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The Bride who wants to have it all

edited February 2015 in Wedding Etiquette Forum
Hello Etiquette Board!

I was active here while planning my wedding in 2012 and haven't been around much since, but recently received a Save the Date from a friend and I am just so dumbfounded by the amout of Faux Pas this bride has made. 

We were invited to her engagement party several weeks ago by a friend of the bride hosting a "stock the bar" engagment party at the bride's home.  We were under the impression that the bride and groom were eloping in the caribbean, so were a little surprised they were having an engagement party. we couldn't attend the engagement party because of another wedding, and were a little turned off by the request to bring gifts to "stock the bar" for the wedding, but ultimately not a mis-step on the part of the bride, but rather her friend. 

Last week we received a save the date, which got me excited, because "oh yay, they are getting married in the states, now the engagement party makes sense".  Turns out, no. they are getting married in the caribbean, but throwing a party a couple months later, where the bride will wear her dress. we are not invited to the wedding ceremony, just the party several months later. The save the date also asked us to consider a gift to their honeymoon registry (i.e. the trip they're getting married on). Of least concern to me, this party, which is near where we live, is on my H's 30th birthday, I've been planning throw him a party that weekend, which would now cause friends to have to choose. 

At this point H's party probably won't happen. but I'm wondering if there is a graceful way to get out of going to this "wedding" (though a small part of me want to go watch the train wreck). I have no plans to pay for their vacation, but would you bring or send a small gift? other friends in this group don't seem offended by how this whole thing was approached, but I'm just beside myself. 

advice? laughs?


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Re: The Bride who wants to have it all

  • So did they ask for two gifts? One for the engagement party and one for their destination wedding?

    Sorry but I'm a little baffled here. She wants the destination wedding and then a party when they get back and where the dress again?

    I would still hold your hubby's party. That's just me.

  • They put gift requests on a STD?   Who does that?


    Am I the only weird one who doesn't give gifts until the event?  So yeah, I'm not giving you a gift NOW to pay for a wedding that I'm not even invited to a few months from now.


    I just do not understand people basically begging people to pay for things they should be paying for.  It's simply blows my mind.


    What would I do?  Not attend.  Mostly because I have a feeling it would be a cash bar too.    I would send a card though.






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  • lyndausvi said:
    They put gift requests on a STD?   Who does that?


    Am I the only weird one who doesn't give gifts until the event?  So yeah, I'm not giving you a gift NOW to pay for a wedding that I'm not even invited to a few months from now.


    I just do not understand people basically begging people to pay for things they should be paying for.  It's simply blows my mind.


    What would I do?  Not attend.  Mostly because I have a feeling it would be a cash bar too.    I would send a card though.
    oh not the guests who supplied liquor/wine/beer at their "stock the bar" engagement party have paid for the bar. 
    yes, the wedding ceremony is mid-april, the party they are throwing for her to AW her dress is mid-june...so they're asking people to give gifts well before the event that people are actually invited to. 

    We have 7 other weddings this year, giving them a gift is low on my priority list. 
  • Gdaisy09 said:
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    Nope. No gift for them. You'll have to just decide if it's worth it to attend the party.

    ETA This couple is ballsy. "Your gift can be to pay for our wedding that you're not invited to."

    and then come to a party where presumably you've already paid for the bar...that's the cherry on top.
  • Gdaisy09 said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    -snip-

    Nope. No gift for them. You'll have to just decide if it's worth it to attend the party.

    ETA This couple is ballsy. "Your gift can be to pay for our wedding that you're not invited to."

    and then come to a party where presumably you've already paid for the bar...that's the cherry on top.
    I think a stock the bar party is to help the bride and groom stock the bar for their home not for their wedding.
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  • KatWAG said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    -snip-

    Nope. No gift for them. You'll have to just decide if it's worth it to attend the party.

    ETA This couple is ballsy. "Your gift can be to pay for our wedding that you're not invited to."

    and then come to a party where presumably you've already paid for the bar...that's the cherry on top.
    I think a stock the bar party is to help the bride and groom stock the bar for their home not for their wedding.
    nope-the e-vite for that party said help them stock the bar for their wedding
  • Gdaisy09 said:
    KatWAG said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    -snip-

    Nope. No gift for them. You'll have to just decide if it's worth it to attend the party.

