it means you never sit down and read a book. I can sit for hours and sketch. Because I like it. Because it's stimulating the right parts of my brain. But a one on one conversation for me is a struggle. And sitting totally still? No never ever going to happen. Its not because I'm bored my brain is telling me sixteen different things right now and I'm trying to sort through them and listen to you and moving my body a little helps!
  • Glad you're feeling better!

    Reading your post made me think "yeah, that's me" and I should probably go to a doctor...but then it made me dread the thought of jumping through all those hoops. I had to go through stuff like that when I was on accutane (had to get a blood test and take a test online before every refill) and it drove me nuts.

    Just curious - was knotting at work listed as one of the symptoms? Because I have a fuckload of TK tabs open right now...
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  • What does normal even mean, anyway? Nobody is normal.

    And just because you got some adderall doesn't mean you won't make errors at work!
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  • I normally just lurk on this board, but I've commented a few times today, and this just hit me. 

    I made a really big work mistake the other day (luckily my work doesn't involve anything life threatening haha) and I have a meeting with my boss tomorrow to discuss the repercussions. I've said for years that I have ADHD, but never really thought it was that detrimental to my everyday life.

    Reading what you just wrote, and thinking about my life on a day-to-day basis, and how I handle things at work, and at home... I feel like I should go about getting officially diagnosed. I have been diagnosed with anxiety and depression and am on meds for that, but I still have control issues and racing thoughts almost 100% of the time.

    I'm feeling a lot of feelings about this right now, haha.  



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  • I have wondered if I have adult onset too. I read up on it, but not everything applies to me (I'm not depressed, for example, and I have always gotten high grades in school), so I wonder if I'm just being ... weird. But a lot of what others have written here does indeed apply to me. 
    (I have 10 tabs, 2 spreadsheets, and a folder open right now, BTW.)
    I have a very hard time focusing on projects at work, but I still don't miss deadlines because heavenforbidimissadeadlineandfail!  
    I change subjects quickly in conversations. I tend to interrupt people with other streams of consciousness (but I really try not to interrupt because I know it's rude). 

    Give me a good book and I will sit for houuuuuurrrrsss....

    I haven't sought treatment because it doesn't affect my life in any negative way aside from the awareness that my brain goes in a bunch of different directions at all times. 
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  • larrygaga said:
    What does normal even mean, anyway? Nobody is normal.

    And just because you got some adderall doesn't mean you won't make errors at work!
    Very true. Hey I still made a few mistakes at school today. It's not a magic fix all pill, but I feel like the types of errors I tend to make will be drastically reduced. Things where I THINK I'm paying attention, but it turns out I'm not. The error I made was passing meds. Most of the patient's meds were in bottles but there was one in a bubble pack. I decided to go through the other meds and go back to the bubble pack, and I never did, and when it was caught the following day and I got a call about it I was shocked. It's that kind of stupid thing, when I've been doing this for two years and I've been doing this particular set of this particular patient's meds for a while, and there's just a few really simple meds with a couple pages to sign off on that I did them. Just really stupid stuff where I absolutely know better and have no idea I did something wrong until it's too late. 

    Or when I used to work at a dairy, I got in huge trouble a couple times with milking the wrong cows, needing to dump out a couple grand of milk out. I would've been fired the second time but I basically offered to work for free that day to get things caught up and that showed my boss I wasn't purposely being careless. I was trying so damn hard and I had major anxiety to where I'd leave work and get home and then hours later sneak back to make sure I didn't make a mistake, and I made them anyway because at some point I'd just zone out. Especially when it's something really repetitive like milking cows where it's super easy to get lost in my own thoughts, leading me to forget some menial but essential task (in this case, disconnecting the milk supply before milking the sick cows so that they don't contaminate it).

    Everything takes me forever because I've learned to double and triple check every damn thing I do and I still manage to fuck it up pretty darn often. It's like having an invisible little gremlin that randomly jumps in to screw everything up for me. Meds seem to put it on a shorter leash. 

    So anyway, I'm just relieved I seem to be doing well on it. I've been on antidepressants that made me feel like I was in a fog, I was numb, not myself. With how closely linked ADHD is to creativity, I was afraid treatment would wreck it or turn me into something closer to a robot than my artsy fartsy weirdo self. I still very much feel like myself, just with fewer fuckups and frustrations. 

    That got rambly and doesn't really have that much to do with the quote in the end but whatever. 
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  • Just to throw it out there, according to the information I've gotten there is no such thing as adult ONSET ADHD. Adult ADHD that wasn't diagnosed until adulthood, absolutely. But for a diagnosis there have to have been symptoms at a young age. 

    I actually ended up with an official diagnosis of unspecified ADHD because I was supposed to have my mom fill out a survey but I didn't feel comfortable having her do that so I just filled in what I knew (like the fact that I was breech and caesarian but otherwise it was a healthy birth). I also filled out my own survey about what I was like as a child, with symptoms being there for as long as I remember but officially at age 5. It has to be before age 12. 

    But since I didn't have the official backup from my mom about what I was like as a baby and very young child, I'm officially unspecified since I don't have critical information pertaining to the diagnosis. 
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  • My H didn't get diagnosed with ADHD until later in college. It was a life changer for him. He said he used to spend hours reading Wikipedia. Just opening tabs and reading about random things. He always had problems focusing in school, but he got good grades through high school, so his parents never thought anything of it. 

    When he's not on his meds, he drives me nuts! Always interrupting me and super hyper. 
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  • I have wondered if I have adult onset too. I read up on it, but not everything applies to me (I'm not depressed, for example, and I have always gotten high grades in school), so I wonder if I'm just being ... weird. But a lot of what others have written here does indeed apply to me. 
    (I have 10 tabs, 2 spreadsheets, and a folder open right now, BTW.)
    I have a very hard time focusing on projects at work, but I still don't miss deadlines because heavenforbidimissadeadlineandfail!  
    I change subjects quickly in conversations. I tend to interrupt people with other streams of consciousness (but I really try not to interrupt because I know it's rude). 

    Give me a good book and I will sit for houuuuuurrrrsss....

    I haven't sought treatment because it doesn't affect my life in any negative way aside from the awareness that my brain goes in a bunch of different directions at all times. 
    Ugh I hear you on changing subjects - I will randomly just blurt out something that has nothing to do with what's currently going on because my brain has already moved on.  
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  • You are me. I was in my 40's when I was diagnosed with adhd. I have been on concerta for years. It lifts some of the fog of inattention and helps me. I wish I could take a stronger dose but the next one up makes my heart race
    . The depression that follows the failure of getting something done has always haunted me. Good luck with your meds and I hope they help you!
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