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Helping a friend/family member get a job at your company

I did this once about 8 years ago, and I bet you can all guess how it ended. A girl I knew from college LOVED to network and would literally reach out to everyone she “knew” for favors. She got hold of me after graduation and asked me to help her out getting a job at my company at the time. I did, and she got the job, but then quit after a mere 3 months because she wanted to do more work than “get coffee and take meeting notes.” Yeah girl we’re 21 years old with a paying job, are you seriously complaining? I don't know how much I was an influence on her application, but it was still embarrassing for me. This person went from job to job over the course of the next few years, so when she approached me again about 5 years ago for a job at a different company I was working at (my current job) I said “I’d try” and then didn’t actually try. She may have found out about this because she stopped talking to me altogether after that. She’s still job hopping to this day, so I hardly feel guilty.

I’m always happy to help someone get a job (practice interviews, reviewing resumes, etc.) but I’m uncomfortable attaching my name to someone when they ask me to “put a good word in for them” at the company I work for.

A childhood/HS friend of mine recently reached out to me to let me know he applied for a position at my company and is hoping that I can help put a good word in for him. I really like this person but I know he too has been going from job to job in the last few years. Not that it’s a bad thing to try new jobs until you’re happy, but I don’t know if he’s like my old college acquaintance, quitting jobs left and right or worse, getting fired for unknown reasons… I literally have no idea what his work ethic is like. He won’t even really tell me what he’s looking to do which tells me he just wants a job, which tells me he could easily leave this job as soon as the next thing pops up. My job isn’t just a job to me, it’s a sweet career where I can do something I love as well as slack off and look at shark gifs on TK, and I don’t want to ruin my good rep by referring bad employees to the company.

WWTK do? Feel free to share similar stories because I’m bored and want to read stuff.

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Re: Helping a friend/family member get a job at your company

  • If you aren't sure about his work ethic or his qualifications or if he will even be a good fit then I wouldn't put a good word in for him.  

  • I will forward resumes but that's the end of it. As much as I love most of my friends, I would not want to work with most of them. I will help them get a leg up though in other areas. I work in HR and I will help people tweak their resumes and cover letters when needed. I'll also help them with interview tips.
  • I had a terrible experience with this, but it may have just been the person. I used to work in promotional modelling, and one of my friends (since like, grade 2) said she also does it but was looking for more companies (its contract work, small bits at a time). So I was like okay cool, heres who I work for, email these people. So she signed up for a bunch of shifts and was super excited, and then just didnt show up for any. My boss was like WTF to me, and I felt so bad I went to cover a bunch of her shifts =\ She's just a flaky person in general, and can't keep a story straight for her life, so its hard to believe anything she says. I cant remember her excuse for not showing up to like 2 weeks worth of work, but it was dumb.

     

    In your case, I probably wouldn't say anything, or if its a large enough company say you don't know that manager well enough to have any weight on the decision.

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  • Yikes, that is tough. I think the first step I would take would be to offer to review his resume. Then I'd ask him about the position he applied for, and (if it's not obvious), how he would apply his skills to it. I think that is a pretty fair conversation if he is expecting you to essentially recommend him to the people at your company. Hopefully, his answers will give you a bit of insight into his goals and let you see if he is truly serious about working there, or if it's just another job in a long line of jobs.
  • I agree I would forward his resume and that's about it. If someone at the company asked you about him, I would say you don't really know about how he is as an employee. 
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  • peachy13 said:

    I did this once about 8 years ago, and I bet you can all guess how it ended. A girl I knew from college LOVED to network and would literally reach out to everyone she “knew” for favors. She got hold of me after graduation and asked me to help her out getting a job at my company at the time. I did, and she got the job, but then quit after a mere 3 months because she wanted to do more work than “get coffee and take meeting notes.” Yeah girl we’re 21 years old with a paying job, are you seriously complaining? I don't know how much I was an influence on her application, but it was still embarrassing for me. This person went from job to job over the course of the next few years, so when she approached me again about 5 years ago for a job at a different company I was working at (my current job) I said “I’d try” and then didn’t actually try. She may have found out about this because she stopped talking to me altogether after that. She’s still job hopping to this day, so I hardly feel guilty.

