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Weird Change In TK Policy?

Hi ladies- I'm posting because I just discovered a weird change in TK policy that I wanted to make others aware of.  

I recently e-mailed the administrators at TK asking for my account to be deleted and the entire backlog of my posts to be removed.  Nothing against you ladies or the community here- it just so happens that I have a few opportunities on the horizon that have caused me to rethink my internet presence in general and made me slightly paranoid about people in RL potentially figuring out who I am on here by piecing together random bits of identifying information from throughout my posting history (nothing obvious like my address, full name etc).  It's not a huge deal- I just knew that in the past it was possible to ask the powers that be at TK to completely wipe your account and I felt the easiest thing to do would be to take advantage of that, especially since my wedding is over now and I didn't really intend on sticking around.  

Anyway, when I e-mailed TK administrators with my request they informed me that as of 2015 they no longer comply with requests for deletion of posting history, and will only oblige requests to delete specific posts if they fall under a very specific category (mostly things like giving out your address, SS number or other extremely personal identifying information).  This is obviously a new policy that, though it was doubtless posted somewhere on here, I wasn't aware of, and I just thought it was peculiar.  On the one hand I see the logic- deleting an entire poster's history can leave weird gaps in conversations and potentially remove important information that was beneficial to the community as a whole.  Refusal to delete also stops "special snowflakes" from coming on here, asking questions, getting mad at the answers they receive, and then deleting their accounts, which theoretically leads to more people asking the same questions over and over again without that backlog of similar questions to see how similar (dumb) ideas were (poorly) received. 

That being said, I think this change is overall a bad thing, and I'll tell you why.  I've seen what went down on the Bump a few weeks ago- if you aren't aware, in short a change in the rules over there and a mass banning of "regs" led to a major backlash and hundreds of their users requesting their accounts be deleted and their posting histories erased.  The admin over there scrambled to find a loophole that would allow them to not delete the posting histories of those accounts because such a large-scale exodus majorly impacted both the amount and quality of information that could be found on their site- I think they failed in that case, which was no doubt the impetus for this new policy over here.  In a lot of ways their community was very similar to this one- the regs who were banned were blunt, no-nonsense women who dispensed great advice but often "hurt the feelings" of new users who came into the community asking dumb and/or inappropriate questions.  The motivation behind the bannings was negative reviews from "special snowflakes" for the Bump's mobile app, complaining about the "meanness" and "snarkiness" of the community, which I believe to some degree is also the case with TK's mobile app.

So my (very long-winded, sorry) point is, I guess just be aware that this change has occurred and the fact that the advice you give and commentary you make on here basically "belongs" to TK now.  I can see what happened to TB easily occurring over here, and whereas they had the recourse of depriving that site of their wisdom when they felt insulted and belittled by their policies, we do not anymore.  

Re: Weird Change In TK Policy?

  • amelisha said:
    Honestly, every message board I think I've ever been on has something similar. It's, as you said, to keep the archive complete and to deter posters from saying things they might not want to be accountable for later.

    It's a good reminder, though, that nothing you put on the Internet is ever something that you can count on completely going away. There's always a chance anything you put out there can resurface.I know it sucks in your case, but yeah, I always assume that anytime I hit a "send" or "post" button, it might be around forever.
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  • Meh, just stop posting. Turn off any notifications.   People will forget about you.    


    True story.  I don't get why people feel the need to delete an account?  Stop coming on. It's that easy.

    I have a ton of message boards accounts from various boards that I couldn't tell you the usernames anymore.  I'm sure the other users don't remember me because I haven't been on the board in months or even years.






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  • You're really worried about people knowing who you are on TK? If anyone IRL found me on here, it wouldn't matter at all. I guess I don't understand the concern.
  • lyndausvi said:
    I have a ton of message boards accounts from various boards that I couldn't tell you the usernames anymore.  I'm sure the other users don't remember me because I haven't been on the board in months or even years.
    Truth. There were regs who left during the last exodus, people I "talked to" every single day for hours on end, and damned if I can remember most of their usernames. I can picture their avatars/sigs, but not their usernames.
  • Just to clarify, I'm not personally upset or concerned that my posting history can't be deleted- asking for that to be cleared was more of a paranoid precaution on my part, and I'm sure before long everything I've ever said will be sufficiently buried.  But the fact is that this is a recent change in TK's policy, and since I managed to overlook it I figured others might have done the same.  
  • I'm not sure of the big concern here. Anything you put out on the internet stays there forever. Even if you delete it, there is always a way to find this. 

  • You're really worried about people knowing who you are on TK? If anyone IRL found me on here, it wouldn't matter at all. I guess I don't understand the concern.
    Can you imagine if my sister found all the crap I've said about her on here? Maybe I'd use her own line and say "I'm not sorry for what I said cuz I was just being honest." That would probably solve a lot of problems, really. Haha. 

    @novella1186 - I kinda wish your sister would come on here and read it!  Then her psycho ass would know she doesn't have nearly the amount of people fooled by her bullshit that she thinks she does. 
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  • emmaaa said:
    I'm not sure of the big concern here. Anything you put out on the internet stays there forever. Even if you delete it, there is always a way to find this. 
    Three things that never go away in life, so put some thought and care into the shit you do: 

    1. Herpes
    2. Student Loans
    3. Shit you post on the internet 
    The bolded will stay around even after you die.  Luckily the other two go away!


