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Feeling a little lost...

FI and I are now just over a month away from our wedding and we're running into some issues with the WP that I have no clue how to deal with.

As far as attire goes, FI and I checked with the budgets of each WP member individually to figure out what people could afford and then chose tuxes/dresses based off lowest numbers. 

With a little over a month to go, 50% of FI's groomsmen still have not been fitted for tuxes. Is this normal? FI originally gave them the information and a date in mid-April that they should have been measured by, per the recommendation of the tux shop. One week after the deadline had passed, he sent out a gentle email reminding the guys that if they hadn't been measured, to please do so ASAP. We don't want to nag people, but we also understand that everyone has busy schedules. Now that it's mid-May, FI started sending a text to each guy that hadn't been measured to ask if appointments have been set up. 

Do we basically just hope at this point that these guys get it on time? I was hoping this would be a one message deal where he gave them the tux info and a shop and they all just did it. We've been worried that maybe finances have changed for some of them or something so when FI contacted each of the guys individually after the date had passed, he said he understood if things have changed and he offered to help any way he could with the tuxes, finances or otherwise. No one mentioned needing any help.

Finally, we have told everyone in the WP from the very start that if they are seeing someone, their SO will obviously be invited (as with every other guest!) but even if they aren't seeing someone, they are welcome to bring any guest of their choosing as a way of saying thanks for being with us on our wedding day! We've told everyone that their SOs and guests are also of course invited to the RD.

RD numbers are due next week, we've got an escort card meeting next week, and some members of our WP still don't know if they're bringing anyone or who they are bringing.

I don't want people to feel like we're rushing them, but I also feel like they've known about this for months. The RD is being hosted by FI's parents and they need numbers because it's a price per plate kind of deal. If these WP members don't get back to us about whether they're bringing a guest, what do we do? I don't want to be rude to them because of course FI's family wants to host all SO's and guests, but they also don't want to pay for people that might not come!

Finally, if the WP members still don't know who they are bringing by the time we meet with the calligrapher for escort cards, should we just have them write "and guest" on the card? I feel so uncomfortable with that! We want everyone who comes to feel welcome and to be addressed by name.

What should we do about all of this?
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Re: Feeling a little lost...

  • For the tuxes, have your FI actually call the guys. It's easy to be non-responsive or vague with a text. If he calls them, it's easier to figure out what the deal is, whether its money, time, laziness, or something else. What is the absolute deadline for them to get sized? 

    For dates, give each person a deadline (the same as the RSVP date) to get you the name of their date. Check with the FILs about when they need hard numbers for the RD, but it would typically be later than your hard numbers for the wedding. If guests can't give you a name by then, say "I'm sorry, but I have to get final numbers to our caterer by tomorrow, if you haven't decided on a guest yet, we won't be able to accommodate him/her." If you start place cards and seating charts before your RSVP deadline, leave blanks for those that haven't responded yet. 
  • For the tuxes, have your FI actually call the guys. It's easy to be non-responsive or vague with a text. If he calls them, it's easier to figure out what the deal is, whether its money, time, laziness, or something else. What is the absolute deadline for them to get sized? 


    For dates, give each person a deadline (the same as the RSVP date) to get you the name of their date. Check with the FILs about when they need hard numbers for the RD, but it would typically be later than your hard numbers for the wedding. If guests can't give you a name by then, say "I'm sorry, but I have to get final numbers to our caterer by tomorrow, if you haven't decided on a guest yet, we won't be able to accommodate him/her." If you start place cards and seating charts before your RSVP deadline, leave blanks for those that haven't responded yet. 
    Thanks for the feedback.This is going to sound crazy but one of the guys frequently does not have a phone! They ordinarily communicate via Facebook or FI sometimes tries to text him to see if he's picked up another phone. I think he switches from go phone to go phone? Who knows. He travels the world often, and so I think he leaves stuff at home. FI can definitely call the other two guys, though. 

    I'm pretty sure the end of next week or mid-following week is the latest the tux store can do. They said it's a fairly available tux but only up to a certain point.

    FIL's need numbers by the 26th of this month, which we've told everyone. Numbers for the wedding aren't due in until the 10th of June.

    Place cards are being done by a professional, so they have deadlines too! I'll find out more during my appointment next week.

    Thanks for all of your help!
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  • For the tuxes, have your FI actually call the guys. It's easy to be non-responsive or vague with a text. If he calls them, it's easier to figure out what the deal is, whether its money, time, laziness, or something else. What is the absolute deadline for them to get sized? 