    I’m always happy to help someone get a job (practice interviews, reviewing resumes, etc.) but I’m uncomfortable attaching my name to someone when they ask me to “put a good word in for them” at the company I work for.

    A childhood/HS friend of mine recently reached out to me to let me know he applied for a position at my company and is hoping that I can help put a good word in for him. I really like this person but I know he too has been going from job to job in the last few years. Not that it’s a bad thing to try new jobs until you’re happy, but I don’t know if he’s like my old college acquaintance, quitting jobs left and right or worse, getting fired for unknown reasons… I literally have no idea what his work ethic is like. He won’t even really tell me what he’s looking to do which tells me he just wants a job, which tells me he could easily leave this job as soon as the next thing pops up. My job isn’t just a job to me, it’s a sweet career where I can do something I love as well as slack off and look at shark gifs on TK, and I don’t want to ruin my good rep by referring bad employees to the company.

    WWTK do? Feel free to share similar stories because I’m bored and want to read stuff.

    Ditto Maggie.  I have no problem putting in a good word for someone I actually know does good work, like people I currently or recently work with.  But someone I haven't talked to since college?  Uh, no.  I'm even hesitant to "endorse" people on LinkedIn if I don't actually KNOW that they're good at whatever I'm endorsing.
  • Someone really has to be known as a reliable person for me to put my neck out for them.  I usually reply  with something like "I really have no power or influence over hiring.  Good luck!  I hope you get a call".  
  • I would only put my name on someone I can really vouch for.  That's definitely your personal brand at the company that could be impacted by a bad referral.

    I'd just say something like "Wish I could help, but not really involved in that process (or that you don't know the hiring manager).  The [recruiter/HR/manager etc] will reach out to you if you're a match for the role".

  • I have only ever told my employer that I know the person and forward a resume. I make it clear that I do not know anything about their work ethic or anything like that.
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  • I got burned twice by recommending someone.

    The first time was in HS for the sub shop I worked at.  I really thought my friend would do a good job.  Yeah, not so much.  My boss gave me shit for a while.

    The second time was at a company I worked at a few years ago.  It was for a sales position.  They kept trying to get a hold of him to make him an offer, but he just fell of the planet.  He finally calls them back, turns out he was out of town interviewing/accepting a job at another company and didn't bother to tell me or call my company back.  This was a small business and again, I ended up looking like an ass.  

    From that point on I vowed to never do it again.  I will be more than happy to submit your resume via our referral program (there's a nice little bonus involved) but that's all I will do.

     

  • Ugh, our company also has a referral program. I had a friend who needed a job, applied, and was hired. He quit before the three month mark, so I didn't even get the money. At least stay long enough to do me a solid once I stuck my neck out for you.

  • I have a few friends that I know from professional environments that I would be happy to recommend for a job. But it is only because I have worked with them before. Other friends, probably not.

    That said, I have been working for over 10 years and I feel like I know which friends I could trust to be good workers and which ones I couldn't. 
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  • It depends on the position and how well I know that person.  I am usually the go to person for helping with resume and cover letter construction. 

    OP - I can't believe that girl asked you again to put in a good word!  But I would have told her sorrynotsorry, I can't do that since the last time I assisted you, you left after 3 months.  I was very embarrassed that you did that after I stuck my neck out for you.  I would have not qualms about telling someone why I wouldn't recommend them for a job.

  • kvrunskvruns member
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    I will FW a resume or give a heads up that someone I know applied so maybe their app will be viewed but I am also clear I don't have experience with their work experience to make a recommendation one way or the other
  • fyrchkfyrchk member
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    People never fail to amaze me.

    If people ask me for help with a job, I will forward them our open positions and then they can take it from there. I'm not willing to do more than they are to get them a job.

  • I have friends who are in the medical field; some are surgical nurses and often inquired if I am hiring any nurses for my practice or for the surgeries. I had one former friend work with me when she was a medical assistant. That was a huge mistake; she assumed that she could chose whatever days and times to come in for her shifts. So I never hire within my circle for anybody. Only other time I did was when we were looking for another orthopedic partner for our practice. My roommate from college was the one I recommended and we've been partners since then. 

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