Orange Is The New Black (SPOILERS)

themosthappy91 · June 2015

Did we already have a thread on this and I missed it?

Anyway, I finished the new season last night and I have to say I was disappointed with this season. I felt like nothing happened and also like many of the characters became unrecognizable from the people they were in earlier seasons (which I guess is somewhat the point since prison changes people, but still). And I have to say I was super frustrated by the 15 minute swimming scene at the end.

Thoughts?

teddygirl9 · June 2015

I'm only half way through, but I've found it kind of boring.

sarawifenow · June 2015

I've only gotten 3 episodes in and I had to turn it off. It is SO boring!

BouxRadley · June 2015

I took a couple days off from watching it (I usually average an episode or two a night) and I can't bring myself to get back into it.

I'm about half way through and I'm already irritated. Not only are the people changing, the situations AREN'T. It's basically the exact same underlying plot throughout every season.

KnotAlwaysRight · June 2015

I found this season frustrating, too, I think because I wanted it to be as amazing as I know it can be, and… meh. I thought the best moments -- and there were moments I loved -- came out of Pennsatucky's storyline (and I just have a personal love of seeing hateful characters fleshed out and made sympathetic), and seeing Suzanne come into her own a little bit was nice. But other than that, I continue to not care AT ALL about Piper/Alex/new boring undeveloped hottie and wish they would all go away forever, and I was the most underwhelmed by how they handled Poussey's storyline. Especially after how great I thought her arc was in the last season, it felt so slapdash and incomplete.

The worst part is now I have to wait a year for it to redeem itself!

kvruns · June 2015

we are 1/2 way through too and not super impressed. Which sucks because we devoured the previous seasons and had been looking forward to this for a while. It just seems boring and like not much is happening, good to know I'm not missing anything from the second half of the season

kaos16 · June 2015

I think i'm about halfway through too. I do like the flashbacks and seeing where people came from. I'm a big Suzanne fan too, I root for her.

I am already over the storyline with Piper making plans to sell dirty panties to men on the outside. I don't know how it resolves yet, I just saw her big speech on the table in the yard and it's really beginning to annoy me.

VulgarGirl · June 2015

I've already watched the whole third season. I loved it. I've always been slightly annoyed by Piper. But Big Boo and Dogget (no idea how to spell) together were awesome. It was a kind of out of left field friendship that has worked. I cried during the first episode.

Pousey is also amazing and I felt like she got more screen time this season. The stuff with Sophie was great, heart breaking and difficult to watch and see but great at the same time. Because it was realistic. Or well as realistic as it could be considering everyone is locked up in the big house. And we got some insight on Chang! I want to know more about Chang!

Honestly, OITNB is a show featuring women of different colors and background and body sizes. Women who are queer, and women who are straight, and they show them working together. They have focuses in their lives other then "OMG like how do I land a man and plan my wedding!", not the best focuses but...focuses. I'm just pleased a show exists with openly queer charectors who are fleshed out and more than just being the resident queer.

Also..Ruby Motherfucking Rose.

themosthappy91 · June 2015

VulgarGirl said:
I've already watched the whole third season. I loved it. I've always been slightly annoyed by Piper. But Big Boo and Dogget (no idea how to spell) together were awesome. It was a kind of out of left field friendship that has worked. I cried during the first episode.

Pousey is also amazing and I felt like she got more screen time this season. The stuff with Sophie was great, heart breaking and difficult to watch and see but great at the same time. Because it was realistic. Or well as realistic as it could be considering everyone is locked up in the big house. And we got some insight on Chang! I want to know more about Chang!

Honestly, OITNB is a show featuring women of different colors and background and body sizes. Women who are queer, and women who are straight, and they show them working together. They have focuses in their lives other then "OMG like how do I land a man and plan my wedding!", not the best focuses but...focuses. I'm just pleased a show exists with openly queer charectors who are fleshed out and more than just being the resident queer.

Also..Ruby Motherfucking Rose.

I was so excited for Ruby Rose because she is hot as fuck, and then she was like... barely even a character. She wasn't even in half of the episodes and she basically had no discernible character other than just "other hot lesbian".