  • emmaaa said:
    I'm not sure of the big concern here. Anything you put out on the internet stays there forever. Even if you delete it, there is always a way to find this. 
    Three things that never go away in life, so put some thought and care into the shit you do: 

    1. Herpes
    2. Student Loans
    3. Shit you post on the internet 
    The bolded will stay around even after you die.  Luckily the other two go away!
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think student loan debt doesn't go away when you die.


    As for the TK policy, good to know they'll delete all the posts where I included my social security number.
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    emmaaa said:
    I'm not sure of the big concern here. Anything you put out on the internet stays there forever. Even if you delete it, there is always a way to find this. 
    Three things that never go away in life, so put some thought and care into the shit you do: 

    1. Herpes
    2. Student Loans
    3. Shit you post on the internet 
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  • This is why I never post anything that I would be embarrassed about on any message boards.
                       

  • emmaaa said:
    I'm not sure of the big concern here. Anything you put out on the internet stays there forever. Even if you delete it, there is always a way to find this. 
    Three things that never go away in life, so put some thought and care into the shit you do: 

    1. Herpes
    2. Student Loans
    3. Shit you post on the internet 
    The bolded will stay around even after you die.  Luckily the other two go away!
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think student loan debt doesn't go away when you die.


    As for the TK policy, good to know they'll delete all the posts where I included my social security number.
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    As long as nobody was a cosigner, it does goes away when you die. I know bc my friend showed me the letter forgiving his wife's loans after she passed away. They might be able to go after your estate, but they can't go after your spouse, kids or parents for it.

    I'm sure that some SS posted her SS# at some point or they wouldn't have had to include that in the clause...you know that dress from China was probably totes worth ruining her credit over :sob:
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  • emmaaa said:
    I'm not sure of the big concern here. Anything you put out on the internet stays there forever. Even if you delete it, there is always a way to find this. 
    Three things that never go away in life, so put some thought and care into the shit you do: 

    1. Herpes
    2. Student Loans
    3. Shit you post on the internet 
    The bolded will stay around even after you die.  Luckily the other two go away!
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think student loan debt doesn't go away when you die.


    As for the TK policy, good to know they'll delete all the posts where I included my social security number.
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    As long as nobody was a cosigner, it does goes away when you die. I know bc my friend showed me the letter forgiving his wife's loans after she passed away. They might be able to go after your estate, but they can't go after your spouse, kids or parents for it.

    I'm sure that some SS posted her SS# at some point or they wouldn't have had to include that in the clause...you know that dress from China was probably totes worth ruining her credit over :sob:
    Yup.  Pretty sure it is the same for credit card debt.  When my one Grandfather passed he and his wife were in like $60K worth of credit card debt.  But since his name was the only name on one of the 4 cards $25K of it went away when he died.  Now of course that leaves $35K left but that too will go poof once my Grandmother dies.


  • emmaaa said:
    I'm not sure of the big concern here. Anything you put out on the internet stays there forever. Even if you delete it, there is always a way to find this. 
    Three things that never go away in life, so put some thought and care into the shit you do: 

    1. Herpes
    2. Student Loans
    3. Shit you post on the internet 
    The bolded will stay around even after you die.  Luckily the other two go away!
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think student loan debt doesn't go away when you die.


    As for the TK policy, good to know they'll delete all the posts where I included my social security number.
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    As long as nobody was a cosigner, it does goes away when you die. I know bc my friend showed me the letter forgiving his wife's loans after she passed away. They might be able to go after your estate, but they can't go after your spouse, kids or parents for it.

    I'm sure that some SS posted her SS# at some point or they wouldn't have had to include that in the clause...you know that dress from China was probably totes worth ruining her credit over :sob:
    Yup.  Pretty sure it is the same for credit card debt.  When my one Grandfather passed he and his wife were in like $60K worth of credit card debt.  But since his name was the only name on one of the 4 cards $25K of it went away when he died.  Now of course that leaves $35K left but that too will go poof once my Grandmother dies.
    It depends on whether there are any assets in the estate. Some more aggressive creditors will seek repayment from your assets after death. Looser creditors like credit cards are more likely to have policies to write off debt after a death, regardless of the assets in the estate, because so much bad debt is calculated into their business model. 

    There are also legal procedures like "years support" that allow spouses and children to jump ahead of creditors to get at assets in certain situations. 

    Still, I think my student loan creditors would sell my cadaver if they could get away with it. 
  • Yeah, I can't say I'm too concerned. Always assume that whatever you post on the interwebs will be around forever.
  • I kinda thought this was the policy. I feel like maybe I read something about it when I signed up roughly a year ago. It's the same on most boards, although I've seen stuff get wiped when a person was dealing with stalker issues. 
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  • emmaaa said:
    I'm not sure of the big concern here. Anything you put out on the internet stays there forever. Even if you delete it, there is always a way to find this. 
    Three things that never go away in life, so put some thought and care into the shit you do: 

    1. Herpes
    2. Student Loans
    3. Shit you post on the internet 
    The bolded will stay around even after you die.  Luckily the other two go away!
    Correct me if I'm wrong but I think student loan debt doesn't go away when you die.


    As for the TK policy, good to know they'll delete all the posts where I included my social security number.
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    As long as nobody was a cosigner, it does goes away when you die. I know bc my friend showed me the letter forgiving his wife's loans after she passed away. They might be able to go after your estate, but they can't go after your spouse, kids or parents for it.

    I'm sure that some SS posted her SS# at some point or they wouldn't have had to include that in the clause...you know that dress from China was probably totes worth ruining her credit over :sob:
    Ah, thank you. I found this article for anyone interested in more information: http://abcnews.go.com/Business/student-loans-die/story?id=19460467.



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