    For dates, give each person a deadline (the same as the RSVP date) to get you the name of their date. Check with the FILs about when they need hard numbers for the RD, but it would typically be later than your hard numbers for the wedding. If guests can't give you a name by then, say "I'm sorry, but I have to get final numbers to our caterer by tomorrow, if you haven't decided on a guest yet, we won't be able to accommodate him/her." If you start place cards and seating charts before your RSVP deadline, leave blanks for those that haven't responded yet. 
    Thanks for the feedback.This is going to sound crazy but one of the guys frequently does not have a phone! They ordinarily communicate via Facebook or FI sometimes tries to text him to see if he's picked up another phone. I think he switches from go phone to go phone? Who knows. He travels the world often, and so I think he leaves stuff at home. FI can definitely call the other two guys, though. 

    I'm pretty sure the end of next week or mid-following week is the latest the tux store can do. They said it's a fairly available tux but only up to a certain point.

    FIL's need numbers by the 26th of this month, which we've told everyone. Numbers for the wedding aren't due in until the 10th of June.

    Place cards are being done by a professional, so they have deadlines too! I'll find out more during my appointment next week.

    Thanks for all of your help!
    Even if the place cards are being done by a professional, you can hand write a couple if you get their names the night before the wedding or whatever.  They won't match, but what can you do if you don't have the name?
  • adk19 said:

    For the tuxes, have your FI actually call the guys. It's easy to be non-responsive or vague with a text. If he calls them, it's easier to figure out what the deal is, whether its money, time, laziness, or something else. What is the absolute deadline for them to get sized? 


    For dates, give each person a deadline (the same as the RSVP date) to get you the name of their date. Check with the FILs about when they need hard numbers for the RD, but it would typically be later than your hard numbers for the wedding. If guests can't give you a name by then, say "I'm sorry, but I have to get final numbers to our caterer by tomorrow, if you haven't decided on a guest yet, we won't be able to accommodate him/her." If you start place cards and seating charts before your RSVP deadline, leave blanks for those that haven't responded yet. 
    Thanks for the feedback.This is going to sound crazy but one of the guys frequently does not have a phone! They ordinarily communicate via Facebook or FI sometimes tries to text him to see if he's picked up another phone. I think he switches from go phone to go phone? Who knows. He travels the world often, and so I think he leaves stuff at home. FI can definitely call the other two guys, though. 

    I'm pretty sure the end of next week or mid-following week is the latest the tux store can do. They said it's a fairly available tux but only up to a certain point.

    FIL's need numbers by the 26th of this month, which we've told everyone. Numbers for the wedding aren't due in until the 10th of June.

    Place cards are being done by a professional, so they have deadlines too! I'll find out more during my appointment next week.

    Thanks for all of your help!
    Even if the place cards are being done by a professional, you can hand write a couple if you get their names the night before the wedding or whatever.  They won't match, but what can you do if you don't have the name?
    Yeah, I suppose this would be better than not having names at all! I can ask for some extra cards from the vendor. 

    I'm more concerned about the RD and the guys not having tuxes, but I suppose if our WP members aren't able to tell us if they're bringing someone, we can't do much about that! I figured that with only thirty-something days before the wedding, they would know.

    Thanks :)
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  • adk19 said:

    For the tuxes, have your FI actually call the guys. It's easy to be non-responsive or vague with a text. If he calls them, it's easier to figure out what the deal is, whether its money, time, laziness, or something else. What is the absolute deadline for them to get sized? 


    For dates, give each person a deadline (the same as the RSVP date) to get you the name of their date. Check with the FILs about when they need hard numbers for the RD, but it would typically be later than your hard numbers for the wedding. If guests can't give you a name by then, say "I'm sorry, but I have to get final numbers to our caterer by tomorrow, if you haven't decided on a guest yet, we won't be able to accommodate him/her." If you start place cards and seating charts before your RSVP deadline, leave blanks for those that haven't responded yet. 
    Thanks for the feedback.This is going to sound crazy but one of the guys frequently does not have a phone! They ordinarily communicate via Facebook or FI sometimes tries to text him to see if he's picked up another phone. I think he switches from go phone to go phone? Who knows. He travels the world often, and so I think he leaves stuff at home. FI can definitely call the other two guys, though. 

    I'm pretty sure the end of next week or mid-following week is the latest the tux store can do. They said it's a fairly available tux but only up to a certain point.