[Deleted User] · June 2015

I generally liked this season. After last season with a true "villain" in Vee, I think it is fine that this season didn't have as much forward momentum. I liked the focus on relationships this season. For those who have gone half way, I personally enjoyed the second half more.

I loved learning more about the women (and even Caputo). The themes on motherhood hit home for me as a mom. I liked seeing barriers breaking down between races and new friendships being formed. Especially Big Boo and Pensatucky.

This season also was dark, and emotional. It just had a different feel.

I think they could have developed Stella's character into more, she just kind of came out of left field and it was a little superficial.

Bennett leaving seemed out of character, if he isn't coming back I would have liked to see that done differently.

I loved seeing Red get back in the kitchen (and the dinner club). Really everyone except Piper and Alex were the best characters this season.

Generally I could do without:
Piper/Alex/Stella triangle
The corporate stuff
Cult of Norma (although Leanne's Amish back story was a surprise)
Doughnut guard. That was so gut-wrenching and did lend a lot to the plot but was hard to watch
Nicky going to max, I missed her energy in the rest of the season.

MyNameIsNot · June 2015

I actually liked the introduction of the for-profit prison model and all the bullshit that it entails. Yes, it's frustrating and involves way too much guard time, but it's real and a huge problem that no one really cares about.

I'm also really digging Boo and Pensatucky together. I think Pensatucky has the potential to do a lot in future seasons. She's a lot more complex than she seems.

Piper and the panties is so boring and stupid. I feel like the whole thing was just a set up so that Piper could be all "I'm the one who knocks."

badbnagdway · June 2015

The first part of the season didn't make a huge impression on me, but the second half I thought was better done. I agree that some story lines were undeveloped -- Poussey having a substance abuse problem, for example. That's an interesting story but I didn't think it was told that well.

I liked the swimming at the end, and the brief moment of escape for those prisoners. I especially liked that unbeknownst to them their lives are about to get a lot more crowded, as they are doubling the number of prisoners, which explains what Red noted, they are sending them double the amount of gross bagged food.

I mean, has anyone actually truly liked Piper? The thing that is boring about Piper is the thing that she says this season -- she's not very good at being alone. She's co-dependent, she needs people to be her mirror to know who she is.

I thought the Boo and Doggett storyline was excellent, and I loved that they became such good friends. It was heartbreaking to see that she spent her life mostly placing no value on herself.

"You say you're not the warden, but you're the fucking warden," come on, that was priceless.

redoryx · June 2015

MyNameIsNot said:

I actually liked the introduction of the for-profit prison model and all the bullshit that it entails. Yes, it's frustrating and involves way too much guard time, but it's real and a huge problem that no one really cares about.

I'm also really digging Boo and Pensatucky together. I think Pensatucky has the potential to do a lot in future seasons. She's a lot more complex than she seems.

Piper and the panties is so boring and stupid. I feel like the whole thing was just a set up so that Piper could be all "I'm the one who knocks."

This. I worked in a for-profit prison. The issues presented are very, very real. The funny thing is, I watched two episodes and was so bored I stopped for a week. Then I read something that mentioned the prison gets sold to a for-profit corporation and I decided to start watching again and binged the next 11 episodes in about 24 hours.

Also I absolutely loved the progression of Boo and Pennsatucky's friendship. The episode with Penn's backstory was so heartbreaking and Lea DeLaria and Taryn Manning were so fucking good in it.

doeydo · June 2015

I am surprised at everyone's reactions. I thought this season was intense, and I was surprised how much I have come to care for Doggett (she is still a racist and has issues, but she has changed a lot and I sympathize a lot with her). I hope Boo and Doggett become a couple eventually. Oh and the episode with the flashbacks through Boo's life? And then the one with Doggett's? Ugh, the emotions.

Nicky's episode was so sad, too, IMO.

I absolutely despise Healy, so I freaking hope he sticks with his wife instead of getting involved with Red anymore than he already has, and the ending, IMO, inclined that that would happen.

I was enraged at what happened to Sophia and hope that Caputo doesn't keep on following Fig's advice and she gets out and the other people get what's coming to them. If pretty much nothing happens to the women who ganged up on her then what is to stop them or others from doing it again? They should go to shoe or to max, IMO.
ETA it looks like Soso and Poussey are going to be together now. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I was still holding on to wanting Taystee to realise her feelings for her or something.