    ETA This couple is ballsy. "Your gift can be to pay for our wedding that you're not invited to."

    and then come to a party where presumably you've already paid for the bar...that's the cherry on top.
    I think a stock the bar party is to help the bride and groom stock the bar for their home not for their wedding.
    nope-the e-vite for that party said help them stock the bar for their wedding

    Then decline the engagement party and the wedding. Problem solved.
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  • KatWAG said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    KatWAG said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    -snip-

    Nope. No gift for them. You'll have to just decide if it's worth it to attend the party.

    ETA This couple is ballsy. "Your gift can be to pay for our wedding that you're not invited to."

    and then come to a party where presumably you've already paid for the bar...that's the cherry on top.
    I think a stock the bar party is to help the bride and groom stock the bar for their home not for their wedding.
    nope-the e-vite for that party said help them stock the bar for their wedding

    Then decline the engagement party and the wedding. Problem solved.
    thanks. Fortunately we were out of town for the engagement party so it was a no brainer to decline. this whole thing just rubs me wrong in so many ways. She is a good friend, I feel a little sorry for her that she likely has no idea how rude she is being. And others in our collective group of friends don't seem to be nearly as bothered by it as I am, I'm afraid those friends might consider H and I to be the rude ones if we're in town and just choose not to go to their wedding, party, AW thingy
  • plainjane0415plainjane0415 member
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    Gdaisy09 said:
    KatWAG said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    KatWAG said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    -snip-

    Nope. No gift for them. You'll have to just decide if it's worth it to attend the party.

    ETA This couple is ballsy. "Your gift can be to pay for our wedding that you're not invited to."

    and then come to a party where presumably you've already paid for the bar...that's the cherry on top.
    I think a stock the bar party is to help the bride and groom stock the bar for their home not for their wedding.
    nope-the e-vite for that party said help them stock the bar for their wedding

    Then decline the engagement party and the wedding. Problem solved.
    thanks. Fortunately we were out of town for the engagement party so it was a no brainer to decline. this whole thing just rubs me wrong in so many ways. She is a good friend, I feel a little sorry for her that she likely has no idea how rude she is being. And others in our collective group of friends don't seem to be nearly as bothered by it as I am, I'm afraid those friends might consider H and I to be the rude ones if we're in town and just choose not to go to their wedding, party, AW thingy
    Why do you care so much about what people think?  If you're so bothered by it, don't go. You don't have to explain yourself to anyone.
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  • lilacck28lilacck28 member
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    edited February 2015
    If you don't want to go, then don't. You don't need to give an explanation, but it's pretty easy to say you had planned a nice dinner for your H's birthday (truth) or you weren't feeling well (possible lie). If you do go, and don't want to give a gift, just give a card... if she's a good friend, I'd still give her a gift regardless of etiquette blunders. I would also still have your Husband's party if you want to; just pick a different weekend. I agree, I think it would look bad to host that on the same weekend as the post wedding party thing if many of your friends overlap.
  • If she is such a good friend, why not try and talk to her about it. Or tell her how helpful TK forums were to you when you were planning your wedding. And we can set her straight.
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  • Gdaisy09 said:
    KatWAG said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    KatWAG said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    Gdaisy09 said:
    -snip-

    Nope. No gift for them. You'll have to just decide if it's worth it to attend the party.

    ETA This couple is ballsy. "Your gift can be to pay for our wedding that you're not invited to."

    and then come to a party where presumably you've already paid for the bar...that's the cherry on top.
    I think a stock the bar party is to help the bride and groom stock the bar for their home not for their wedding.
    nope-the e-vite for that party said help them stock the bar for their wedding

    Then decline the engagement party and the wedding. Problem solved.
    thanks. Fortunately we were out of town for the engagement party so it was a no brainer to decline. this whole thing just rubs me wrong in so many ways. She is a good friend, I feel a little sorry for her that she likely has no idea how rude she is being. And others in our collective group of friends don't seem to be nearly as bothered by it as I am, I'm afraid those friends might consider H and I to be the rude ones if we're in town and just choose not to go to their wedding, party, AW thingy

    Are they going to interrogate you on why you weren't there? Just send in the no rsvp no, if people are rude enough to ask you why just say you had a prior commitment or something. They don't need to know why you aren't going.

    I would probably still send a gift if they are really good friends but of course you are never required to.



