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NWR: who's right?

My parent's neighbor's have pine trees lining the side of their house that's next to my parent's driveway. My parents park their cars in the garage and my younger brother and sister (they commute to school) park their cars on the driveway.

The issue my parents have is a lot of the needles from the trees fall off into their backyard, driveway, and cars. It's not really a big deal about the needles falling into the yard, but needles falling into the cars is a problem because they get underneath the hood and get stuck inside the wipers. My brother and sister end up having to always take the needles out. Also, the needles falling into the driveway is an issue too because my dad and mom have slipped a couple of times after it has rained.

My dad wrote a letter to the neighbor explaining this problem to him. The neighbor called and said he would trim them. He did once, but never did again. The treess grew, more needles, my dad got in touch again, but the neighbor did nothing about it. My dad called again, the neighbor did nothing.

Ok, so a couple of days ago, my dad hired some guys to do some yardwork and asked them to trim the pine trees that were giving him issues. The neighbors hapepened to be in their backyard and told the guys to stop. They took pictures of the trees that got trimmed and are giving my parents some issues now.

Now, my dad probably shouldn't have hired a guy to trim the trees without consulting the neighbors, but he's has asked them multiple times to do something. The neighbors are saying the trees are on their propery and they don't have to do anything.

So, my question is, who was in the wrong? Also, what would you suggest to help with the situation.? Sorry for the long post, I'm just at a loss

Re: NWR: who's right?

  • Yeah, the neighbors are right. They are THEIR tress. Their property. If my neighbor did that to one of my trees, I'd probably punch him in the face.

    This is a really strange post.


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  • That;s a legal question that would be addressed most probably in the HOA charter or city ordinances where they live. 
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  • It really depends on the law of your state.  Some states allow property owners to trim anything hanging over their property, some don't.  I'd love to be able to help you, but I honestly don't know.
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  • If I were upset about needles falling on my car, I'd probably park on the street.

    And she didn't say anything was hanging over that I read, she said that needles were falling onto their yard.

    If your neighbors leaf from their tree blows into your yard, are you gonna go cut your neighbors tree down?

    And honestly. Who would do that without consulting the neighbor? That's just rude.
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  • WTH? That's a long post for freakin' pine needles.

    I bet your family's known as the nitpickers of the neighborhood.
  • What makes this post even stranger is that OP only has 4 posts? WTF. I tell you me. On my 4th post here, I wouldn't think to post this.

    OF COURSE the neighbour is in the right. BUT, I do think your parents have some legitimate concerns. All of which will probably be thrown out the window because your dad stupidty told the landscaper to trim his NEIGHBOUR'S trees.

    Some people never cease to dumbfound me.
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  • Where we live, you can trim overhang.  I honestly don't know about non-overhanging tree branches that are causing a nuisance.  I think making the surface more slippery and getting jammed into the windshield wipers IS a nuisance.  I don't think it's reasonable to suggest your parents park in the street instead of in their own, paid-for driveway because the neighbors refuse to trim their trees in a way that won't cause your parents difficulty.

    I think the neighbors are being bad neighbors, but I don't know if your parents' solution was legal.  

  • She never said they overhang.


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  • For I would say 80% of the U.S. legally you are allowed to cut the branches that hang over your property line. You may not cut passed you line or try to harm the tree to get rid of it. Double check with the city though.  If your parents do pay someone to come on a regular basis to do so they can take the neighbors to small claims court for the cost.

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  • Even if they don't overhang, they can be trimmed in a way that doesn't cause the problem.  The neighbors did that for awhile, according to OP, but then stopped.  That was a diick move on their part, I think, and unreasonable.  That's why I think they're the bad neighbors and if someone told me "I don't feel like trimming my trees - park on the street" I'd be upset.  

     

    OP's parents shouldn't have taken matters into their own hands, though:  that'll probably cost them.  

  • The neighbors never told them to park on the street, so that's moot. If my trees didn't overhang, I probably wouldn't trim them either, especially if OP's parents did it without permission.
  • I know this is a strange situation, but I'm not making it up, promise. I was honestly asking for some advice, that's all. Also, to clarify, there's very little grass between my parents driveway and neighbor's trees. It's an old neighborhood, the trees are pretty mature now and the branches are fairly long and big. I don't know where the exact line between my parents lawn and the neighbor's is, but I'm willing to bet the branches are crossing the property line. Another thing, the trees weren't chopped up, just trimmed at the ends, that's all. The neighbors had done it before, but stopped because they couldn't afford the expense. I know my dad never should've done anything without consulting them, but I guess he was just trying to make everyone happy.

    Also, parking on the street isn't a big deal. The only thing is that parking is only allowed on one side of the street. Normally, not an issue, but when it's raining or snowing, and your car is not even parked across the street, but down the street because that was the only spot available, then it's just irritating. Anyhow, thanks for the advice. I know it's weird post for someone who joined fairly recently, but I swear it's not MUD.
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    Your parents need to and should have contacted their municipal office. The municipal office will require your dad to start logging when he saw dropped needles, how they affect his enjoyment of property, what he did to ask the neighbour to stop and when.

    If the town / city / bylaw officer sends someone out to the scene and they determine that it's a infringement on the enjoyment of your property, your neighbour will be force to trim the tree accordingly, move the tree or cut it down. 

    Call the city today and start logging your complaints in a journal. 
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  • I was reading this, and got toally distracted by cmmosley's ticker/RSVP count. When are you getting married. If your ticker is correct and you're not getting married for a year, why do you have an RSVP count? I'm totally confused.

    Sorry to threadjack OP - I'm pretty surey you're parents are wrong if what they guys were trimming were in the neighbor's yard. If they were hanging over in your yard you can usually trim that.
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  • I just finished talking to my dad, and he clarified the situation for me. He told me he knows where the property line is and he specifically told the contractor not to cut into the neighbor's yard. The reason the neighbor asked the guy to stop trimming was because he actually went over the line and into the neighbor's yard. My mom didn't realize the guy went over the line because she stepped into the house to take a phone call from my aunt, and when she came out, the damage had been done. When my dad got home, he spoke to the neighbors. Another guy who specializes in tree care is going to come on Monday and see what can be done to fix the situation. Whatever needs to be done, my dad will foot the bill for. So, I guess my dad was in the clear but the contractor didn't do the job properly and made a bit of a mess. Hopefully everything will work out fine. Thanks again for the replies. I don't think I'm going to ever post anything related to trees ever again lol.
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    [QUOTE]I was reading this, and got toally distracted by cmmosley's ticker/RSVP count. When are you getting married. If your ticker is correct and you're not getting married for a year, why do you have an RSVP count? I'm totally confused. Sorry to threadjack OP - I'm pretty surey you're parents are wrong if what they guys were trimming were in the neighbor's yard. If they were hanging over in your yard you can usually trim that.
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    THAT "totally distracted" you??? Why does it matter? So what she has an RSVP count now - it's to show how many people she's inviting. 
    I guess it doesn't take a lot to confuse you.
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  • Yes I am getting married in a year. I put it up because we have locked in our guest list and I had a really hard time find the ticker so when I got it from someone I put it up. I would rather be aerly then late for anything. I think thats why FI said he is glad we are getting married in a year because all my vendors would htink I am nuts trying to book them any further out then I did.
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