    FIL's need numbers by the 26th of this month, which we've told everyone. Numbers for the wedding aren't due in until the 10th of June.

    Place cards are being done by a professional, so they have deadlines too! I'll find out more during my appointment next week.

    Thanks for all of your help!
    Even if the place cards are being done by a professional, you can hand write a couple if you get their names the night before the wedding or whatever.  They won't match, but what can you do if you don't have the name?
    Yeah, I suppose this would be better than not having names at all! I can ask for some extra cards from the vendor. 

    I'm more concerned about the RD and the guys not having tuxes, but I suppose if our WP members aren't able to tell us if they're bringing someone, we can't do much about that! I figured that with only thirty-something days before the wedding, they would know.

    Thanks :)
    I think you have to file these (at least the tux situation) away as "not my problem."  Either they have the tuxes or they don't.  If they don't, they'll have to figure out for themselves what to wear.  On the day of, you can either decide that you don't want to have them standing up with you because that was Their Only Job (to get their clothes), or you can let them stand up with you in the wrong clothes.  But not something to worry about at 30 days out.

    As far as the rehearsal dinner goes.  I think it would be okay to give them a Drop Dead Date as to the absolute latest they have to give you the names for the rehearsal dinner.  If you don't have a name, their date can't come to the rehearsal dinner.  Maybe you tell them your wedding numbers have a bit more leeway, so they can still bring a date to the wedding if you know by a later date, but the RD  is more strict.
  • Jen4948Jen4948 member
    First Anniversary First Answer First Comment 5 Love Its
    edited May 2015
    It sounds like you did everything right regarding the tuxes, but even then, some guys just aren't good about getting themselves fitted and making payments for them, just as some women aren't about bridesmaids' dresses. At this point there really isn't anything more you can do but hope they show up at your wedding on time, sober, in good spirits, appropriately dressed. If they don't, it means they've taken themselves out of the wedding party-which reflects on them, not on you.

    If you need a head count for your rehearsal dinner, you can give a final deadline and say that no additional guests for anyone can be accommodated after that deadline passes.
  • adk19 said:

    adk19 said:

    For the tuxes, have your FI actually call the guys. It's easy to be non-responsive or vague with a text. If he calls them, it's easier to figure out what the deal is, whether its money, time, laziness, or something else. What is the absolute deadline for them to get sized? 


    For dates, give each person a deadline (the same as the RSVP date) to get you the name of their date. Check with the FILs about when they need hard numbers for the RD, but it would typically be later than your hard numbers for the wedding. If guests can't give you a name by then, say "I'm sorry, but I have to get final numbers to our caterer by tomorrow, if you haven't decided on a guest yet, we won't be able to accommodate him/her." If you start place cards and seating charts before your RSVP deadline, leave blanks for those that haven't responded yet. 
    Thanks for the feedback.This is going to sound crazy but one of the guys frequently does not have a phone! They ordinarily communicate via Facebook or FI sometimes tries to text him to see if he's picked up another phone. I think he switches from go phone to go phone? Who knows. He travels the world often, and so I think he leaves stuff at home. FI can definitely call the other two guys, though. 

    I'm pretty sure the end of next week or mid-following week is the latest the tux store can do. They said it's a fairly available tux but only up to a certain point.

    FIL's need numbers by the 26th of this month, which we've told everyone. Numbers for the wedding aren't due in until the 10th of June.

    Place cards are being done by a professional, so they have deadlines too! I'll find out more during my appointment next week.

    Thanks for all of your help!
    Even if the place cards are being done by a professional, you can hand write a couple if you get their names the night before the wedding or whatever.  They won't match, but what can you do if you don't have the name?
    Yeah, I suppose this would be better than not having names at all! I can ask for some extra cards from the vendor. 

    I'm more concerned about the RD and the guys not having tuxes, but I suppose if our WP members aren't able to tell us if they're bringing someone, we can't do much about that! I figured that with only thirty-something days before the wedding, they would know.

    Thanks :)
    I think you have to file these (at least the tux situation) away as "not my problem."  Either they have the tuxes or they don't.  If they don't, they'll have to figure out for themselves what to wear.  On the day of, you can either decide that you don't want to have them standing up with you because that was Their Only Job (to get their clothes), or you can let them stand up with you in the wrong clothes.  But not something to worry about at 30 days out.