VulgarGirl · June 2015

doeydo said:

ETA it looks like Soso and Poussey are going to be together now. I'm not sure how I feel about that. I was still holding on to wanting Taystee to realise her feelings for her or something.

I love and adore the Taystee and Poussey friendship. And them together would be fucking adorable. But a gay girl/straight girl friendship so unheard of. Oh, gay dude/straight girl friendships are all over the fucking place. But if a straight girls friends a lezzie well we all know she's 3 shots of tequila away from ripping off her panties and discovering the joys of sapphic love.

So, as adorable as they are, I want them to stay just friends. I want people to see a lesbian woman be friends with a straight woman. Have a loving, affectionate friendship that is platonic. Cause for whatever fucking reason, we so rarely get to see that.

Though I'm not sure about Soso and Poussey either. Seems like they said "they're both lonely lets have them be together"...I dunno if it's really gonna work.

KnotAlwaysRight · June 2015

VulgarGirl said:

I love and adore the Taystee and Poussey friendship. And them together would be fucking adorable. But a gay girl/straight girl friendship so unheard of. Oh, gay dude/straight girl friendships are all over the fucking place. But if a straight girls friends a lezzie well we all know she's 3 shots of tequila away from ripping off her panties and discovering the joys of sapphic love.

So, as adorable as they are, I want them to stay just friends. I want people to see a lesbian woman be friends with a straight woman. Have a loving, affectionate friendship that is platonic. Cause for whatever fucking reason, we so rarely get to see that.

Though I'm not sure about Soso and Poussey either. Seems like they said "they're both lonely lets have them be together"...I dunno if it's really gonna work.

I wouldn't want Taystee and Poussey to get together either. Their friendship is so wonderful, and each character has been developed so well, that all of a sudden throwing them into a romantic relationship would take a lot of maneuvering, and I can't think of a way that it could be done in a way that was believable (in the sense of feeling true to the characters), let alone satisfying.

With Poussey and Soso, I kind of saw that evolution as Poussey having spent the season looking for meaning and centered on her own misery, and seeing someone more desperate and isolated than she was gave her a kind of way out of that. So not necessarily romantic at all.

Basically, I just want Poussey to be best friends with everybody, including me in real life.

VulgarGirl · June 2015

KnotAlwaysRight said:

Basically, I just want Poussey to be best friends with everybody, including me in real life.

Yes. A million percent yes.

MissKittyDanger · June 2015

I'm kinda loving the Suzanne and new girl relationship {does anyone know her name? I never caught it}

Also the kind of mother-daughter relationship Gloria and Marisol have. It's just sweet

Big Boo and Dogett - they are my new faves. I love the huge change of character Dogett has had. She's so much deeper than I anticipated. As an actress, she's great. I've seen her in quite a few movies {8 mile, crossroads ...} but I love her in OITNB

Side note: Uzo {Suzanne} sings opera! Go youtube her from i think The View ... she's amazingly talented! {and holy gorg!}

kvruns · June 2015

I still can't wrap my head around the Dogett change, I'm cool with it and like that we got to see her on a deeper level but the shift from crazy lady to someone making friends with Boo is like hmmm wait a minute didn't see that coming

peachy13 · June 2015

Finally finished season 3 yesterday. REALLY bummed with how everything played out. Incredibly choppy plot. All these new story lines and all seem to still have loose ends. I did enjoy the Suzanne's "novel" story line which was funny, but didn't like most of the other new story lines: new management at the prison/unionizing, panty biz and getting Cal and his wife involved (Cal is awesome, his wife is super annoying), Lorna and her suitors, Bennett leaving, the Norma cult, Stella, Nicky to max, yucky kitchen food, Lolly being crazy, Caputo/Fig affair, and especially the horrific Coates. Some characters I used to like I now dislike (esp. Alex and Piper, and Sophia and Gloria a little bit).

I think too I was so bothered by all these new story lines that didn't tie in together at all or wrap up by the end of the season because as I was waiting for a nice little ending to the season, all we got was the drawn out lake scene and the introduction of yet another story line: the arrival of about 20 new inmates!

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