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Am I off base here?

Sex issues aside, H and I are TTC. I've been off BC for several months. I have PCOS and don't ovulate, so today was my consultation with my RE about starting Clomid. H knew about it. Has known about it for three weeks, I reminded him every few days (because he asked when it was again), it's in our shared Google Calendar. Also, I had to call him DURING the appointment because I had an insurance question. 

During the appointment the RE did a saline Sonohysterogram, and it went horribly. I had severe pain, which is rare, and as a sexual assault survivor, any pain in that area messes with me emotionally, which H knows. He also knows PCOS in itself is a mindfuck and I'm sensitive about it. But he didn't even ask me how the appointment went when he got home. 3 hours after he got home I told him about it. He didn't take any interest in the procedure gone bad. In fact while I was telling him that it hurt so bad I was crying for a good ten minutes in the exam room, he kept watching tv. Didn't ask me if I was ok, no sorry dears, no poor poodles, nothing. Then he got pissy a little later when I tried to talk about what happens next, because he was playing a game on his tablet and "can't drop what he's doing if I start talking to him 2 seconds into it." 

He never asks questions. Never looks anything up. Gets pissy with me if I get emotional or worry this might not happen. I told him it upset me that he didn't even ask how my appointment went, or ask if I was ok after I told him what happened during it. Didn't ask where we go from here, how long til we know something, nothing. That his lack of interest was hurtful to me because I invest so much time in understanding his issues, and the process of trying to give him the biological child HE insists on (I'd be perfectly happy adopting) should at least be worth a passing glance at google and a "How did it go?" That I feel alone in this, and I am because he can't do much, but he could at least attempt to educate himself. I told him that I know he cares, and that to him nothing is happening until something is actually happening, but to me every part of this is a big deal, and it would be nice if he would at least keep tabs. He said he would try, but acted as though I was asking for something unreasonable. He did apologize for not asking how my appointment went. 

I know a lot of you ladies have gone through infertility, and I guess I just want to know how your SOs handled it. I feel he should be educating himself, even if through asking me, at least a little. I feel he should at least ask how my appointments go and what's next, and give me hair pats when bad things happen. Am I asking too much? 

Re: Am I off base here?

  • You're not asking too much at all. She should be there for you and he should definitely be educating himself so he knows what you are going through. You might be the one who has to go through all the stuff to get pregnant but you will both be having a baby and I really feel like both of you need to be actively involved in everything from the beginning.
  • You're not asking too much at all. I agree 100% with @jdluvr06 - both of you need to be actively involved with everything from the beginning. You shouldn't have to ask him to be supportive.

    Is he always like this when you are emotional about something? Or is this new behavior just regarding the infertility issues?


  • You're not asking too much at all. I agree 100% with @jdluvr06 - both of you need to be actively involved with everything from the beginning. You shouldn't have to ask him to be supportive.

    Is he always like this when you are emotional about something? Or is this new behavior just regarding the infertility issues?
    His mother used emotions to manipulate the family when he was growing up, so he has a gut reaction that I'm just being manipulative. Ever since a come to Jesus fight where I told him he married a sensitive person and he has to get over it because I've learned he's just tactless and I rarely take offense to what he says, so he can compromise a little, he's gotten a lot better. 

    When I'm upset over something he says or does, we can talk it out or fix it. But he can't fix my PCOS, so it upsets him. So he doesn't like me bringing up something he can't fix. I remind him it's not about him, it's about me needing emotional support, and that helps, but he sometimes accuses me of being negative when I'm just trying to get my fears and frustrations talked out. He doesn't worry about anything until it's falling on his head, and even then he ignores it if he can, and anything other than that is worrying too much to him. 
  • You are absolutely not out of line to expect emotional support from your spouse. That what marriage is about, isn't it? I understand his psychological need to fix things, and the pain it causes him not being able to fix your PCOS, but that does not excuse him for snapping at you and refusing to talk/deal. As you've pointed out, this whole procedure is necessary because he is insistent on a biological child, which you are doing your damnedest to give him. It really is not that much to ask for that he ask how you're doing and offer you support.

    I really hope that the two of you can work out a way to deal with all of this together, especially if you're TTC. Stress is bad for the conception process, and communication issues are bad for families. Good vibes in your direction!
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  • Could you have a fresh conversation about adoption? Since PCOS generally makes it difficult to conceive and he's frankly being kind of an ass in not supporting your feelings or trying to help you through it in any way, I think you're perfectly justified to tell him you simply don't want to go through the struggle of trying to get pregnant and you want to start working towards adoption because it tends to be an even longer process than pregnancy.
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  • I don't think you're off base here. I think he's acting very insenstive towards you, and you deserve to have his emotional support. 
  • I don't think you're off base here either. I think you're right on base. Which brings up the question: Why are you TTC with someone who is emotionally unavailable to you and your needs? Seems that there is a bigger issue here than him not being involved in your medical needs/TTC. 

    I do wish you, both, all the best. 

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  • Is he like this with any other issues? I know DH gets weirded out when I talk about "woman stuff" as he calls it.   I'm not excusing his behavior, but it might explain why he doesn't show an interest in what you are going through.

    We are currently TTC as well and I have been off my birth control pill since October 5th and after a normal first cycle I am currently on day 82 of cycle 2.  I've given DH the high level info of what is/is not going on and I'm not even sure he is aware that I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow.