  • lilacck28 said:
    If you don't want to go, then don't. You don't need to give an explanation, but it's pretty easy to say you had planned a nice dinner for your H's birthday (truth) or you weren't feeling well (possible lie). If you do go, and don't want to give a gift, just give a card... if she's a good friend, I'd still give her a gift regardless of etiquette blunders. I would also still have your Husband's party if you want to; just pick a different weekend. I agree, I think it would look bad to host that on the same weekend as the post wedding party thing if many of your friends overlap.
    Thanks, H and I will think some more if it's in our budget to give them a gift, going or not, we'll bring or send a card. Unfortunately with 7 other weddings this summer that weekend was basically the only option for hosting H's birthday party, I agree that it's probably in bad taste to plan it for the same day since they did send save the dates 5 months ahead of the event. Basically all of our friends in the area are part of this friend group. Thanks for all your input. H thought I was crazy when I essentially started yelling at the Save the Date card when we got it in the mail.
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  • How about taking your DH on a romantic birthday getaway for the weekend?  Gives you an honest out for the party (I'd probably feel guilty about declining the party if I really didn't have any other plans otherwise) and kills two birds with one stone, so to speak.  Maybe make it a surprise destination for him?  It could be a lot more fun than the party!
  • Up to you if it's worth it to go, but you could decline and if anyone asks tell them that you've already made plans for DH's 30th birthday, just the two of you. 

    Are people going to harass you over it? Hope not. And if they did, you could get snarky right back and ask what's the big deal, since it's not their wedding anyway ;)

    I would send a small gift depending on your friendship level (AFTER the Caribbean wedding). Even though friend is being rude, if you plan to continue being friends, I'd send something small so they know you were thinking about them. 
  • SP29 said:
    Up to you if it's worth it to go, but you could decline and if anyone asks tell them that you've already made plans for DH's 30th birthday, just the two of you. 

    Are people going to harass you over it? Hope not. And if they did, you could get snarky right back and ask what's the big deal, since it's not their wedding anyway ;). 

    I would send a small gift depending on your friendship level (AFTER the Caribbean wedding). Even though friend is being rude, if you plan to continue being friends, I'd send something small so they know you were thinking about them. 
    Yes, it's just a party. Do you feel obligated to go to every party you're invited to.

    I disagree with the second bolded. No one is obligated to get a gift, and someone who would stop being friends with someone who didn't get them a wedding gift (especially to a wedding they didn't even go to) is not a good friend.
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  • db1984 said:
    How about taking your DH on a romantic birthday getaway for the weekend?  Gives you an honest out for the party (I'd probably feel guilty about declining the party if I really didn't have any other plans otherwise) and kills two birds with one stone, so to speak.  Maybe make it a surprise destination for him?  It could be a lot more fun than the party!
    This. I'd feel guilty just being in town and choosing not to go to her party. It irritates me that she feels like she can have whatever she wants without paying for it, but she is a friend, and given that she expected big gifts at her housewarming this shouldn't have surprised me. I like the idea of a little getaway, just H and I (and probably our dog), I'll have to keep my eye on groupon and see if anything looks feasible. A little dissappointing about H's party as this is hopefully the last year it's just the two of us...but I'll get over it. 
  • I would be afraid to politely suggest a rude friend check out the Knot in fear she would find my post about said rudeness .. 

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  • Gdaisy09 said:
    db1984 said:
    How about taking your DH on a romantic birthday getaway for the weekend?  Gives you an honest out for the party (I'd probably feel guilty about declining the party if I really didn't have any other plans otherwise) and kills two birds with one stone, so to speak.  Maybe make it a surprise destination for him?  It could be a lot more fun than the party!
    This. I'd feel guilty just being in town and choosing not to go to her party. It irritates me that she feels like she can have whatever she wants without paying for it, but she is a friend, and given that she expected big gifts at her housewarming this shouldn't have surprised me. I like the idea of a little getaway, just H and I (and probably our dog), I'll have to keep my eye on groupon and see if anything looks feasible. A little dissappointing about H's party as this is hopefully the last year it's just the two of us...but I'll get over it. 
    If you're expanding your family then you should definitely do the getaway. Weekends like that will be a thing of the past for a few years at least. Speaking from experience couples time will be sparse and that weekend could be a bright memory in times of mommy frustrations.
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