    As far as the rehearsal dinner goes.  I think it would be okay to give them a Drop Dead Date as to the absolute latest they have to give you the names for the rehearsal dinner.  If you don't have a name, their date can't come to the rehearsal dinner.  Maybe you tell them your wedding numbers have a bit more leeway, so they can still bring a date to the wedding if you know by a later date, but the RD  is more strict.
    Jen4948 said:

    It sounds like you did everything right regarding the tuxes, but even then, some guys just aren't good about getting themselves fitted and making payments for them, just as some women aren't about bridesmaids' dresses. At this point there really isn't anything more you can do but hope they show up at your wedding on time, sober, in good spirits, appropriately dressed. If they don't, it means they've taken themselves out of the wedding party-which reflects on them, not on you.

    If you need a head count for your rehearsal dinner, you can give a final deadline and say that no additional guests for anyone can be accommodated after that deadline passes.


    Thanks everyone! This is good advice and I am just trying to make sure that we are being as gracious as possible. We obviously don't want anyone to get upset and we don't want to be rude to anyone.

    We will take this advice to just let it go with the tuxes and give a deadline for the RD!
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  • novella1186novella1186 member
    First Anniversary First Comment First Answer 5 Love Its
    edited May 2015

    For the tuxes, have your FI actually call the guys. It's easy to be non-responsive or vague with a text. If he calls them, it's easier to figure out what the deal is, whether its money, time, laziness, or something else. What is the absolute deadline for them to get sized? 


    For dates, give each person a deadline (the same as the RSVP date) to get you the name of their date. Check with the FILs about when they need hard numbers for the RD, but it would typically be later than your hard numbers for the wedding. If guests can't give you a name by then, say "I'm sorry, but I have to get final numbers to our caterer by tomorrow, if you haven't decided on a guest yet, we won't be able to accommodate him/her." If you start place cards and seating charts before your RSVP deadline, leave blanks for those that haven't responded yet. 
    Thanks for the feedback.This is going to sound crazy but one of the guys frequently does not have a phone! They ordinarily communicate via Facebook or FI sometimes tries to text him to see if he's picked up another phone. I think he switches from go phone to go phone? Who knows. He travels the world often, and so I think he leaves stuff at home. FI can definitely call the other two guys, though. 

    I'm pretty sure the end of next week or mid-following week is the latest the tux store can do. They said it's a fairly available tux but only up to a certain point.

    FIL's need numbers by the 26th of this month, which we've told everyone. Numbers for the wedding aren't due in until the 10th of June.

    Place cards are being done by a professional, so they have deadlines too! I'll find out more during my appointment next week.

    Thanks for all of your help!
    Even if the place cards are being done by a professional, you can hand write a couple if you get their names the night before the wedding or whatever.  They won't match, but what can you do if you don't have the name?
    Yeah, I suppose this would be better than not having names at all! I can ask for some extra cards from the vendor. 

    I'm more concerned about the RD and the guys not having tuxes, but I suppose if our WP members aren't able to tell us if they're bringing someone, we can't do much about that! I figured that with only thirty-something days before the wedding, they would know.

    Thanks :)
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    FWIW, we let our WP pick their own stuff within some parameters; the guys had to have a gray suit (any gray suit, rented or bought, whatever) and the girls had to have a floor-length dress is some shade of pink. Three of the GMs procrastinated and never got back to H on whether or not they found a suit, but he just let it go since it wasn't his job to babysit/nag them, ya know? 2 of my BMs didn't have a dress yet, and again, I just let it go. 

    I figured if the BMs showed up the wedding day and STILL didn't have a dress, I would just let them walk down the aisle in whatever the hell clothes they had. And if any GMs showed up without a gray suit, it would be up to H whether or not he cared more about having everyone match or having everyone up there with him in whatever the hell clothes they had. 

    I'm glad we didn't worry about it, because everyone showed up with the right attire. They all picked awesome things and they all looked great. Some people just prefer to do things more last minute, but they still get it done. So no worries! They'll have the attire or they won't. So they can stand up there with you in the wrong attire, or they can sit with the guests. 

    I agree with giving the deadline for the RD. Just be honest. They may not even realize how important it is for you to turn in the final numbers. They may think of it as "well it's just one person. If they decide to come/not come at the last minute, no big deal." Give the deadline and then let that one go too. 
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  • Sounds like you are doing everything right. In H's family all the guys get together for an afternoon of golf and get fitted in the morning. It has become kind of tradition and a great way to ensure everyone is fitted.

    All you can to is give them the deadlines for everything. If they don't do their part of informing you then they don't get to bring a guest.
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