    Regardless, if you ask for emotional support and he is ignoring you that is not good.
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  • I think your expectations are perfectly normal. He seems a little apathetic. I would definitely expect some support from him.
  • The thing is, with any other emotionally charged issues he's great. When my mom attempted suicide, he was supportive. When my dog was sick and after he died, he was great. Last year when my dad was burned in a welding accident he took my idiot brother off my mom's hands before she murdered him for being an ass, and he did it gladly. He's typically good at being emotionally available. It's just this one issue. 

    In this, like all medical issues, he expects me to do the legwork and just tell him what to do, I guess. I manage his health too because he ignores things until he can't anymore. The only reason he saw an RE about his testosterone and had spinal surgery is because I pushed him. I don't know why he buries his head in the sand until pushed to do otherwise, maybe it's his ADHD, maybe he's just an ass. Although he did initiate getting ADHD meds and getting back on his testosterone, so that's a positive step too. When he's medicated he's a lot better at staying on top of things. I guess I just want him to ask what he can do to support me or take it upon himself to be informed rather than having me tell him what to do.  

  • The thing is, with any other emotionally charged issues he's great. When my mom attempted suicide, he was supportive. When my dog was sick and after he died, he was great. Last year when my dad was burned in a welding accident he took my idiot brother off my mom's hands before she murdered him for being an ass, and he did it gladly. He's typically good at being emotionally available. It's just this one issue. 

    In this, like all medical issues, he expects me to do the legwork and just tell him what to do, I guess. I manage his health too because he ignores things until he can't anymore. The only reason he saw an RE about his testosterone and had spinal surgery is because I pushed him. I don't know why he buries his head in the sand until pushed to do otherwise, maybe it's his ADHD, maybe he's just an ass. Although he did initiate getting ADHD meds and getting back on his testosterone, so that's a positive step too. When he's medicated he's a lot better at staying on top of things. I guess I just want him to ask what he can do to support me or take it upon himself to be informed rather than having me tell him what to do.  

    So is he currently taking his meds as prescribed?  That could be part of the problem.
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  • Could you have a fresh conversation about adoption? Since PCOS generally makes it difficult to conceive and he's frankly being kind of an ass in not supporting your feelings or trying to help you through it in any way, I think you're perfectly justified to tell him you simply don't want to go through the struggle of trying to get pregnant and you want to start working towards adoption because it tends to be an even longer process than pregnancy.
    I agree with this.

    I'd tell him you're doing all this for him, and if he doesn't care or take any interest, then your not going through these huge invasive procedures anymore. 

    My husband is bad about going to the doctor too. I had to find him his PCP since he hadn't gone to one in years. But he's always supportive in regards to my health.
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  • levioosalevioosa member
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    edited February 2015
    If he can't handle you talking to him about a serious issue because he is playing a game, how is he going to handle a two year old who will interrupt literally every part of his life to ask a question?  If it means this much to him, he needs to be supportive and proactive.  If his meds are off, perhaps he needs to go see his PCP to adjust them.  But I still don't think that's an excuse for brushing you off.  He needs to trust that you're not manipulating him when you come to him with an emotion.  Kids are a huge challenge.  If he is having trouble with something like this, he might not be ready for them yet, despite what he says. 


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  • I was a little sympathetic towards him, as guys so often can't relate to what we women go through with anything gynecological.

    But that stopped when you mentioned the biological child he "insists" on. How dare he! He is in this life, like we all are, we take our chances. No one is guaranteed or has the right to expect anything.

    Do what you think is right. Your mental health counts as much or more than anything.


  • I have a question. You said he's insisting on a biological child, but is he insisting right now? Like, what if he isn't ready to have kids yet. What if he definitely wants a biological child which is why he insisted on it, but wants to wait a few years?  That would explain why he's acting so out of sorts.


  • levioosa said:
    If he can't handle you talking to him about a serious issue because he is playing a game, how is he going to handle a two year old who will interrupt literally every part of his life to ask a question?  If it means this much to him, he needs to be supportive and proactive.  If his meds are off, perhaps he needs to go see his PCP to adjust them.  But I still don't think that's an excuse for brushing you off.  He needs to trust that you're not manipulating him when you come to him with an emotion.  Kids are a huge challenge.  If he is having trouble with something like this, he might not be ready for them yet, despite what he says. 
    This is exactly what I was thinking?

    Annnndddd, If he doesn't seem interested now, what would make you want to continue to pursue this? I know I want my husband to be excited when he knows we're TTC.

  • He has been ready for a year now, but I put it off so we could get finances in order, deal with his ADHD, and work on our communication.

    When I said he insists on a bio kid, I meant I brought up adopting so a) I wouldn't have to deal with all this crap and internalize every setback, as is my wont and b) because between our two families are a lot of medical problems, and I'm concerned about passing on our shitty genes. He wants to try for one of our own first, because he wants that and that's valid. I draw the line at IVF. If it gets to that point he understands I won't do it.

    He is excited about having a baby. I have to pull him out of baby departments in stores. I just don't think he understood what conceiving entailed, and that it would be a huge deal to me, which makes him a little bit clueless. If he doesn't wise up and take an interest of his own volition, not just to shut me up, believe me, I will end it just like I did last Spring, and will not restart it again. He is 33 and if he's not mature enough for infertility now, he probably never will be. I know that.
  • I am so sorry. I have PCOS too and if my H acted like this there would be some serious come-to-Jesus talks about his behavior. 

    Hugs for you, friend. 
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